Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

« previous next »
Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5

Author Topic: Outdoor Masses: Sacrilege or Scruple?  (Read 3627 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline ByzCat3000

Re: Outdoor Masses: Sacrilege or Scruple?
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2019, 07:06:21 PM »
Quote from: Matto on August 12, 2019, 06:54:33 PM
I have questions then. Do the angels protect the particles as well during the Novus Ordo Masses, or even Black Masses, so that Our Lord is defended from sacrilegious hands even then? So that the swine think they are desecrating Our Lord but they are mistaken because he remains forever unsoiled and purer than virginal snow? But if you say that, is sacrilege even possible then? Is it all in the intention because God can never be wounded, even by our sins? But he was wounded on Calvary when he died for our sins?
I don't think his logic demands that conclusion though.  There seems to be a difference in nature between deliberate desecration, or even culpable negligence, and just God protecting us from needing to do the impossible.
Logged

Online Ladislaus

  • Supporter
Re: Outdoor Masses: Sacrilege or Scruple?
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2019, 07:34:22 PM »
Quote from: ByzCat3000 on August 12, 2019, 07:06:21 PM
I don't think his logic demands that conclusion though.  There seems to be a difference in nature between deliberate desecration, or even culpable negligence, and just God protecting us from needing to do the impossible.

Yes.  This was the position of pre-Vatican II canonists Noldin and Schmitt, that God would take care of matters on that level.

For whatever reason, God sometimes allows desecration of the Blessed Sacrament.
Logged

Offline ByzCat3000

Re: Outdoor Masses: Sacrilege or Scruple?
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2019, 07:47:35 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on August 12, 2019, 07:34:22 PM
Yes.  This was the position of pre-Vatican II canonists Noldin and Schmitt, that God would take care of matters on that level.

For whatever reason, God sometimes allows desecration of the Blessed Sacrament.
Even if I don't know exactly why, I think I can make some sense of it.

In a similar way as Hell, the ability to intentionally (or through gross negligence) desecrate the Blessed Sacrament seems like a logical consequence of free will.  Not that God *has* to allow this, by any means.  But its comparable to the Problem of Evil in a way, and just like evil is allowed (in the same sense you're talking about).

That's diifferent than allowing "desecration" for literally no purpose at all just 'cause of tiny, microscopic specks that can't be seen
Logged

Offline Viva Cristo Rey

Re: Outdoor Masses: Sacrilege or Scruple?
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2019, 09:08:01 PM »
Masses in America were held in secret locations from farm fields, factories, private homes while priest dodged bullets while traveling in disguise.  
Logged

Offline poche

Re: Outdoor Masses: Sacrilege or Scruple?
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2019, 10:52:29 PM »
Quote from: Miseremini on August 12, 2019, 02:15:41 PM
What kind of altar stone did priests use during the war when they offered Mass on the hood of a jeep?
They used a portable altar. And they had the appropriate dispensations from their ordinary.  
Logged
Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5
« previous next »