As for Poland, German territory was taken by Poland in the Versailles Treaty. Did Germany have a right to regain their territory? Or even to expect decent treatment of the German majority living in the Danzig region?

Certainly the examples of the US and Occupied Palestine suggest that the world's opinion is "Might makes right."  Is that consistent with Catholic morality?

For me, the salient matter is this: World "Jєωry" declared war on Germany in 1934. They sowed wind and reaped a whirlwind with more than a little blowback for the entire world. 60 to 80 million people, 5 to 6 million of them Poles, died in the second world war that the Chosen People started—on a background of innumerable wars instigated, suborned, waged, funded, and profited by them and their damned banks.

And the adversaries to all men have the unmitigated gall to pose as being the victims in the war that they started!

I weep not just for the Poles, but for all the innocents that died. Does that make me "suspicious" or Raoul's enemy? I don't care.  Except for saving my own soul and the souls of those I love, I do not care so much WHO is right, as WHAT is right. I would be very happy to be wrong here, then corrected, as long as I am right on Judgment Day. Since my own heritage is mixed, I have no jingoistic tribal axe to grind—unlike some others [ahem].

The thread from a couple of weeks ago brought to light some very interesting history. Until that thread I had never heard of the Rakovsky interrogation and its timing with the "light" of Our Blessed Mother's warning at Fatima. The connection of that interrogation and the uncovering of yet more meddling by the holy hypocrites was indeed interesting to me—no matter who put that history on the table.

Ethelred posted this letter from Bp. Williamson:

Our Lady of Fatima
May 1, 2000

Dear Friends and Benefactors,

A fascinating article in a recent issue of an American Catholic periodical, “All These Things”, told me a little fact about Our Lady of Fatima that I had not known, and which is most revealing, and re-assuring. For Our Lady’s month of May, let us present this proof of her presence and power amidst all the wickedness of the world around us. But we must begin with quite a bit of background.

Most readers will be familiar with the main outlines of the story of Our Lady of Fatima, referred to also in this month’s accompanying issue of “Verbum”. From May to October of 1917, on the 13th of each month, Our Lady appeared to three little shepherd children in the village of Fatima, Portugal, to teach to the modern world Heaven’s answer to the Communist revolution with all the horrors it would bring in its train from October 1917 when it took over the great land of Russia.

Most readers also know that on July 13 Our Lady gave a message to one of the children which is known as the Second Secret. In it she said amongst other things that the war then raging, World War One, would end. “But if men do not cease offending God, another worse one will begin in the reign of Pius XI. When you see a night lit up by an unknown light, know that it is the great sign given you by God that he is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine and persecutions against the Church and the Holy Father”.

She concluded, “To prevent this, I will come to ask for the consecration of Russia to My Immaculate Heart, and the Communion of Reparation on the first Saturdays of the month. If my requests are granted, Russia will be converted and there will be peace. If not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, raising up wars and persecutions against the Church. The good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer. Various nations will be annihilated”.

Now most of you know that this Consecration of Russia to Mary’s Immaculate Heart which Our Lady called for, has never been properly performed with all the conditions fulfilled as Our Lady requested. The result is that Russia’s key error of atheistic materialism has spread all over the world, so that even the United States which once appeared to be a valiant enemy of Communism, is now a Communist country in all but name. Then when was the night “lit up by an unknown light”, signifying that the still offended God was going to punish the world “by means of war”, etc.?

That light appeared all over the sky of Western Europe and then in Northern America on the evening of January 25, 1938. Over a large part of the northern hemisphere “the sky was ablaze like an immense moving furnace, provoking a very strong blood-red glow. The edge of the furnace was white, as if the sun was about to come up”, said a newspaper report. It lasted from about 6:30 to 9:30 pm in Europe. The “experts” said that it must have been the northern lights, or an “aurora borealis”, but those northern lights are caused by sun-spots, of which only a minimum were recorded at that time. Also the nature of the light was quite different from that of an “aurora borealis” – on January 25, 1938 in many cities the fire engines rolled out to look for the fire, something they never do for an “aurora borealis”.

Lucy, by then Sister, immediately recognized in the unusual night light the warning that Our Lady had told her of 20 years before. And of course in September of 1939, the terrible Second World War began with England and France declaring war on Germany because of Hitler’s invasion of Poland. Ironically, this war would result by 1945 in Poland’s being betrayed soon after to the Communists, along with the large part of Eastern Europe, a huge triumph for Russia’s errors, just as Our Lady had warned at Fatima if Russia were not consecrated to her Immaculate Heart.

Yet when the Second Secret became known, its accuracy in this respect was questioned on two grounds. Firstly, as everybody is told, it was the wicked Hitler and not “Uncle Joe” Stalin who was responsible for the start of WW II. So what sense did it make to call for the consecration of Russia and not of Germany? And secondly, the Second Secret said that “another worse war will begin in the reign of Pius XI”. But Pius XI died on February 10, 1939, while the Second World War was only declared on September 3, 1939, under the reign then of Pope Pius XII, not Pius XI. Opponents of Fatima seized on these “mistakes” to discredit the Second Secret.

However, in Brother Michael of the Holy Trinity’s wonderful three-volume series “The Whole Truth about Fatima”, published in English as part of Fr. Nicholas Gruner’s heroic efforts to get the Fatima message out to the world (I.H. Publications, Box 1028, Buffalo NY 14205, USA), Brother Michael answers these objections (vol.II, pp. 688-702). He shows that in reality it was Stalin who cleverly maneuvered Hitler into declaring war on the Western democracies, which means that Communist Russia was really the one to blame. Stalin calculated that once another huge fight between Germany, France and Britain had exhausted them all, then Russia would step in and take over Europe. Indeed World War II resulted in Communism taking over the Eastern half of Europe. So the real criminal who started the war could be identified as the one who finally profited from it, not Hitler but Stalin.

The second objection concerning Pope Pius XI or XII then solves itself: the Second World War began not really with Hitler’s invasion of Poland, but with the prior dealings between Hitler and Stalin culminating in the famous German-Russian Ribbentrop non-aggression Pact of August 23, 1939, which by covering Hitler to the East enabled him within ten days to defy his enemies to the West. (So it turned out. War between Germany and Russia broke out only in June of 1941). Thus WW II started in secret well before it started in public, under Pius XI’s reign as Our Lady said, and not under Pius XII’s. It is remarkable confirmation of this explanation which appeared in the recent “All These Things” (P.O.Box 11339, Cincinnati, OH 45211, USA).

Many of you know of the great struggle in the 1930’s between nationalist and internationalist Communists. Inside Russia, the nationalist Stalin had succeeded in ousting his former ally, the internationalist Trotzky, but the internationalists, then and now real rulers of the modern world, were plotting inside Russia to oust Stalin in turn. He discovered their plot, imprisoned the ringleaders, put them on trial in the famous show trials of the Great Purge of 1937 and 1938, and had them shot.

However one victim who escaped death was a certain Christian Rakovsky (Christian only in name), one of the internationalists who considered Stalin had betrayed Communism by putting the interests of Russia and himself first. Rakovsky, to save his life, promised to tell Stalin secrets of great value to Stalin. Stalin who knew that Rakovsky was one of those few men who are the real rulers of the world, agreed to listen. The resulting interrogation of Rakovsky by one of Stalin’s agents inside the prison was recorded by the interpreter present for the interrogation, and by him it was smuggled out of the prison. By remarkable circuмstances it reached the West, where it should be far better known that it is, but of course the modern world has a thousand ways of smothering its own dirty secrets. God puts in men’s hands the “Protocols of the Sages of Sion” and the “Rakovsky Interview”, if men want to know the truth, but few do.

What Rakovsky told Stalin’s agent was that as far as “they” were concerned (meaning the internationalist plotters for world control by money) he, Stalin, had betrayed their Communist Revolution in Russia. So to bring Stalin down, “they” had brought Hitler to power by giving to his nαzι party crucial financial support in the late 1920’s. How-ever, Hitler, by issuing his own money to replace their debt-money, was now liberating Germany from their control, a liberation so threatening to their world-power that they were now willing to forget their feud with Stalin and join with him in crushing Hitler. So here was the deal, said Rakovsky: if Stalin would put out feelers to Hitler for a Hitler-Stalin pact, to include a joint invasion and partitioning of Poland, then Stalin would get all kinds of decisive help from the USA and from other unexpected quarters, and when the Hitler-Stalin deal had produced the desirable war to crush Hitler, then Stalin could be given Europe (in the event he got half of it). But if Stalin would not put out those feelers towards Hitler, then he could expect from those same quarters to be crushed himself!

Rakovsky’s interrogator required confirmation of such secret realities. Rakovsky told him to check out his truthfulness with – the USA ambassador in Moscow! This Mr. Davis duly confirmed everything Rakovsky had said. Rakovsky’s life was spared. Stalin put out the feelers to Hitler, and the Ribbentrop Pact and World War Two were well on their way.

Now when exactly did the Rakosvky interview take place? From midnight to 6 am, Moscow time, in the night of Jan. 25-26, 1938, or, from 9 pm to 3 am West European time! In other words, the beginning of that interview overlapped exactly with the end of Our Lady’s warning light in the night sky!

Dear readers, God is in command. He and His Mother know exactly what they are doing. They do not expect all of us to know such details as above of the plotting of wicked men, but especially when we do know them, Heaven expects us to take the simple remedial action which it puts in the hands of all of us – the prayer of the Rosary and the five first Saturdays. We cannot see, but we must believe in, the world-saving power of these simple remedies. “In that same hour, Jesus rejoiced in the Holy Ghost, and said: I confess to Thee, O Father, because thou hast hidden these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them to little ones. Yea, Father, for so it hath seemed good in thy sight” (Lk. X,21).

Towards the Mother of God we need to have the boundless trust and obedience of little ones.

Sincerely yours in Christ,

Bishop Richard Williamson

May the Holy Ghost continue to flood Bp. Williamson with His Sevenfold Gifts!

..so you're trying to have it both ways here, support the Germans...

Are you dyslexic ? Can you see the question marks ? Is everyone that asks a question your opponent ? I did not "support" the Germans. Stop projecting your paranoia on every passerby.  Question marks—see them. They look like this: ?

I posed questions because there are no easy answers. How far back do these tribal territorial claims go ? Amerinds in the USA ? European αѕнкenαzιs without a drop of Semitic blood in them in Occupied Palestine ? Germans in Danzig ?

What are the Catholic principles applicable to such territorial claims ?

I am not your opponent (though your boorish and incessant accusatory style invites such) just because I seek the truth and look for answers.

Can't have it both ways ? Can't have what both ways ?  There is plenty of guilt on both sides. Neither the Axis nor the Allies were impeccable in their behavior. Not even the Poles were impeccable.

As for the war in Japan, the Catholic historian Anthony Kubek points out that it was a half-Jєωιѕн agent for Stalin, Harry Dexter White, who crafted the ultimatum against Japan and who helped to scuttle any serious negotiations that could have averted war with Japan.

Incidentally he also refused to deliver $200,000,000 in gold to Chiang Kai-Shek, even though Secretary Morgenthau himself wanted the gold delivered - causing a collapse in the currency of the Nationalist Chinese government, fatally undermining it, and paving the way for Mao.

Thank you for all that focus on facts, Telephorus. I claim only interest and modest familiarity with certain aspects of WW2.

In the apportionment of guilt, I was very taken by Gen. MacArthur's revelation in his autobiography that Japan attempted to first surrender in November of 1944. It was only on Japan's third attempt that their surrender was accepted on the original terms offered—to keep Hirohito as their titular head.

To me, it is horrifying to realize that between November 1944 and August 1945 250,000 people died in the Pacific theatre—same terms plus a quarter of a million dead because the USA wanted to show off its new weapon.

All evidence of Satan's work (and his ѕуηαgσgυє's work) in the world—in the USA.

Further confirmed by Telephorus's additional revelations about FDR [hawk, ptui!].

Yes, Walter Trohan of the Chicago Tribune released that information after the Japanese surrender.

Anthony Kubek covers that as well in his How the Far East Was Lost.

PC sensibilities (especially in matters pertaining to Jєωs) hadn't quite taken over the right wing in the 1950s.  

Morgenthau and his father were both malignant Jєωs, as proved by the fabrication of the "Crown Council" meeting in which the Kaiser supposedly planned the war, and Henry Morgenthau by his fervent support for his monstrous "Morgenthau Plan"

But Harry Dexter White was a diabolical genius who was more insidious.

James Forrestal, who was raised Catholic, opposed the use of the bomb on Japan, btw.

His unexpurgated diaries are available on microfiche, I haven't had the chance to read them yet, I'm sure they would be fascinating.

Incidentally also refused to deliver $200,000,000 in gold to Chiang Kai-Shek, even though Secretary Morgenthau himself wanted the gold delivered - causing a collapse in the currency of the Nationalist Chinese government, fatally undermining it, and paving the way for Mao.

I would be hard-pressed to recall the source, but I recall reading that Morgenthau was equally complicit. I do not recall him being anything but an obstacle to the Nationalists.

It is easy to blame "the Jєωs" for their genocide of 60+million Soviet Christians. By implicating White and Morgenthau in Asia, Communist operatives both, the 75+million dead at Maoist hands can also be laid at the ѕуηαgσgυє door.

And the world lambasts Christendom. [shaking head]

I've read a lot about WWII, but I don't have a good grip on it, and frankly, it's hard to care so much about it now, because people don't seem to want the truth.

As to your question, I think it can be explained by the facts that the nαzιs wanted the Jєωs out of Europe and the Zionists wanted the Jєωs in Palestine.  

Why did Hitler and Stalin cooperate for a while, and then go to war?

Their interests just happened to coincide.