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Re: Please explain how you are just anti-abortion but pro-life
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2018, 12:19:14 PM »
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Pro-Life is a euphemism for [anti-]abortion.
Even the term abortion is a euphemism. You abort a space flight, a computer program...…… The correct term should be Infanticide
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Rather, pro-life is an equivalent term for anti-abortion.
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"Euphemism" has derogatory implications:
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Shoot, heck, cripes, sheesh, gads, kike, nip, wap, kraut, chink, blow and charlie are euphemisms.

Re: Please explain how you are just anti-abortion but pro-life
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2018, 12:30:11 PM »
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Some great comments above lads. Personally I refer to abortion as baby killing, for that is what it is.
However, I once went to a 'pro-life' meeting filled with Catholics and priests and asked why don't Catholic 'pro-lifers' include the fact that abortions send babies to their deaths without Baptism, preventing them from ever enjoying the Beatific Vision, a fate worse than being murdred after baptism. That might change the minds of some Catholic women thinking about abortion I said.
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There was silence in the hall until I was told a priest would talk to me after the meeting. None took up the task. One person came up to me and said Pope John Paul II said that such babies go straight to heaven. I replied why would Catholics try to stop abortion so, as it is the surest way to get into heaven, given the chances are far less if they lived and died.

I came to the conclusion that these 'pro-lifers were humanist pro-lifers. I never attended their meetings again.
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What you witnessed is the result of the popular heresy that Baptism is not necessary for sanctification and consequently salvation.
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There wasn't a priest who would discuss the question with you because they didn't want to face up to their own heresy.
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Furthermore, I take it this occurred in Ireland -- if so, it goes toward explaining why abortion was recently legalized there.
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When Catholics don't defend the faith then society at large suffers the effects of apostasy. 


Re: Please explain how you are just anti-abortion but pro-life
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2018, 12:32:48 PM »
Cassini:  You were amongst the New Order, not catholic group.  the so-called priest, was no priest but a masonic man installed.  He has no Holy Orders and can bring no sacraments.  True!  New Order supports abortion, with $$$$.  Catholic Charities supports abortion, yes!  The so-called dioceses knows this so well, for they are not working for the life of souls.  Oh no!  Don't you know, the dioceses serves State and Federal gov't known as the agenda of Communism, the Error that Our Lady warned us of, over 100 years ago!

And these infiltrators bring no life on a "table" of the new sect mess.

Re: Please explain how you are just anti-abortion but pro-life
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2018, 12:49:22 PM »
Let's not forget the Pro-life groups, like Human Life International, and Judy Brown.  These people, IF they talk up names of Great New Order pro-life Bishops and such, don't believe them.  Priests for Life, don't believe them.  They are New Order and they Support abortion.  We have proof, through Stephanie Block, that Catholic Charities and programs like Domestic Violence hide Planned Parenthood.

Does this shock you!  I hope so.  No one should talk up anything in the New Order.  They bring no life to souls, for that is not their goal.

I read Federal Grants in the 90's here in AZ.  It is not just this state, it is all of the New Order.  

Read what happened in Europe with the extermination of the catholics, clergy, nuns and churches, etc.  Who took their place?  Only those who would support the state and gov't.  That holds true here as well. That is the Error.  Chapter 12 of Daniel says, the Mass will end.  Yes, sorry to say, but the True Catholic Church has known this, for how long?!  Pope Leo XIII and Cardinal Manning saw it coming.  Sure!  When Luther took away the Precious Blood, sure, there is a start there but look now!  We are at the point of remnant.  

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Re: Please explain how you are just anti-abortion but pro-life
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2018, 01:04:58 PM »
Please note before you answer there's more than life to birth. Welfare statists seem to grasp this
Why do we need to explain our position?  Why aren't we asking them why they are in favor of gaining control of other people's money (i.e., the taxation needed for government managed welfare) but not in favor of banning killing babies while still in the womb? 
It sounds like a form of blackmail.  You let me kill this baby or give me one million dollars?  What?  You don't have or are unwilling to part with your million dollars?  Then you must not be pro-life.  It's blackmail.  It's also a false equivalence.  There is no other follow up activities if there is no life to begin with.  The pro-abortion crowd is in favor of abortion (I think because they view it as poking God in the Eye), the reason lefties and pro-abortion people are in favor of welfare plans isn't that they care about others, it is because they want power over others and they want to enrich themselves in the process.  Very very little of our taxes actually do go to poor people. 
Killing babies (whether in the womb or not) is never the answer.