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Offline Neil Obstat

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Re: Prayer with non-Catholics
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2018, 07:28:22 PM »
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    Quote from: graceseeker on Today at 02:21:12 PM
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    I don't know if I agree but maybe this is a good advice for particularly "Churches"?
    I don't think all NO masses apply (to your comments)
    I have felt the Holy Spirit at work in me at a lot of NO masses, even the one where I dislike the priest and think he is (was?) a heretic. I don't know if he has repented or not but... anyway..
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    Whether we feel the Holy Ghost or not doesn’t really matter. The Holy Ghost isn’t a feeling, He is a person, the Third Person of the Blessed Trinity.
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    It is a Protestant concept that one should have physical sensation from the influence of the Holy Ghost.
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    It's one of their heresies where they say unless you can "feel" it, it's not real. So that's why they say the Catholic Church isn't the real faith since when we receive Confirmation we don't feel the grace.
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    But it's Catholic teaching, and always has been, that no feeling should be expected at Confirmation. The same applies to Baptism, Confession, Holy Communion, Holy Orders, Matrimony and Extreme Unction. None of the Sacraments impart a "feeling" that is sensible to us.
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    Now what's going on is since Vat.II the Novus Ordo has become Protestantized and that's why Novus Ordo parishes are spreading this error that sensation accompanies grace. That's just a lie, being promoted to make the Protestants feel comfortable.  Next, they'll be welcome to Holy Communion, and Catholics won't have a priest but they'll say it doesn't matter, and so on.
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    Re: Prayer with non-Catholics
    « Reply #16 on: January 12, 2018, 08:18:24 PM »
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    Whether we feel the Holy Ghost or not doesn’t really matter. The Holy Ghost isn’t a feeling, He is a person, the Third Person of the Blessed Trinity.

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    It is a Protestant concept that one should have physical sensation from the influence of the Holy Ghost.
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    It's one of their heresies where they say unless you can "feel" it, it's not real. So that's why they say the Catholic Church isn't the real faith since when we receive Confirmation we don't feel the grace.
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    But it's Catholic teaching, and always has been, that no feeling should be expected at Confirmation. The same applies to Baptism, Confession, Holy Communion, Holy Orders, Matrimony and Extreme Unction. None of the Sacraments impart a "feeling" that is sensible to us.
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    Now what's going on is since Vat.II the Novus Ordo has become Protestantized and that's why Novus Ordo parishes are spreading this error that sensation accompanies grace. That's just a lie, being promoted to make the Protestants feel comfortable.  Next, they'll be welcome to Holy Communion, and Catholics won't have a priest but they'll say it doesn't matter, and so on.
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    Exactly! Our feelings are like the wind. Feelings change so rapidly that they can be impossible to follow. Between my own relatives and in laws who buy into the “emotional religious experience” baloney, whenever I hear in trad circles that feelings equate to infallible truth it drives me batty. The Holy Ghost is a person of the Blessed Trinity, not an emotion. It’s also Francis-speak. If you “feel” with your individual conscience that you are just “a-ok” with God while living in mortal sin, it’s all just good. 
    Please disregard everything I have said; I have tended to speak before fact checking.


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    Re: Prayer with non-Catholics
    « Reply #17 on: January 13, 2018, 01:23:51 AM »
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  • We can't rely on "feelings". We mortals can't know for certain if they are actually consolations from God, or if they are the result of our own emotions, or even possibly imposed upon us by demons who wish to deceive us. The whole "feelings" thing is the result of Protestant cooties that have infected the NO.