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Offline Mr G

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Please pray for Tom Nelson
« on: January 13, 2020, 05:56:39 PM »
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  • From an e-mail:

    Fr. Kurtz just gave Tom Last Rites. Tom was aware that he was being anointed and was trying to make the sign of the cross. He is still in critical condition and needs your prayers.

    Please pray for Tom Nelson (founder of TAN books) for he had a stroke Friday night. He is currently at Rockford Memorial Hospital and is not coherent. They are concerned that he could die at any time. Fr. Kurtz is right now on his way to give him Last Rites.


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    Re: Please pray for Tom Nelson
    « Reply #1 on: January 13, 2020, 06:32:47 PM »
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  •  :pray: :pray: :pray: I believe that Tom Nelson is Matthew’s uncle. We will pray our family rosary for him.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?


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    Re: Please pray for Tom Nelson
    « Reply #2 on: January 13, 2020, 06:41:48 PM »
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  • :pray: :pray: :pray: I believe that Tom Nelson is Matthew’s uncle. We will pray our family rosary for him.
    His great uncle and confirmation sponsor among many other things.
    "I think that Catholicism, that's as sane as people can get."  - Jordan Peterson

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    Re: Please pray for Tom Nelson
    « Reply #3 on: January 13, 2020, 06:57:32 PM »
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  • Will pray for him indeed.  He once wrote me a personal letter back when I was young and a fervent "conservative Novus Ordo" activist --- I had not yet come to Tradition, and was scandalized by the fact that TAN sold books by Michael Davies and books questioning the New Mass.  Mr Nelson did a lot of good for the Church and for the traditionalist movement.

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    Re: Please pray for Tom Nelson
    « Reply #4 on: January 13, 2020, 06:59:18 PM »
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  • From an e-mail:

    Fr. Kurtz just gave Tom Last Rites. Tom was aware that he was being anointed and was trying to make the sign of the cross. 
    That is very edifying!
    We will be praying as soon as this post is done.
    No time to waste; more about Tom later.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    Re: Please pray for Tom Nelson
    « Reply #5 on: January 13, 2020, 08:13:20 PM »
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  • We will pray for Mr. Nelson.  We will pray for Mathew, Mater and their family too. 

    May God bless them. 
    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: Please pray for Tom Nelson
    « Reply #6 on: January 13, 2020, 08:16:30 PM »
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  • Little by little, all the great lay-champions of Catholic traditionalism pass away, and there is nobody left to fill their shoes.

    Men like Thomas A. Nelson are "doers."

    Few are left today with the conviction to think something up, and then do it.

    We used to have men and women like:

    1.      Hamish Fraser (1986)
    2.      Dietrich von Hildebrand (1977)
    3.      Michael Davies (2004)
    4.      Jean Madiran (2013)
    5.      Paul Chaussee (2019)
    6.      Gustavo Corcao (1978)
    7.      Jean Ousset (1994)
    8.      Louis Salleron (1992)
    9.      John Senior (1999)
    10.  Solange Hertz (2015)
    11.  Arnaud de Lassus (2017)
    12.  William Marra (1998)

    Nobody seems willing or able to fill their shoes anymore.

    Thomas A Nelson will become another loss, and his shoes likewise will not be filled.

    We are vanishing from the world, and we deserve to.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Please pray for Tom Nelson
    « Reply #7 on: January 13, 2020, 09:04:16 PM »
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  • I'd like to add John Vennari to that list! :incense:
    Fortuna finem habet.


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    Re: Please pray for Tom Nelson
    « Reply #8 on: January 13, 2020, 10:32:48 PM »
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  •  :pray: :pray: :pray:

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    Re: Please pray for Tom Nelson
    « Reply #9 on: January 14, 2020, 06:13:23 AM »
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  •  :pray:
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: Please pray for Tom Nelson
    « Reply #10 on: January 14, 2020, 06:18:57 AM »
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  • His great uncle and confirmation sponsor among many other things.
    Thanks for the verification, he is in our prayers.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?


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    Re: Please pray for Tom Nelson
    « Reply #11 on: January 14, 2020, 06:41:21 AM »
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  • Little by little, all the great lay-champions of Catholic traditionalism pass away, and there is nobody left to fill their shoes.

    Men like Thomas A. Nelson are "doers."

    Few are left today with the conviction to think something up, and then do it.

    We used to have men and women like:

    1.      Hamish Fraser (1986)
    2.      Dietrich von Hildebrand (1977)
    3.      Michael Davies (2004)
    4.      Jean Madiran (2013)
    5.      Paul Chaussee (2019)
    6.      Gustavo Corcao (1978)
    7.      Jean Ousset (1994)
    8.      Louis Salleron (1992)
    9.      John Senior (1999)
    10.  Solange Hertz (2015)
    11.  Arnaud de Lassus (2017)
    12.  William Marra (1998)

    Nobody seems willing or able to fill their shoes anymore.

    Thomas A Nelson will become another loss, and his shoes likewise will not be filled.

    We are vanishing from the world, and we deserve to.
    I find this to be incredibly true. Kyrie eleison.
    "When human beings have been brutalised by impurity, they will allow themselves to be enslaved without making any attempt to react." ~ Fr. Fahey


    Ut sciat omnis in terra quia est Deus in Israel!

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    Re: Please pray for Tom Nelson
    « Reply #12 on: January 14, 2020, 08:21:16 AM »
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  • From Bishop Williamson:


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    I will offer Mass for him tomorrow, dead or alive, and if he is still alive, and can hear what is being said, then somebody may let him know that I am praying for him.
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    Re: Please pray for Tom Nelson
    « Reply #13 on: January 14, 2020, 09:41:01 AM »
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    Re: Please pray for Tom Nelson
    « Reply #14 on: January 14, 2020, 12:25:22 PM »
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  • Little by little, all the great lay-champions of Catholic traditionalism pass away, and there is nobody left to fill their shoes.

    Men like Thomas A. Nelson are "doers."

    Few are left today with the conviction to think something up, and then do it.

    Nobody seems willing or able to fill their shoes anymore.

    Thomas A Nelson will become another loss, and his shoes likewise will not be filled.

    We are vanishing from the world, and we deserve to.

    With all due respect, 2020 is not 1967. It was a different time then.

    Tom Nelson starts an independent chapel in the early 70's, and all faithful Traditional Catholics come to his chapel, creating a flourishing parish of sorts. 110 parishioners at its peak -- 2 Masses every Sunday.

    Those who would become Pfeifferites if given a chance, those who would be SSPX if given a chance, those who lean Sedevacantist, those who would support Bishop Williamson and the Resistance if given a chance -- ALL OF THE ABOVE. They all came together and made a flourishing parish. 3 different kids' Catechism classes every Sunday, daily Mass, etc.

    Today, Tom Nelson's grand-nephew starts an independent chapel, and almost 7 years later the parishioners still number in the low 20's -- counting his own family of 10. The SSPX is 45 minutes away, and most are content to stay there. Some Trads in the area are sedevacantist, home-aloner, and/or Pfeifferite, and so they stay aloof and never attend. There is an Indult Mass in both San Antonio AND Austin, which further sucks away a bunch of other would-be parishioners.

    I should point out: Tom Nelson's own chapel went down to about 20 people once the Institute of Christ the King came to Rockford, IL in the mid-90's. The Conciliar Church gave them a nice beautiful (pre-Vatican II style) CHURCH -- not a chapel -- to use for the Tridentine Mass, located in the center of downtown. They fixed it up, sold pizza kits and put tens of thousands of dollars into stained glass, and basically they have been playing 1950's parish ("What Crisis in the Church?") for the past 25 years. They have their Latin Mass, an occasional pro-life Rosary or other pro-life action, and they're good. The Crisis is over, as far as that crowd is concerned.

    I could say the same thing about a Catholic book publisher. eBooks and the Internet didn't exist back in 1967 when TAN Books was founded. There were no other Trad Catholic publishers: no Ignatius, Sophia, Lepanto, Angelus Press, or any others. TAN was it. There were no archive websites with hundreds of free public-domain Catholic books available for download in PDF or other ebook formats.

    If I tried to create a TAN Books clone today, it wouldn't succeed.

    Bishop Williamson tends to agree, which is why he hasn't started a "Society of St. Pius X II". Times have changed. 2020 is not 1970.

    My point: history doesn't repeat itself. It rhymes, it shifts, it takes things to the next level -- but you'll never see things oscillate like an oscillator circuit, completely repeating the same thing over and over. It's always a little different this go-round.

    When you grasp this basic point, you are very close to grasping the full truth about God, the world, and everything.

    For example, in 1970, if a healthy man couldn't make a living he was probably lazy. But it turns out that there were 10X as many jobs open to high-school drop outs compared with 2020. And if you had a High School diploma, MOST jobs were open to you. So it would be a mistake to judge a young man today by 1970's standards. Again, times have changed and this must be taken into account.
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