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Praying for the souls in purgatory not necessary
« Reply #60 on: May 07, 2015, 06:40:01 PM »
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  • Yes indeed.  Thank you Poche for these beautiful posts.   Much needed instruction on the Souls in Purgatory and how to pray for them and for ourselves  God bless you.   AMDG+
    "In His wisdom," says St. Gregory, "almighty God preferred rather to bring good out of evil than never allow evil to occur."

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    « Reply #61 on: May 07, 2015, 10:35:27 PM »
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  • For your practical resolutions, the following is suggested:

    Before going to Confession, going to Mass, and receiving Holy Communion, try to make sure the Liturgical Rite being used is Catholic, not the Protestant Memorial Supper Meal which is not a Catholic Rite of Mass because it does not have either the ontological or the metaphysical essence of the Mass Christ perfectly instituted and which, therefore, no one has the power to change.  Without these valid essences, there is no Mass, only a Protestant Meal on a Table.

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    « Reply #62 on: May 08, 2015, 10:39:25 PM »
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  • The Fifth Means: Asking God

    The Fifth Means of avoiding Purgatory is asking God for this Grace. Some wise Catholics have a really great, if simple secret, which is well worth learning and using for our own benefit.

    God promises us in the most solemn and deliberate way (and He cannot fail to do what He promises) that He will give us everything we ask in prayer, if it is good for us.

    Now two conditions, especially, make prayer infallible, namely perseverance and faith. God cannot refuse such a prayer.

    These Catholics we speak of pray expressly every day of their lives that God will free them from Purgatory. In every single prayer they say, in every Mass they hear, in every good act they perform, they have the express intention of asking God first of all and with all their hearts to deliver them from Purgatory and instead to take them straight to Heaven when they die.

    How? That is for God to decide.

    It is not easy to see how God can possibly refuse such constant, unceasing prayer. The fact that such prayers are said daily and many times in the day, for 20, 30, 50 years, shows that they are said with undoubting faith and magnificent perseverance.

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    « Reply #63 on: May 11, 2015, 10:23:13 PM »
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  • For your practical resolutions, the following is suggested:

    1)  Practice the above devotion of asking God that you may totally avoid Purgatory and be taken straight to Heaven when you die.

    2)  Every time you say the Hail Mary, say with all the fervor of your heart: “Pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen”

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    « Reply #64 on: May 12, 2015, 10:48:01 PM »
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  • A Sixth Means:
    Resignation to Death

    A Sixth Means of avoiding Purgatory is given to us by some great Saints who say that when a sick person becomes aware that he is dying and offers to God his death with perfect resignation, it is very likely that he will go straight to Heaven.

    Death is the awful punishment of sin, and when we accept it, as of course we ought to do, with submission and resignation, our act pleases God so much that it may satisfy perfectly for all our sins.

    The idea of Pope St. Pius X was the same when he granted a plenary indulgence at the hour of death to those who say at least after one Holy Communion the following prayer:

    "Eternal Father, from this day forward, I accept with a joyful and resigned heart the death it will please You to send me, with all its pains and sufferings."

    It will be better still to say this prayer after every Holy Communion we receive.

    It is for our best interest to accept God's will in everything that happens to us in life and in death.

    Nothing can be easier when we remember that God always wishes what is best for us. If we do what God does not will, we shall surely suffer.

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    « Reply #65 on: May 13, 2015, 01:59:40 AM »
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  • Quote from: poche
    A Sixth Means:
    Resignation to Death

    The idea of Pope St. Pius X was the same when he granted a plenary indulgence at the hour of death to those who say at least after one Holy Communion the following prayer:

    "Eternal Father, from this day forward, I accept with a joyful and resigned heart the death it will please You to send me, with all its pains and sufferings."

    It will be better still to say this prayer after every Holy Communion we receive.

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    This. Will try to remember this prayer.
    "Recent reforms have amply demonstrated that fresh changes in the liturgy could lead to nothing but complete bewilderment on the part of the faithful" Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani

    "Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Bishop

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    « Reply #66 on: May 13, 2015, 10:58:12 PM »
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  • For your practical resolutions, the following is suggested:

    1) Recite this prayer after Holy Communion:

    “Eternal Father, from this day forward, I accept with a joyful and resigned heart the death it will please You to send me, with all its pains and sufferings.”

    2) Here are several other prayers for your consideration:

    Act of Accepting One's Own Death from the Hands of God

    O Most Holy Trinity, with a sincere spirit of love of Thee and with a contrite heart, I accept calmly and gladly from Thy hands whatsoever manner of death it may please Thee to send me, together with all of its pain, anguish and suffering.  Amen.

    Act of Perfect Resignation

    O Lord, my God, from this moment I do accept from Thy hands, with a quiet and trusting heart, whatsoever death Thou shalt choose to send me, with all of its pains and griefs.  Help me to accept death itself patiently, in satisfaction for the punishments due to my sins.  Amen.

    An Offering of the Most Precious Blood

    Eternal Father, I offer Thee the Most Precious Blood of Jesus Christ in atonement for all of my sins, faults and imperfections and in supplication for the Holy Souls in Purgatory and for the needs of the Catholic Church.  Amen.

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    « Reply #67 on: May 14, 2015, 11:11:29 PM »
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  • Prayer for Final Perseverance and a Happy Death

    O Supreme and Eternal God, I thank Thee for creating me, redeeming me by Jesus Christ, making me a member of the Mystical Body of Christ and having waited for my repentance after so many sins.

    O Infinite bounty, I love Thee above all things, and I repent with all of my heart for ever having offended Thee.  I have confidence that Thou hast already pardoned me, but being always in danger of again falling into sin, I beg of Thee, for the love of Jesus Christ, to grant me holy perseverance until death.  Amen.

    Help me, O Lord, for Thou knowest my weakness and suffer me not again to be separated from Thee.  May I die a thousand times rather than again have the misfortune of losing Thy grace by Mortal Sin.  Holy Mary, my Mother, obtain for me the grace of a holy and final perseverance and the Grace of a happy death in thy arms.  Amen.

    Prayers to Our Lord Jesus Christ
    To Obtain the Grace of a Good Death

    O Jesus, Lord, God of goodness and Father of eternal mercies!  I humbly present myself before Thee with a contrite and humble heart, and I commend to Thee my last hour and what shall await me after it.

    When my feet begin to become motionless, thus warning me that my end is near; then, Merciful Jesus, have pity on me.

    When my hands begin to lose the sense of touch and, trembling, can no longer hold the Crucifix, letting it fall, to my grief, on my bed of pain; then, Merciful Jesus, have pity on me.

    When my eyes, already blinded and making contortions for horror at death so near, fix in Thee their languid and dying looks; then, Merciful Jesus, have pity on me.

    When my lips, cold and convulsive, pronounce for the last time Thy Holy and Adorable Name:  JESUS; then, Merciful Jesus, have pity on me.

    When my face, pale and livid, causes pity and terror to those around me; and my hair, bathed with the sweat of death, becomes stiff, announcing that my end is near; then, Merciful Jesus, have pity on me.

    When my ears, shut forever to the things of this world will hear the final sentence of my eternal destiny; then, Merciful Jesus, have pity on me.

    When my imagination, troubled by horrible and frightful visions, becomes submersed in mortal anguish and when my spirit, troubled with the fear of Thy Justice at the remembrance of my iniquities, is struggling against the infernal enemy, the Devil, who will want to deprive me of hoping in Thy mercies and precipitate me in the horrors of despair; then, Merciful Jesus, have pity on me.

    When my heart, weak and oppressed by the pains of sickness, shall be overtaken by the fear of death, fatigued and wearied by the efforts it has made against the enemies of my salvation; then, Merciful Jesus, have pity on me.

    When I will shed my last tears, a sign of my approaching death, O Lord! receive them as a sacrifice of expiation so that I may die a victim of penance; then, Merciful Jesus, have pity on me.

    When my family, relatives and friends, standing around my bed, become terrified at seeing me in such a state and invoke Thy aid; then, Merciful Jesus, have pity on me.

    When, having lost the use of my senses, and the world is vanishing from my sight, I groan under the anguish of my last agony and the affliction of death; then, Merciful Jesus, have pity on me.

    When the last groans of my heart force my soul to leave my body, accept them, O Lord, as effects of a holy impatience to unite myself to Thee; then, Merciful Jesus, have pity on me.

    When my departing soul goes forever from this world and leaves my body pale, cold, and lifeless, accept this as an act of homage which I render to Thy Divine Majesty; then, Merciful Jesus, have pity on me.

    Finally, when my soul comes before Thee and beholds for the time the splendor of Thy Majesty, do not cast it away from Thy presence; but rather deign to receive it into the bosom of Thy mercy, that I may eternally sing Thy Praises; then, Merciful Jesus, have pity on me.

    O God, Who has condemned all to die, but has hidden the day and the hour, grant that I, passing all the days of my life in justice and holiness, may be able to merit to leave this world in Thy holy love.  Through the merits of our Lord Jesus Christ may I live and reign with Thee, in the unity of the Holy Ghost.  Amen.


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    « Reply #68 on: May 15, 2015, 11:48:48 PM »
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  • The Seventh Means: Extreme Unction

    The Seventh Means of avoiding Purgatory is Extreme Unction: God Himself has given us a Sacrament, the end of which is to take us directly to Heaven. This Sacrament is Extreme Unction, which according to Saint Thomas and Saint Albert was instituted especially to obtain for us the grace of a holy and happy death and to prepare us for immediate entrance into Heaven.

    Many Catholics do not understand this most consoling doctrine, and because they do not understand it, they prepare themselves insufficiently for the reception of Extreme Unction and so lose many of its great graces.

    Every Sacrament properly received produces its effect. Baptism cleanses us from Original Sin and any other actual sins that may have been committed by adults before receiving the Sacrament.

    The Sacrament of Holy Orders gives a priest all his tremendous powers. Matrimony makes man and woman husband and wife. In the same way Extreme Unction, if devoutly received, prepares the dying Catholic for immediate entrance into Heaven, thus delivering him from Purgatory.

    How foolish it is, therefore, to put off receiving this Sacrament until very late, when the dying person is too exhausted to receive it with full knowledge of what he is doing and with due fervor and devotion. The moment of death is the supreme moment in our lives. It is the moment which decides our fate for all Eternity.

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    « Reply #69 on: May 16, 2015, 11:43:32 PM »
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  • For your practical resolutions, the following is suggested:

    Advise your family members that when you are dying to call a Priest to give you the Last Rites which include the Sacrament of Extreme Unction and not to wait until you are unconscious or unable to converse with the Priest.  The sooner a Priest is called, the better.


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    Praying for the souls in purgatory not necessary
    « Reply #70 on: May 16, 2015, 11:52:12 PM »
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    For your practical resolutions, the following is suggested:

    Advise your family members that when you are dying to call a Priest to give you the Last Rites which include the Sacrament of Extreme Unction and not to wait until you are unconscious or unable to converse with the Priest.  The sooner a Priest is called, the better.


    http://www.shrineofsaintjude.net/home1606.html#8.

    They don't do Extreme Unction anymore. Now they do anointing of the sick. Unless of course your priest is a traditionalist.

    And I don't know how often it happens, but my old Novus Ordo priest does not hear deathbed confessions. He just anoints the people with oil and gives them communion (leaving them in a state of mortal sin and damning them if they happen to die).
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    « Reply #71 on: May 18, 2015, 10:42:43 PM »
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  • Indulgences and Purgatory

    God in His infinite mercy and compassion offers us a most wonderful and easy means for lessening or cancelling our Purgatory.

    Fully aware of our weakness, and knowing, too, how fearful many are of penance, He opens wide the treasury of His Goodness and offers us most abundant Indulgences in exchange for some small act of devotion.

    For one recitation of short ejaculatory prayers, He grants 100 or 300 or more days Indulgence. These we may say hundreds of times in the day. Those who say the little ejaculation: "Sacred Heart of Jesus, I place my trust in Thee" one hundred times a day gain 30,000 days Indulgence. Those who say it 1,000 times, as many do, gain 300,000 days Indulgence each day!

    Nothing can be easier than to acquire the habit of saying this little prayer all day long, countless times each day.

    Then, for each Hail Mary of the Rosary, one gains more than 2,000 days Indulgence!

    Besides an immense number of Partial Indulgences, there are very many Plenary (full, complete) Indulgences which may be gained during life and at the hour of death.

    These are specially given by the Church to enable us to avoid Purgatory.

    These Indulgences can be applied to our own souls, and we shall thus directly make satisfaction for our sins. Or, we may apply them to the souls in Purgatory, who will see to it that we do not lose by our generosity.

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    « Reply #72 on: May 18, 2015, 10:47:13 PM »
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    Then, for each Hail Mary of the Rosary, one gains more than 2,000 days Indulgence!


    Remember though that often when one attempts to gain an indulgence it is not successful. To gain an indulgence one needs to have the proper dispositions. One has to be in a state of grace and also be free from any attachment to sin, even venial sin. And for some indulgences there are other conditions also.
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    « Reply #73 on: May 19, 2015, 04:16:05 AM »
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    Then, for each Hail Mary of the Rosary, one gains more than 2,000 days Indulgence!


    Remember though that often when one attempts to gain an indulgence it is not successful. To gain an indulgence one needs to have the proper dispositions. One has to be in a state of grace and also be free from any attachment to sin, even venial sin. And for some indulgences there are other conditions also.

    That doesn't mean that we should give up trying. One of the children told me that he shot 12 baskets in honor of his late uncle. I told him that he could help his uncle a lot better if he would offer twelve worthy communions for him.

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    « Reply #74 on: May 19, 2015, 10:29:41 PM »
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  • Indulgences Come from the Spiritual Treasury

    For your practical resolutions, the following is suggested:

    1)  Gain all the Plenary Indulgences possible, but at least partial indulgences, and apply all of them to the Poor, Suffering Souls in Purgatory.

    2)  Indulgences for the Act of Accepting One's Own Death from the Hands of God

    The Faithful who at any moment of their lives, from a sincere spirit of love of God and with at least a contrite heart, express their intention of accepting calmly and gladly from the hands of God whatsoever manner of death it may please Him to send them, together with all of its pain, anguish and suffering, may gain the following Indulgences:  One Plenary Indulgence for themselves each time they recite it (not to exceed one per day).  In addition, One Plenary Indulgence for themselves at the hour of death if they have devoutly made this Act at least once during their lifetime under the following 3 conditions.

    Requirements to gain the Plenary Indulgence:

    1) be in the State of Grace (no mortal sins on soul;

    2) make this act devoutly and, or recite a prayer which expresses this act; and, 3) have the intention of gaining these indulgences.

    3) Prayerfully consider making the Heroic Act of Charity for the Poor Souls.

    The Heroic Act of Charity
    For the Poor, Suffering Souls in Purgatory

    O Holy and Adorable Trinity, desiring to co-operate in the deliverance of the Souls in Purgatory and to testify my devotion to the Blessed Mary, ever-Virgin, I cede and renounce on behalf of those Holy Souls all of the satisfactory part of my works, and all of the suffrages which may be given to me after my death, consigning them entirely into the hands of the Most Blessed Virgin Mary, that she may apply them according to her good pleasure to those souls of the Faithful Departed whom she desires to deliver from their sufferings.  Deign, O my God, to accept and to bless this offering which I make to Thee at this moment.  Amen.

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