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phillipines passes rh bill!- then gets slammed with a typhoon
« on: November 08, 2013, 09:49:12 AM »
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  • http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/08/world/asia/philippines-typhoon-haiyan/?hpt=hp_t1

    So, in 2012 the phillipines passed a bill to allow contraceptives and abortion. In 2013, they get slammed with the biggest typhoon in history.
    Only 4 people are confirmed dead. 720,000 injured.
    Matthew 6:34
    " Be not therefore solicitous for to morrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof."


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    « Reply #1 on: November 08, 2013, 10:12:01 AM »
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  • The justice of the Lord is terrible, and who can withstand him as judge?


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    « Reply #2 on: November 08, 2013, 11:13:23 AM »
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    I heard a news report yesterday saying the winds in this typhoon are
    over 200 MPH.  There isn't really much that's going to be left standing
    after that.  Someone said they could not push a door open from the
    inside, and someone on the outside couldn't pull the door open, and
    they were both trying at the same time.  Then the person on the
    outside suddenly was not there anymore.

    Industrial buildings in Guam are designed to face 130 - 160 MPH winds,
    but I've never heard of 200 MPH specs (but maybe there are some).  

    Reinforced concrete block walls with good foundations might be able
    to hold up, but not wood frame stucco or sheet metal on steel frame
    walls and roof.  The steel frames might be okay, but that's about it.
    Wood frame buildings would be ripped to pieces, like what happens
    with tornadoes -- which have concentrated high winds.  A typhoon is
    the same as a hurricane (just a different part of the world), where
    the high winds cover a vast area.  

    This is more like a tornado that's 100 miles wide.  

    Tall buildings covered with curtain walls would be blown wide open.  
    Facing made of 3/4" solid slabs of granite will be stripped of their
    surface and there would be chunks of granite flying through the air,
    slamming into other buildings and cars and people -- whatever they
    hit when they come down.  All the furniture inside offices and condos
    would be blown out through openings in the exterior walls.  They
    would be left with open steel frames and lots of debris everywhere,
    if not fires too, after the winds abate.  

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    phillipines passes rh bill!- then gets slammed with a typhoon
    « Reply #3 on: November 08, 2013, 11:49:50 AM »
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  • Quote from: Mama ChaCha
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/08/world/asia/philippines-typhoon-haiyan/?hpt=hp_t1

    So, in 2012 the phillipines passed a bill to allow contraceptives and abortion. In 2013, they get slammed with the biggest typhoon in history.
    Only 4 people are confirmed dead. 720,000 injured.


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    With sustained winds of 315 kph (195 mph) and gusts as strong as 380 kph (235 mph), Haiyan may be the strongest tropical cyclone to hit land anywhere in recorded history. It will take further analysis after the storm passes to establish whether it is a record.

    ...


    Maryann Zamora, a field communications specialist for the charity World Vision, said her organization "has been working through so many disasters, so many typhoons -- but this is quite different."

    "This is the strongest I ever felt so far," she said by phone from the island of Cebu.

    Category 5 strength

    Haiyan, known in the Philippines as Yolanda, retained much of its force as it moved westward with sustained winds of 295 kph (185 mph), which puts it well above the 252 kph threshold for a Category 5 hurricane, the highest category on the Saffir--Simpson hurricane wind scale.

    Video showed streets flooded with debris and sheets of metal flying through the air.

    ...


    The typhoon was forecast to move away from the Philippines late Friday or early Saturday and head into the South China Sea in the direction of Vietnam.

    Meteorologists predicted that it would maintain super typhoon intensity throughout its passage over the Philippines. A super typhoon has surface winds that sustain speeds of more than 240 kph (150 mph) for at least a minute, according to the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

    Haiyan was so large in diameter that, at one point, its clouds were affecting two-thirds of the country, which stretches more than 1,850 kilometers (1,150 miles). Tropical-storm-force winds extended 240 kilometers from the typhoon's center.

    [That means the width of this monster is 480 km, or 300 miles across.]

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    Earthquake survivors vulnerable

    Authorities warned people in provinces across the country to prepare for possible flash floods, landslides and a storm surge as high as 7 meters (23 feet). About 125,000 people nationwide were moved to evacuation centers.

    Among the most vulnerable were people living in tents on the central Philippine island of Bohol, where a 7.1-magnitude earthquake hit last month, killing at least 222 people, injuring nearly 1,000 and displacing about 350,000, according to authorities.

    On Friday, they got a second jolt -- this time from the typhoon's winds and rain, but they were spared a direct hit.

    "For the past three weeks people are still experiencing aftershocks," said Aaron Aspi, a communications specialist in Bohol for World Vision. "And at the same time, these rains are giving them a really hard time."

    Aspi said that, despite living in drenched tents, many people were afraid to relocate to sturdier structures because of the aftershocks.  



    .......... They're trying to be safe from aftershocks and so stay out of
    sturdy buildings, then living in tents isn't safe with a cyclone.  It sounds
    like living in the Philippines isn't 'safe' any way you slice it.

    So it's not just this cyclone but earthquakes and aftershocks over
    the past 11 months that have people still living in tents, now their tents
    are being blown away.  And after the wind dies down they'll be fighting
    fires.   Then the rain will come and they'll have mudslides because the
    trees have been uprooted and burned.  

    Can it get much worse?  What about disease?  There's no mention of that
    in this report.  But you know it's on the horizon.  

    So it's passing abortion laws and RU-486, then they
    get earthquakes, aftershocks, cyclones, fires,
    mudslides, flooding, and disease.  

    All that's missing is a plague of locusts and frogs,
    the ocean turning into blood and the deaths of
    all their first born, to make it the 10 plagues of
    Egypt.



    Fr. Chazal and Fr. Pfeiffer have talked about saying Mass in Bohol in their
    messages.


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    « Reply #4 on: November 10, 2013, 12:44:58 AM »
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    « Reply #5 on: November 10, 2013, 08:09:37 AM »
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  • I don't understand the idea that these storms are from God's wrath. The influential and wealthy people are usually the most protected from severe consequences. Those who have  no power, are often poor, and are dependent are usually who suffer the most.

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    « Reply #6 on: November 10, 2013, 08:25:33 AM »
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  • True, but is this not in reparation?  Our Lord said the poor are blessed.  I don't think He referred to poverty in and of itself.  When Christ died, all of nature revolted.  Darkness at midday, an earthquake.  Surely there were victims of these events who had no idea of what had transpired on Calvary.  The Protestant notion that suffering is a sign of God's condemnation is wrong.  Re-read the posts with the Catholic view in mind.  That the poor are chosen victim souls.  Tragedy takes on an entirely different light.
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

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    « Reply #7 on: November 10, 2013, 11:43:40 AM »
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  • Pray for our fellow Filipinos Brothers and Sisters that God will deliver them
    from their miseries. The recent earthquake and the typhoon.


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    « Reply #8 on: November 10, 2013, 11:47:53 PM »
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    http://www.foxnews.com/world/slideshow/2013/11/09/philippines-typhoon-leaves-trail-destruction/?intcmp=related#slide=2

    Philippines typhoon leaves trail of destruction

    One of the most powerful storms on record devastated the central Philippines, as authorities fear it killed an estimated 10,000 people in one city alone.





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    Nov. 10, 2013: The devastation caused by Typhoon Haiyan, are seen in Tacloban city, Leyte province in central Philippines. Typhoon Haiyan, one of the most powerful storms on record, slammed into six central Philippine islands on Friday, leaving a wide swath of destruction and scores of people dead.

    Source: AP






    Nov. 10, 2013: Survivors walk through the rubble of damaged homes and a ship that was washed ashore in Tacloban city, Leyte province, central Philippines. The city remains littered with debris from damaged homes as many complain of shortages of food and water and no electricity since Typhoon Haiyan slammed into their province.

    Source: AP


    Philippine Red Cross says typhoon relief
    efforts being hampered by looters


    The Philippine National Red Cross says its search and rescue efforts in the wake of a deadly typhoon -- feared to have caused a “very high number of fatalities” -- is being hampered by looters, including some who attacked trucks of food and other relief supplies the agency was shipping from a port city.

    Rescuers also faced blocked roads and damaged airports on Monday as they raced to deliver desperately needed tents, food and medicines to the typhoon-devastated eastern Philippines.

    With other rampant looting being reported, President Benigno Aquino III said Sunday that he was considering declaring a state of emergency or martial law in the hard-hit city of Tacloban, as officials have proposed. The national disaster agency can recommend such a measure if the local government is unable to carry out its functions, Aquino said.

    A state of emergency usually includes curfews, price and food supply controls, military or police checkpoints and increased security patrols.

    Aquino flew around Leyte Island by helicopter on Sunday and landed in Tacloban to get a firsthand look at the disaster. He said the government's priority was to restore power and communications in isolated areas and deliver relief and medical assistance to victims.

    Two days after Typhoon Haiyan hit the central Philippines, the death toll is feared to be rising into the thousands. As many as 10,000 people are believed dead in Tacloban, the Leyte provincial capital of 200,000 people.


    [10K out of 200K = 5% of the population in Tacloban, Leyte is feared to be dead]


    Regional police chief Elmer Soria said he was briefed by Leyte provincial Gov. Dominic Petilla late Saturday and was told that there may be 10,000  deaths in the province, mostly by drowning and from collapsed buildings. The governor's figure was based on reports from village officials in areas where the storm hit.

    Reports also trickled in from elsewhere on the island, and from neighboring islands, indicating hundreds, if not thousands more deaths, though it will be days before the full extent of the storm's impact can be assessed. About 300 to 400 bodies have already been recovered.

    A mass burial was planned Sunday in Palo town near Tacloban, which is located about 360 miles southeast of the capital of the Philippines, Manila. It was one of six islands slammed by the storm, which was one of the strongest on record to have hit the Philippines.

    Haiyan hit the eastern seaboard of the Philippine archipelago on Friday and quickly barreled across its central islands before exiting into the South China Sea, packing winds of 147 miles per hour that gusted to 170 mph, and a storm surge that caused sea waters to rise 20 feet...





    Nov. 9: Tacloban city, devastated by powerful Typhoon Haiyan, is seen in Leyte province, central Philippines. (AP)





    Nov. 9: Bodies wrapped in blankets are placed inside a damaged chapel a day after powerful Typhoon Haiyan slammed Tacloban city, in Leyte province, central Philippines. (AP)


    [That long, pointed beam coming out of the wall on the right seems
    to be part of a building that fell through the window.  On the bottom
    left the two feet of a body are seen protruding from the covering,
    partially wrapped in plastic on the wooden pew.]



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    « Reply #9 on: November 10, 2013, 11:59:57 PM »
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    This is a tropical region, so the temperature is no doubt in the
    80's (F.), so after a few days, the stench of bodies not yet
    found, buried in the debris, is going to be overwhelming.  And
    the danger of serious, contagious disease increases dramatically.

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    « Reply #10 on: November 11, 2013, 03:53:18 AM »
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  • Appeal from the Asia District:

    Society of St Pius X-District of Asia
    286 Upper Thomson Rd
    Singapore 574402
    Tel. +65 6459 0792 ; Fax. +65 6451 4020
    Email: district@sspxasia.com ; www.sspxasia.com
     
     
    Appeal for the Filipino Typhoon Yolanda victims
    November 11, 2013
     
    The Society of St Pius X of the District of Asia is making a world-wide appeal on behalf of the victims for the recent
    super-typhoon ‘Yolanda’ that has just hit the Philippines last Nov. 7-9, 2013.
     
    Described as the worst typhoon known in history, with winds reaching 330km per hour, it has had the same devastating
    effects as the tsunami of 2004. The island of Leyte, in particular, and its capital city of Tacloban have been the worst hit.
    The number of dead caused by this typhoon is estimated today at over 10,000, and is still growing by the hour. All the
    houses of this city have been severely damaged or are gone.
     
    The Society of St Pius X too has been directly affected: we have lost our Tacloban chapel and the missionary car,
    stationed at the chapel; many of our faithful have lost their houses. We do not yet know if some of our faithful have died
    in the disaster due to a complete breakdown in communications.
     
    Please come to their help! This historical typhoon has come just weeks after a 7.2 earthquake hit the Philippines, with
    its epicenter on the island of Bohol. One of our priest lost his parents’ house as a result of this quake. This appeal is
    made on the feast of the great St Martin who did come to the rescue of a poor man in need.
     
    You can help in many ways:
    First by your prayers! That all those who have been affected may have the patience and fortitude to bear this heavy
    cross. That the others may have great charity and liberality to come to their rescue.
    Then by your donations. For these, you can either go through the various districts and chapels of the Society of St Pius X
    world-wide (who will in turn pass it on to us), or send the funds directly to us in one of our various bank accounts.
     
    NOTE: in whatever way you send funds, please mention clearly: “For the Typhoon Victims”
    Also, if you send a cheque to one if these accounts, please also inform us by email, if possible.
     
     Australia : please make cheques to “The Society of St. Pius X” in AUD and send to:
    The Asian Missions, c/o 20 Robin Crescent, WOY WOY, NSW 2256 , Australia.
    
    USA : please make cheques payable to “SSPX Foreign Mission Trust – Asia” (tax deductible) in USD and send to:
    Regina Coeli House, 11485 N. Farley Road, Platte City, MO 64079, USA.
     UK : please make cheques payable to “The Society of St. Pius X” in GBP and send to:
    The Asian Missions, c/o 5 Fox Lane, Leicester LE1 1WT, U.K.
     France: please make cheques payable to “ACIM” (tax deductible) and send to:
    Dr. Jean Pierre Dickès, 2 route d’Equilhen 62360 St Etienne au Mont
     All Other Countries : please make cheques payable to “SSPX” in any currency and send to either:
    Priesterbruderschaft St.Pius X, Menzingen, 6313, Switzerland.
    or: St Pius X Priory, 286 Upper Thomson Road, Singapore 574402 Tel.:[65] 6459 0792 Fax [65] 6451 4920
    or write to us for bank details: Email: district@sspxasia.com
     
    With the assurance of our prayers and the deep gratitude of the victims.
    “Amen I say to you: as long as you did for one of these, the least of my brethren, you did it to Me.” (Mt 25:40)
     
    Fr. Daniel Couture
    District Superior
    Mother of God, pray for us sinners.


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    « Reply #11 on: November 11, 2013, 06:47:37 AM »
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  • The same group that just evicted cloistered nuns is going to help the victims?  There is so much to be done after disaster but they have time to send out a letter two days later?  I wouldn't trust them with a cent.

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    « Reply #12 on: November 11, 2013, 08:06:22 AM »
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  • Quote from: Tiffany
    The same group that just evicted cloistered nuns is going to help the victims?  There is so much to be done after disaster but they have time to send out a letter two days later?  I wouldn't trust them with a cent.




    Philippine Red Cross says typhoon relief
    efforts being hampered by looters



    Maybe the Asia District in spotless Singapore can find another
    priest or two to expel now, or maybe some cloistered nuns to
    evict, again.  That would be like "looting."


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    « Reply #13 on: November 11, 2013, 08:18:55 AM »
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  • there are other agencies we can use to give support,   :pray:

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    « Reply #14 on: November 11, 2013, 08:25:04 AM »
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  • My wife is from Palompon, Leyte, and we still haven't heard from her family. All communication is down, so it could be quite a wait. Two of her brothers live in Cebu and will be taking a ship to Palompon soon. Please pray for everyone involved.
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine