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« on: September 28, 2010, 01:01:20 PM »
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  • Don't know much about religion? You're not alone, study finds

    Odds are that you know Mother Teresa was Catholic, but what religion is the Dalai Lama?

    How about Maimonides?

    And - no Googling - what's the first book of the Bible? How about the first four books of the New Testament?

    Americans who can answer all of those questions are relatively rare, a huge new study has found.

    In fact, although the United States is one of the most religious developed countries in the world, most Americans scored 50 percent or less on a quiz measuring knowledge of the Bible, world religions and what the Constitution says about religion in public life.

    The survey is full of surprising findings.

    For example, it's not evangelicals or Catholics who did best - it's atheists and agnostics.

    It's not Bible-belt Southerners who scored highest - they came at the bottom.

    Those who believe the Bible is the literal word of God did slightly worse than average, while those who say it is not the word of God scored slightly better.

    Barely half of all Catholics know that when they take communion, the bread and wine literally become the body and blood of Christ, according to Catholic doctrine.

    And only about one in three know that a public school teacher is allowed to teach a comparative religion class - although nine out of 10 know that teacher isn't allowed by the Supreme Court to lead a class in prayer.

    The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life is behind the 32-question quiz, polling more than 3,400 Americans by telephone to gauge the depth of the country's religious knowledge.

    Read CNN Belief Blog contributor and Pew adviser Stephen Prothero's take on the survey

    "When it comes to religion, there are a lot of things that Americans are unfamiliar with. That's the main takeaway," says Greg Smith, a senior researcher at the think tank and one of the main authors of the survey.

    Smith has a theory about why atheists did so well on the quiz - they have thought more about religion than most people.

    "Very few people say that they were raised as atheists and agnostics," he explains.

    About three out of four were raised as Christians, he says.

    "They were raised in a faith and have made a decision to identify themselves with groups that tend to be fairly unpopular," atheists and agnostics, he says.

    "That decision presupposes having given some thought to these things," which is strongly linked with religious knowledge, he says.

    The single strongest factor predicting how well a person does on the religious knowledge quiz is education - the more years of schooling a person has, the more they are likely to know about religion, regardless of how religious they consider themselves to be, Pew found.

    "The No. 1 predictor without question is simply educational attainment," Smith said.

    The think tank also asked a handful of general knowledge questions - such as who wrote "Moby-Dick" and who's the vice president of the United States - and found a link between religious knowledge and general knowledge.

    Very few people scored high on religion questions and badly on general knowledge, or vice versa.

    People who were members of religious youth groups also did well, he said.

    "Religious education is an important factor that helps to explain knowledge - people who participated in youth groups get an average of two extra questions right," he said.

    Jєωs and Mormons were close behind atheists and agnostics as the group who did best overall on the religion questions, and white evangelical Protestants also tended to get more than half right.

    White Catholics averaged exactly half right, followed by mainline Protestants and people who said they were "nothing in particular," both of whom got just under half right.

    Black Protestants got just over a third of the questions right, and Hispanic Catholics just under a third, the Pew Forum found.

    The survey was inspired partly by CNN Belief Blog contributor Stephen Prothero's 2007 book, "Religious Literacy: What Every American Needs to Know - And Doesn't."

    Because the Pew Forum couldn't find any indication that such a survey has ever been done before, it can't say if Americans today know more or less about religion now than they did in the past.

    And the organization doesn't claim too much for its 32 questions.

    They "are intended to be representative of a body of important knowledge about religion; they are not meant to be a list of the most essential facts," the Pew Forum says.

    Only eight of the 3,412 survey respondents got all 32 questions right. Six got them all wrong.
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    « Reply #1 on: September 28, 2010, 01:02:12 PM »
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  • And for your "Crisis in the Church" folder --

    1/2 of Catholics didn't know that Jesus Christ is physically present in the Holy Communion they believe they receive every week (in the hand, in flip flops and jeans).

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    « Reply #2 on: September 28, 2010, 01:06:39 PM »
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  • Bible Belters in my experience are so ignorant!  Not that I am so very conversant in History, but still.

    I have asked them about the great cathedrals and monasteries built say, 800 years ago-"what religion are they?"

    No answer for that one.

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    « Reply #3 on: September 28, 2010, 01:18:13 PM »
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    1/2 of Catholics didn't know that Jesus Christ is physically present in the Holy Communion they believe they receive every week (in the hand, in flip flops and jeans).


    That's obvious without a survey.  And for those that do know, I don't quite think that they believe it.

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    « Reply #4 on: September 28, 2010, 01:29:52 PM »
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    Bible Belters in my experience are so ignorant!  Not that I am so very conversant in History, but still.

    I have asked them about the great cathedrals and monasteries built say, 800 years ago-"what religion are they?"

    No answer for that one.


    true, all they know is the little corner of thier universe.....and often have a "we all love Jesus no matter our denomination" attitude-try telling them there is even a True Faith...let alone conversion to it....
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic


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    « Reply #5 on: September 28, 2010, 01:32:11 PM »
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    And for your "Crisis in the Church" folder --

    1/2 of Catholics didn't know that Jesus Christ is physically present in the Holy Communion they believe they receive every week (in the hand, in flip flops and jeans).

    Matthew


    sounds about right-ah, smell it, the springtime of V2...mmm...
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic

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    « Reply #6 on: September 28, 2010, 01:34:04 PM »
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    It's not Bible-belt Southerners who scored highest - they came at the bottom.


    yet they're the most rabid to go and bomb someone....dont even know why nor where those "someone" are...
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic

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    « Reply #7 on: September 28, 2010, 01:35:01 PM »
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    Bible Belters in my experience are so ignorant!  Not that I am so very conversant in History, but still.

    I have asked them about the great cathedrals and monasteries built say, 800 years ago-"what religion are they?"

    No answer for that one.


    but, they can tell you quick Catholics want to keep the bible out of someone's hands...and other myths...
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic


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    « Reply #8 on: September 28, 2010, 01:38:49 PM »
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  • I'm rather skeptical of this.  

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    « Reply #9 on: September 28, 2010, 01:48:32 PM »
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    I'm rather skeptical of this.  


    the article or the fact some Prots are taught that Catholics tried to suppress bible reading??
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    « Reply #10 on: September 28, 2010, 02:26:52 PM »
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    I'm rather skeptical of this.  


    the article or the fact some Prots are taught that Catholics tried to suppress bible reading??


    The article.



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    « Reply #11 on: September 28, 2010, 06:17:08 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    And for your "Crisis in the Church" folder --

    1/2 of Catholics didn't know that Jesus Christ is physically present in the Holy Communion they believe they receive every week (in the hand, in flip flops and jeans).

    Matthew


    Compare that to nearly 100% believed that Jesus Christ is
    physically present in Holy Communion 50 years ago.
    Why the change?
    Vatican 2 and all the reforms since 1965.
    I should know,because I lived at that time.

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    « Reply #12 on: September 28, 2010, 06:27:55 PM »
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  • Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
    Quote from: Matthew
    And for your "Crisis in the Church" folder --

    1/2 of Catholics didn't know that Jesus Christ is physically present in the Holy Communion they believe they receive every week (in the hand, in flip flops and jeans).

    Matthew


    Compare that to nearly 100% believed that Jesus Christ is
    physically present in Holy Communion 50 years ago.
    Why the change?
    Vatican 2 and all the reforms since 1965.
    I should know,because I lived at that time.


    They know today that's what the Church taught.  But listening to a typical priest, you wouldn't know today if Church still teaches that.  Especially when they speak of "receiving the bread" during a sermon on Corpus Christi at Sacred Heart Church in Cincinnati. (during a traditional mass)

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    « Reply #13 on: September 28, 2010, 06:43:48 PM »
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  • I read some of the comments on the CNN article for this story (most of them are from atheists, unsurprisingly). They're pretty revolting. They're all claiming that because atheists allegedly scored higher on the quiz than Theists that this allegedly "proves" that atheists are "so much more informed about religion then the religious" and study religion more thoroughly than Theists which--they claim--leads to them to reject it in favor of atheism which they further allege is "solely based on 'logic' and 'reason'" (so-called). They say, "the more one truly studies religion they less likely they are to believe in it."

    One atheist there claims, "Lack of religion is correlated with intelligence, studies have been showing this for years." Another one says, "No surprise here – the religious people are low IQ, the atheist high IQ. That has been proven. It also explains why the atheists don't lap the religious stuff up – too smart for that." Yet, another one says, "So it's plain, the more educated & smart you are, the less likely you are to be pulled into the fairy tale world that is religion. They pondered religion, weighed it and rejected it, whereas the less intelligent/lazy minded are more likely to blindly follow a faith even without understanding it."

    What would be a good way to answer/refute these claims? I'd like to know in case I ever get into an argument with one of these types.

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    « Reply #14 on: September 28, 2010, 07:06:06 PM »
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  • By knowing your religion.  Shame on the Catholics!
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    Please pray for the repose of her soul.