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Offline monka966

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Pictures of "Pope" Michael's "Ordination" and "Consecration"
« on: May 15, 2019, 07:58:47 AM »
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    • Does anyone have pictures of "Pope" Michael's "Ordination" and "Consecration" by "Bishop" Robert Biarnesen? Please post them if you can. Thanks and God bless.
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    Offline Maillot Jaune

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    Re: Pictures of "Pope" Michael's "Ordination" and "Consecration"
    « Reply #1 on: May 15, 2019, 08:48:44 AM »
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    • What's the point in wasting your time and thoughts with that clown?
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    Offline monka966

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    Re: Pictures of "Pope" Michael's "Ordination" and "Consecration"
    « Reply #2 on: May 15, 2019, 10:26:13 AM »
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    • I would like to see the paper miter again ; )
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    Offline Emitte Lucem Tuam

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    Re: Pictures of "Pope" Michael's "Ordination" and "Consecration"
    « Reply #3 on: May 15, 2019, 07:10:46 PM »
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    • Well, you can still view “Pope” Pius XIII’s ( Lucian Pulvermacher) website...it’s been almost 10 years since he’s died.
    http://www.truecarpentry.org/tccwww/cathwww/

    They’re even contemplating a new “conclave” ...
    http://www.truecarpentry.org/tccwww/cathwww/zapostolic/methods.htm

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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Pictures of "Pope" Michael's "Ordination" and "Consecration"
    « Reply #4 on: May 15, 2019, 09:18:54 PM »
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    • Was he wearing pajamas in his Mom's basement for the occasion?

    Of course they would have had to be white.

    Anyone who would consecrate (or even just ordain) "Michael" would be ipso facto suspect of not being mentally competent to validly confer Orders.
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    Re: Pictures of "Pope" Michael's "Ordination" and "Consecration"
    « Reply #5 on: May 15, 2019, 09:21:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Emitte Lucem Tuam on May 15, 2019, 07:10:46 PM
    They’re even contemplating a new “conclave” ...
    http://www.truecarpentry.org/tccwww/cathwww/zapostolic/methods.htm

    Why the delay?  Why wouldn't Pius have appointed Cardinals, rendering the election of his successor a mere formality?
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    Offline monka966

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    Re: Pictures of "Pope" Michael's "Ordination" and "Consecration"
    « Reply #6 on: May 15, 2019, 09:52:20 PM »
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    • Ladies and Gentleman I was hoping to get hyperlinks to the specific "ordination" and "consecration" pictures.

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    Re: Pictures of "Pope" Michael's "Ordination" and "Consecration"
    « Reply #7 on: May 15, 2019, 10:19:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: monka966 on May 15, 2019, 09:52:20 PM
    Ladies and Gentleman I was hoping to get hyperlinks to the specific "ordination" and "consecration" pictures.

    We know.  I doubt that such exist.
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    Offline Your Friend Colin

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    Re: Pictures of "Pope" Michael's "Ordination" and "Consecration"
    « Reply #8 on: May 15, 2019, 10:49:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 15, 2019, 09:18:54 PM
    Anyone who would consecrate (or even just ordain) "Michael" would be ipso facto suspect of not being mentally competent to validly confer Orders.
    Couldn't you say the same about +Thuc and the Palmarians?
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    Re: Pictures of "Pope" Michael's "Ordination" and "Consecration"
    « Reply #9 on: May 15, 2019, 11:39:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: Your Friend Colin on May 15, 2019, 10:49:33 PM
    Couldn't you say the same about +Thuc and the Palmarians?
    I don't see why that isn't comparable.
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    Re: Pictures of "Pope" Michael's "Ordination" and "Consecration"
    « Reply #10 on: May 16, 2019, 05:57:41 AM »
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    • Quote from: Your Friend Colin on May 15, 2019, 10:49:33 PM
    Couldn't you say the same about +Thuc and the Palmarians?
    I think Lad. was using hyperbole.
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    Re: Pictures of "Pope" Michael's "Ordination" and "Consecration"
    « Reply #11 on: May 16, 2019, 06:59:18 AM »
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    • Maybe because the Palmarians weren’t known to be batshit crazy when +Thuc consecrated them.
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    Re: Pictures of "Pope" Michael's "Ordination" and "Consecration"
    « Reply #12 on: May 16, 2019, 08:18:50 AM »
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    • Quote from: Your Friend Colin on May 15, 2019, 10:49:33 PM
    Couldn't you say the same about +Thuc and the Palmarians?

    I don't think so.  It was a priest at Econe who asked +Lefebvre to look into the Palmar situation, and +Lefebvre reportedly told them to go see +Thuc.  Perhaps there we actual preternatural activities taking place near the apparitions, and +Thuc got suckered in.  In any case he denounced them as soon as Clemente came out as "Pope".  Clemente did not come out as Pope until well after the ordinations/consecrations.  Thuc certainly should not have ordained/consecrated these untrained laymen, but I'm guessing that he bought into the fact that Our Lady was appearing there.  Heck, +Williamson believes in Garabandal, and also believed in Dawn Marie.  And we don't consider him insane so that he could not validly ordain/consecrate.  Now, if +Williamson went and ordained Dawn Marie, well, that would throw everything up into the air.
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    Re: Pictures of "Pope" Michael's "Ordination" and "Consecration"
    « Reply #13 on: May 16, 2019, 08:25:06 AM »
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    • Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on May 16, 2019, 05:57:41 AM
    I think Lad. was using hyperbole.

    Of course.  The standard/threshold for mental incapacity is that basically you would have to have no idea what you were doing, i.e., have no understanding that "I am a Catholic bishop and am consecrating this man."  It's an extremely low bar for validity.

    Now, I don't know enough about the episcopal lineage of the guy who allegedly consecrated Michael, but I have not seen ANY proof or witness testimony or anything that said ordination/consecration even took place.
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    Re: Pictures of "Pope" Michael's "Ordination" and "Consecration"
    « Reply #14 on: May 16, 2019, 10:26:31 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 16, 2019, 08:18:50 AM
    I don't think so.  It was a priest at Econe who asked +Lefebvre to look into the Palmar situation, and +Lefebvre reportedly told them to go see +Thuc.  Perhaps there we actual preternatural activities taking place near the apparitions, and +Thuc got suckered in.  In any case he denounced them as soon as Clemente came out as "Pope".  Clemente did not come out as Pope until well after the ordinations/consecrations.  Thuc certainly should not have ordained/consecrated these untrained laymen, but I'm guessing that he bought into the fact that Our Lady was appearing there.  Heck, +Williamson believes in Garabandal, and also believed in Dawn Marie.  And we don't consider him insane so that he could not validly ordain/consecrate.  Now, if +Williamson went and ordained Dawn Marie, well, that would throw everything up into the air.
    Fair enough. It seems +Thuc was very easily influenced but not mentally incompetent. 
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