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Online Viva Cristo Rey

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Re: Pope Francis tells gαy man "God made you like this"
« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2018, 06:45:34 AM »
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    • Jesus says " go and sin no more" because He loves His people.    

    Only the devil makes people into sodomites and sinners.  

    It's not "ok to be gαy".  God loves the sinner but hates the sin.  

    Thanks to Obama and Pope Francis for promoting gαy agenda and worship of false gods. 



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    Offline josefamenendez

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    Re: Pope Francis tells gαy man "God made you like this"
    « Reply #31 on: May 22, 2018, 07:18:56 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche on May 22, 2018, 01:44:45 AM
    What if the Holy Father were to say to the Downs Syndrome child, "it's ok to have downs syndrome. God still loves you." Or maybe to teh autistic child "its ok, God still loves you."
    On the contrary, these examples of "disabilities" you mention open the person up  to becoming a saint! They may never have the capacity for personal sin. The "disability" of the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, acted upon , is always a grave sin. Would God create people genetically/hard wired whose only sɛҳuąƖ expression in any capacity  is grave sin? You might say that all of these people are called to continence and their self- control would warrant them the same sainthood, but ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, from what I can tell is a wanton , polygamous unatural disposition, beyond any normal sɛҳuąƖ urges. That doesn't sound like God would create that, maybe allow it because of the sins of the world.But does God still love them? Of course.
    The exorcists say ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is a form of demon possession. ( Asmodeus?)
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    Re: Pope Francis tells gαy man "God made you like this"
    « Reply #32 on: May 22, 2018, 07:28:07 AM »
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    • Anyone who argues that God creates people gαy( or even hints at it) is out of their mind. Why would God repeatedly condemn something in His Word, and then inflict his creation with it? 
    Good article from Dr. Thomas Fleming on this
    https://fleming.foundation/2018/05/ransom-notes-may-21-the-popes-theology-of-evil/
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    Re: Pope Francis tells gαy man "God made you like this"
    « Reply #33 on: May 22, 2018, 08:18:25 AM »
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    • Quote from: TheJovialInquisitor on May 21, 2018, 03:06:04 PM
    ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and the like, however, are the ones that give into them completely.

    Again, you're failing to distinguish between the inclination and acting upon that inclination.  I've heard stories of men who had these urges but did not accept them and were trying to fight them.  Of course, that's not what Bergoglio has in mind here.
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    Re: Pope Francis tells gαy man "God made you like this"
    « Reply #34 on: May 22, 2018, 08:21:52 AM »
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    • Quote from: Capt McQuigg on May 21, 2018, 04:13:27 PM
    Do we have evidence that Pope Francis actually said this?

    This has become Francis' modus operandi.  He leaks stuff that he wants to get out through third parties, but he keeps a bit of distance for the purposes of plausible deniability.  No one can prove that he actually said this.  In public, he'll have no comment and will neither confirm nor deny that he said it.  That's because he wants people to know that he said it without his enemies being able to attack him for it due to lack of proof.
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    Re: Pope Francis tells gαy man "God made you like this"
    « Reply #35 on: May 22, 2018, 08:25:36 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche on May 22, 2018, 01:48:35 AM
    He said it's ok to be gαy. He didn't say it's ok to go out and commit all kinds of abominations. God loves all of us. If He didn't love this person then he would cease to exist. All of us have crosses to carry. In the case of the man born blind the disciples asked if it was his own sin or the sins of his parents that caused this situation. Jesus said that it was in order that the glory of God might be manifest.  

    He didn't say it's OK to commit the sin of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, but he didn't say that it isn't OK either.  That's the problem with Bergoglio; he likes to stir the pope and causes chaos.  He needs to make that clear when saying things like this to avoid scandal ... except that Bergoglio revels in causing scandal.  There's something very sick and twisted and diabolical about that.
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    Re: Pope Francis tells gαy man "God made you like this"
    « Reply #36 on: May 22, 2018, 08:30:14 AM »
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    • Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant on May 22, 2018, 01:55:39 AM
    Does God give birth defects to people that would almost always cause them to commit mortal sin and go to Hell?

    Uhm, most people go to hell due to sins of the flesh, caused by that defect of our fallen nature with which we are all born called concupiscence.
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    Re: Pope Francis tells gαy man "God made you like this"
    « Reply #37 on: May 22, 2018, 08:33:22 AM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on May 22, 2018, 07:18:56 AM
    Would God create people genetically/hard wired whose only sɛҳuąƖ expression in any capacity  is grave sin?

    God allows lots of things in order to test and purify people ... and, if they fail the test, leads them to hell.  We are all born with concupiscence which ... until we were to be married ... leads to grave sin.  So a person for whom it was not God's will to be married is burdened by something very similar.  God has His reasons.
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    Re: Pope Francis tells gαy man "God made you like this"
    « Reply #38 on: May 22, 2018, 08:34:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: Banezian on May 22, 2018, 07:28:07 AM
    Anyone who argues that God creates people gαy( or even hints at it) is out of their mind.

    Have you heard about God's permissive will?
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    Re: Pope Francis tells gαy man "God made you like this"
    « Reply #39 on: May 22, 2018, 08:35:40 AM »
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    • For what it's worth, here's the original quote in Spanish from CNN Español if any of you doubt he said this.

    "Describiendo su encuentro con el papa a la CNN, Cruz dijo: "Sabes Juan Carlos, eso no importa. Dios te hizo así. Dios te ama así. El papa te ama así y debes amarte y no preocuparte de lo que dice la gente"."

    Describing his meeting with the Pope to CNN, Cruz said that Francis said: "You know, Juan Carlos, God made you that way [as in ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ]. God loves you that way. The Father loves you that way and you should love yourself and not worry about what people will say." It's pretty certain coming from his native language, so I think he said that.
    Quote from: Ladislaus on May 22, 2018, 08:21:52 AM
    This has become Francis' modus operandi.  He leaks stuff that he wants to get out through third parties, but he keeps a bit of distance for the purposes of plausible deniability.  No one can prove that he actually said this.  In public, he'll have no comment and will neither confirm nor deny that he said it.  That's because he wants people to know that he said it without his enemies being able to attack him for it due to lack of proof.

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    Re: Pope Francis tells gαy man "God made you like this"
    « Reply #40 on: May 22, 2018, 08:57:10 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 22, 2018, 08:34:20 AM
    Have you heard about God's permissive will?
    Yes, and that has nothing to do with what I said. God could permit something bad to happen to a child, but there is ZERO proof that people are born homo. ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is a disorder, and I think we can be fairly certain that  this poor guy was turned gαy by abuse. God does not create people with unnatural desires.
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    Re: Pope Francis tells gαy man "God made you like this"
    « Reply #41 on: May 22, 2018, 09:10:01 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 22, 2018, 08:21:52 AM
    This has become Francis' modus operandi.  He leaks stuff that he wants to get out through third parties, but he keeps a bit of distance for the purposes of plausible deniability.  No one can prove that he actually said this.  In public, he'll have no comment and will neither confirm nor deny that he said it.  That's because he wants people to know that he said it without his enemies being able to attack him for it due to lack of proof.
    He does this so people like poche can justify their defense of his indefensible behavior.  Jimmy Akin does the same thing.  It is designed to neutralize opposition from the right.
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    Re: Pope Francis tells gαy man "God made you like this"
    « Reply #42 on: May 22, 2018, 09:22:56 AM »
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    • Quote from: Clemens Maria on May 22, 2018, 09:10:01 AM
    He does this so people like poche can justify their defense of his indefensible behavior.  Jimmy Akin does the same thing.  It is designed to neutralize opposition from the right.

    Precisely.  Bergoglio is as clever as a serpent.  So while his intended message gets out to the left (there is no hell, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is OK, remarriage is OK, etc.) ... the right defends him due to lack of proof.
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    Re: Pope Francis tells gαy man "God made you like this"
    « Reply #43 on: May 22, 2018, 10:10:26 AM »
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    • I read an article in which it seems he said he does not really think before speaking. He says that people come to him with many theological questions that he does not have an answer for, so he says whatever it comes to mind.

    He literally makes it up as he goes along.

    I personally don't think this is true. I think he knows what he is doing.
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    Re: Pope Francis tells gαy man "God made you like this"
    « Reply #44 on: May 22, 2018, 10:13:16 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on May 21, 2018, 05:17:28 PM
    Well, if he didn't, I'm *sure* he will make a public denial.   ::)

    Yep, this is proof he knows what he is doing and his comments are much more than a case of silly spontaneity.
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