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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: josefamenendez on May 16, 2018, 10:47:39 AM
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From the NY Post:
NEWS (https://nypost.com/news/)
Pope Francis hints he may retire
By Associated Press
May 15, 2018 | 9:32am
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VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis says he has thought about when it might be time to “take leave” of his flock.
Francis made the comment during his morning homily Tuesday; the Vatican didn’t release the full text.
Francis was reflecting on St. Paul discerning when to leave his flock in the care of others, a decision Francis said all bishops must make.
He said: “When I read this, I think about myself, because I’m a bishop and I’ll have to take my leave.”
Francis has said retired Pope Benedict XVI “opened a door” to future popes by resigning. While the 81-year-old pope has said he didn’t envisage a long papacy, he hasn’t said explicitly if he’d retire.
Francis may have also been referring to Chilean bishops implicated in a sex abuse cover-up scandal (https://nypost.com/2018/01/16/pope-francis-under-pressure-to-confront-sex-abuse-in-chile/).
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Let's just pray that he(and ratzinger) resign their white cassock and papal title along with it.
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And here I thought the job was for life.
Stupid me...
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Bergolio is the perfect icon for the counterfeit Vatican II church, he is a gift from God for those of good will who still believe it is the Catholic Church. Outside of another pope like Bergolio who is red and has horns could anyone be more obviously not Catholic? Be careful what you wish for.
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Bergolio is the perfect icon for the counterfeit Vatican II church, he is a gift from God for those of good will who still believe it is the Catholic Church. Outside of another pope like Bergolio who is red and has horns could anyone be more obviously not Catholic? Be careful what you wish for.
And you are a perfect example of why sedevacantism is so repulsive. You wish ill of him, and indulge in his folly.
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He's been hinting about it for years. Early on he noted that he did not have much time and people took that to mean that he would retire after a few years like Ratzinger.
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He's been hinting about it for years.
Yep. He's like the kid who tells his parents he's going to run away from home as a sympathy ploy to test whether or not they would miss him if he did.
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Did ratzinger ever hint that he might retire? Because, I remember there was such surprise and shock about his announcement.
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Did ratzinger ever hint that he might retire? Because, I remember there was such surprise and shock about his announcement.
No he didn't. However, he was a proponent of the concept of papal retirement when he was expert peritus at the 1965 Vatican Council. I also remember that he encouraged Wojtyla to retire as he aged but commentators said that Wojtyla loved being pope so much that he rejected the counsel. There were people who expected that Ratzinger would, one day, retire, but his announcement came as a shock because he was still relatively young and healthy.
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And you are a perfect example of why sedevacantism is so repulsive. You wish ill of him, and indulge in his folly.
I'm sorry. Exactly where did this poster "wish ill of him"?
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But he won't.
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I'm sorry. Exactly where did this poster "wish ill of him"?
He wishes ill of him by telling us to be careful what we wish for, implying that francis as an evil pope is universally a good thing.
Bergoglio has a much better chance of saving his soul as one who is not pope. I am not one who prays for his death, nor am I one who wishes for his continued papacy(like tradhican in both cases). Bergoglio has shown himself up until this point absolutely unqualified to be pope. That is why I see his resignation as a good thing, not only for the church, but also for bergoglio. That is opposite of what tradihcan wants. If that is good, what tradhican wants is bad, or "ill".
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Francis serves a good purpose: a sign to draw Catholics out of the Vatican II sect. He is not evil in the way men are normally thought to be evil; murderers, robbers, degenerates, but he is a destroyer of souls, an outright heretic. The longer he remains at the helm of the Conciliar Church the more souls may be brought to tradition.
Francis has a much better chance of saving his soul by converting to the faith, anything else doesn't get to the bottom of the issue, nor can he otherwise save his soul.
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Watch out!
It sounds too reminiscent of the Jєωιѕн Hollywood movie script, "Shoes of a Fisherman."
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Where... the pope retires, sells the Vatican's precious artworks and gives the proceeds to the poor commie Chinese.
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Francis serves a good purpose: a sign to draw Catholics out of the Vatican II sect. He is not evil in the way men are normally thought to be evil; murderers, robbers, degenerates, but he is a destroyer of souls, an outright heretic. The longer he remains at the helm of the Conciliar Church the more souls may be brought to tradition.
Francis has a much better chance of saving his soul by converting to the faith, anything else doesn't get to the bottom of the issue, nor can he otherwise save his soul.
Vacantists are no different from the revolutionaries who opened wide the doors to the modern world, except they presume a new springtime upon utter destruction and collapse of the v2 church, which is fantasy. It is you who need to be careful what you wish for. There are so many reforming measures that can be taken by even a v2 pope. If only tradition would pray for him and wish it so.
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I'm not glued to the Chair of Peter being empty.
I don't think Fr. Khoat was lied to, nor a liar, but as far as I know, I'm not under any obligation to accept a reigning pontiff, unless he publicly declares his authority. If Siri has a successor let him come forth.
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Bergoglio has shown himself up until this point absolutely unqualified to be pope.
Unqualified? Heck, if that were all. If he were even just legitimate, the Holy Spirit would be preventing him from wreaking havoc on the Church, despite his being unqualified.
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Quote from: Last Tradhican on Yesterday at 07:32:14 AM (https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/pope-bergoglio-hints-he-may-retire/msg609609/#msg609609)
Bergolio is the perfect icon for the counterfeit Vatican II church, he is a gift from God for those of good will who still believe it is the Catholic Church. Outside of another pope like Bergolio who is red and has horns could anyone be more obviously not Catholic? Be careful what you wish for.
And you are a perfect example of why sedevacantism is so repulsive. You wish ill of him, and indulge in his folly.
I am not a sedevacantes and where did I wish ill will of him? That's 0 for 2.
My family prays the rosary every day for his conversion and return to the pure faith and sacred doctrines, the same for my diocese bishop and all the Novus Ordo bishops and clergy. I have serious doubts whether they are even valid priests, nevertheless, I could be wrong, so I pray for their conversion. The day that priests turn green when they are valid and red when they are not, then I will have no doubts.
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I hope and pray that Francis will resign... He has been on the front of many a Communist magazine... let us hope and pray that if this rumor is true, another pope will rise up who is not on a huge mosaic at Communist festivals! I am not kidding, it has happened... since he was elected.
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PF doesn't look that bad off. He will live to make it to 85 or more. He is a revolutionary. He won't resign until he makes the Church into a Lutheran church or he is assured of the election of a clone of himself, PF the second.
As stated before, maybe God has allowed his election and the slow motion unfolding disaster to show the utter disaster that VII is.
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He won't resign until he makes the Church into a Lutheran church...
Oops! Too late. His predecessors already did that.