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Re: Pope Pius XI murdered ?
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2019, 01:11:27 PM »
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  • Pius X , had a committee set up for the edit codex change, but Pope X did not work out the codex himself.

    Well, I agree with your view, that Catholics must be armed with instruction on the Church's enemies.

    I had heard Card. Rampolla actually destroyed many Church documents on the jews. That would help explain the loss of knowledge.

    Not that I trust jew-Wiki, but a quick search shows he lived for 10 years after the Conclave and
    was a Vatican Archivist/Librarian, giving him access to such documents.  
    Later years

    Cardinal Rampolla at age 70 shortly before his death

    Pius X chose Rafael Merry del Val to succeed Rampolla as Secretary of State. Rampolla remained Arch-Priest of Saint Peter's[7] Between 1908 and his death in 1913, Rampolla served as Secretary (then the head) of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. In 1912, Pope Pius X appointed Rampolla Archivist and Librarian of the Holy Roman Church as well, a position he held until his death. He continued to be viewed as a likely successor to Pope Pius X in case of the pontiff's death.

    Rampolla died suddenly in Rome on 16 December 1913 at age seventy, some months before the pope died in August 1914.[9] He was buried in the Campo Verano Cemetery near the Basilica of San Lorenzo fuori le Mura. His friend and closest collaborator, Giacomo della Chiesa, the future Pope Benedict XV, presided over his funeral ceremonies. On 19 June 1929, twelve days after the Italian Parliament ratified the Lateran Treaty, the body.

    This requires more research... and I'm sure Roscoe will want to volunteer to do it :jester:

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Pope Pius XI murdered ?
    « Reply #16 on: June 11, 2019, 02:05:41 PM »
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  • From what I have heard that every pope from Pius XI to JPI was murdered. JPII was the first one not murdered.

    Generally the doctors send them off with a shot of some kind. All for his health of course. "Here this won't hurt at all." The P2 lodge is very powerful inside the Vatican state.

    Rampolla was said to have brought the lodge into the Vatican.


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    Re: Pope Pius XI murdered ?
    « Reply #17 on: June 11, 2019, 02:51:17 PM »
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  • i hope no one is dumb enough to believe the Card Rampolla OTO libel... :pray:

    Incredulous- where exactly  did you "hear' that Rampolla 'destroyed many Church documents on Joos?

    King W-- where exactly did you learn that " Rampolla was said to have brought the lodge into the Vatican?
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    Re: Pope Pius XI murdered ?
    « Reply #18 on: June 12, 2019, 01:42:04 PM »
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  • i hope no one is dumb enough to believe the Card Rampolla OTO libel... :pray:

    Incredulous- where exactly  did you "hear' that Rampolla 'destroyed many Church documents on Joos?

    King W-- where exactly did you learn that " Rampolla was said to have brought the lodge into the Vatican?

    Roscoe,

    "How do we know?  Where did we hear?  How did we learn?"


    Here is the "game plan" for judeo-masonic infiltration.



    The Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita is a document, originally published in Italian in 1859,
    produced by the highest lodge of the Italian Carbonari and written by "Piccolo Tigre".
    According to George F. Dillon, it was the pseudonym of a Jewish Freemason


    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Pope Pius XI murdered ?
    « Reply #19 on: June 12, 2019, 11:12:35 PM »
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  • Roscoe,

    Here's a link on Padre Pio, with some pretty hairy information on Card. Rampolla.

    Padre Pio's missing body
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Pope Pius XI murdered ?
    « Reply #20 on: June 13, 2019, 11:40:58 AM »
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  • I trust Pope St Pius X, Pope Leo XIII, Card Merry Del Val, Card De Lai etc( all of whom you apparently think are idiots or worse)  for the truth b4 I trust You, Vennari or ANYONE ELSE. :cheers:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    Re: Pope Pius XI murdered ?
    « Reply #21 on: June 13, 2019, 12:07:09 PM »
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  • This is very intriguing. 

    And I find it very plausible that Pius XI could have been murdered so as not to deliver that speech.

    Incredulous, who keeps down-voting you and why?

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    Re: Pope Pius XI murdered ?
    « Reply #22 on: June 13, 2019, 02:45:50 PM »
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  • It should also be noted that there is no mention of Card Rampolla in Alta Vendita. And if there was i wouldn't believe it... :sleep:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'


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    Re: Pope Pius XI murdered ?
    « Reply #23 on: June 13, 2019, 05:02:43 PM »
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  • Cardinal Rampolla was vetoed as pope by Emperor Franz Joseph.  Red flag no 1.
    Cardinal Rampolla was removed from the Curia during St Pius X's pontificate.  Red flag no 2.
    Cardinal Rampolla was thought to be a freemason or have strong connections, if he wasn't specifically a member.  Red flag no 3. 
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    See this thread:
    https://www.cathinfo.com/the-library/cardinal-rampolla-was-a-freemason-by-the-abbe-francesco-ricossa/
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    Cardinal Gasparri was a disciple of Rampolla.  Red flag no 1.
    Cardinal Gasparri made false accuasations against St Pius X regarding the "Sodalitum Pianum" (organization used to identify modernists).  Red flag no 2.
    I'm sure there's more, but I don't care enough to research.
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    The bottomline is that St Pius X did as much as any man, any SINGLE man, could do to stop modernism/communism.  But often he acted alone.  As he famously said:
    "De gentibus non est vir mecum"  -Among all men that surround me there is no one with me.
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    Let's not imagine that the decade before Fatima in the early 1900s was some mecca of sanctity in rome.  Only a few years earlier, Pope Pius IX was imprisoned and almost killed in the Vatican.  And St Pius X warned that as soon as he died, if there was not vigilance, that modernism would return stronger than ever.  This happened shortly after he died, as he predicted.  Italy has been run by freemasons for over a 150 years.  The Vatican is not immune from such evil influences.  It's a miracle that St Pius X got elected to begin with.

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    Re: Pope Pius XI murdered ?
    « Reply #24 on: June 13, 2019, 05:45:21 PM »
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  • Sorry but it is Franz- Joseph( no friend of martyred Franz- Ferdinand) that is FMason-- not Rampolla

    Rampolla was not removed from Curia by Pius X-- not true

    Pius IX would have ex-communicated F-Joseph but for political reasons similar to why Pius XII didn't ex-communicate  Hitler( who claimed to be Catholic)

    :cheers:
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    Re: Pope Pius XI murdered ?
    « Reply #25 on: June 13, 2019, 11:42:12 PM »
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    Sorry but it is Franz- Joseph( no friend of martyred Franz- Ferdinand) that is FMason-- not Rampolla
    Ok, let me get this straight...You say that Emperor Franz Joseph was a freemason and that a freemason stopped Rampolla from being pope so that the future St Pius X would become pope, who was one of freemason's worst enemies?  A freemason helped a rabid anti-freemason cardinal become pope?  That makes absolutely no sense, either historically or rationally.


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    Re: Pope Pius XI murdered ?
    « Reply #26 on: June 13, 2019, 11:49:57 PM »
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  • Sorry but it is Franz- Joseph( no friend of martyred Franz- Ferdinand) that is FMason-- not Rampolla

    Rampolla was not removed from Curia by Pius X-- not true

    Pius IX would have ex-communicated F-Joseph but for political reasons similar to why Pius XII didn't ex-communicate  Hitler( who claimed to be Catholic)

    :cheers:


    I think the "beer-cheers" emoji means we've overwhelmed him and he wants a truce :cowboy:

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Pope Pius XI murdered ?
    « Reply #27 on: June 14, 2019, 12:06:39 AM »
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  • I vote that that the Maria Juanita emoticon be restored to the Forum along w/ the Wine :cheers:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
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    Re: Pope Pius XI murdered ?
    « Reply #28 on: June 16, 2019, 04:06:42 AM »
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  • I've read that Pope Pius X counted Jews as some of his best friends. The Herzl meeting is often used as evidence of Pope Pius X's very Catholic attitude toward Jewry.

    The mistress of Mussolini Incredulous references is not Margherita Sarfatti, another of Mussolini's mistresses.

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    Margherita Sarfatti was born Margherita Grassini, in Venice, the daughter of Amedeo Grassini and Emma Levi. Amedeo was a wealthy Jewish lawyer and businessman. He was a fiscal attorney for the Venetian government and a close friend of Giuseppe Melchiorre Sarto, later Pope Pius X. He would later be made a Knight of the Order of the Crown of Italy.[2]
    --https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margherita_Sarfatti

    I prefer that a canonized pope had had zero Jewish friends.

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    Re: Pope Pius XI murdered ?
    « Reply #29 on: June 16, 2019, 04:43:25 AM »
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  • I've read that Pope Pius X counted Jews as some of his best friends. The Herzl meeting is often used as evidence of Pope Pius X's very Catholic attitude toward Jewry.

    The mistress of Mussolini Incredulous references is not Margherita Sarfatti, another of Mussolini's mistresses.
    --https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margherita_Sarfatti

    I prefer that a canonized pope had had zero Jewish friends.
    Just because Wikipedia published it doesn’t make it true. The reference is to an article in the Jewish Woman’s Archive which, in turn, doesn’t seem to have a reference. I doubt they were that “close”, but I’m sure he tried to convert him.

     

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