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Offline Stubborn

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Re: Prayers for Jewish people who were attacked
« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2019, 04:55:28 AM »
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  • Poche, a Jewish sin-agog is the about last place on earth you ever want to be caught dead in.

    For 2000 years the Jews have echoed Satan, saying to God in His face: "We will not serve you!" They know the Catholic Church to be the true Church, just the same as they found out but denied that it was God that they crucified.

    Now, concerning those Jews who were unjustly murdered, there is only one thing that we can be absolutely certain of, that is that God's Justice has most assuredly been served to those poor souls.
    For a small gain they travel far; for eternal life many will scarcely lift a foot from the ground. - Thomas A Kempis

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    Re: Prayers for Jewish people who were attacked
    « Reply #46 on: May 10, 2019, 10:22:38 PM »
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  • ByzCat,
    What I quoted above is from Unitatis Redintegratio


    Yes, "serious" theologians actually believe this. It's in official Church documents. This document states that God is using heretical and schismatic congregations as means of salvation. Also, stating these assemblies experience a life of grace.

    We know with absolute certitude that in order to be saved you must:
    1) Profess the Catholic Faith whole and entire
    2) Die inside the Church
    3) Die in a state of grace

    Any other speculation is just that, speculation.
    Hmmmmmm, where is the dogmatic definition for point #1?  Point #1 seems like a more explicit statement even then "Outside the Church there is no salvation."

    What do you think of the quotation Poche presents from the Baltimore Catechism?


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    Re: Prayers for Jewish people who were attacked
    « Reply #47 on: May 10, 2019, 11:58:33 PM »
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  • To a point.  Violence perpetrated by individuals without authority should be condemned, but if the state were to impose harsh penalties against various "groups" of people defined by immortal, deviant, heretical, subversive, or otherwise depraved principles, then there's no issue.
    You realize that you are writing in contradiction to Pope St Pius X.

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    Re: Prayers for Jewish people who were attacked
    « Reply #48 on: May 11, 2019, 12:07:00 AM »
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  • Athanasian Creed

    Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. 

    Pope Benedict XV (1914–1922), Encyclical Ad Beatissimi Apostolorum: "Such is the nature of the Catholic faith that it does not admit of more or less, but must be held as a whole, or as a whole rejected: This is the Catholic faith, which unless a man believe faithfully and firmly, he cannot be saved."
    Humble thy spirit very much: for the vengeance on the flesh of the ungodly is fire and worms. - Ecclesiasticus 7:18

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    Re: Prayers for Jewish people who were attacked
    « Reply #49 on: May 11, 2019, 12:10:58 AM »
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  • Athanasian Creed

    Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly.

    Pope Benedict XV (1914–1922), Encyclical Ad Beatissimi Apostolorum: "Such is the nature of the Catholic faith that it does not admit of more or less, but must be held as a whole, or as a whole rejected: This is the Catholic faith, which unless a man believe faithfully and firmly, he cannot be saved."
    Amen.


     

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