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Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification
« on: April 01, 2019, 05:51:22 PM »
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    • I found this at Suscipe Domine.

    Maria del Buen Suceso de la Purification (Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification)
     appeared to Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres in Quito, Ecuador and requested to be called by that title. It is incorrect to call her Our Lady of Good Success.
     
     Clarification on the Title "Buen Suceso of the Purification"
     https://www.nuestrasenoradelbuensucesodelapurificacion.com/clarification-on-the-title
     
     Clarification on the Title "Buen Suceso of the Purification" is also explained by SSPX priest
     
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    Re: Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification
    « Reply #1 on: April 01, 2019, 06:42:46 PM »
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    • The proper title is Our Lady of Good Success. This is not a quibble, the reason the name was changed is significant.

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    Re: Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification
    « Reply #2 on: April 01, 2019, 07:13:12 PM »
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    Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification
    The priest from the SSPX that is leading this name change folly,  does not say to call her "Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification" as the OP has seen fit to declare. I just noticed that the OP, Cera, is a woman. Now it all makes sense. Cera, it is time for you to be silent.  


    Instructions to Women
    In like manner women also in decent apparel: adorning themselves with modesty and sobriety, not with plaited hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly attire, But as it becometh women professing godliness, with good works. Let the woman learn in silence, with all subjection.  But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to use authority over the man: but to be in silence.  For Adam was first formed; then Eve.  And Adam was not seduced; but the woman being seduced, was in the transgression.  Yet she shall be saved through childbearing; if she continue in faith, and love, and sanctification, with sobriety. ( 1Tim 2:9-15 )
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    Re: Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification
    « Reply #3 on: April 01, 2019, 07:13:26 PM »
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    Re: Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification
    « Reply #4 on: April 01, 2019, 07:24:16 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on April 01, 2019, 05:51:22 PM
    I found this at Suscipe Domine.

    Maria del Buen Suceso de la Purification (Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification)
     appeared to Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres in Quito, Ecuador and requested to be called by that title. It is incorrect to call her Our Lady of Good Success.
     
    What a mess, they should call me when they get their act together and decide what they want to call her. Our Lady did not say Maria del Buen Suceso de la Purification, and that tiltle does not translate to Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification. Calling the Blessed Mother, Maria or Mary is totally Novus Ordo. Imagine calling queen Elizabeth, Elizabeth or Queen Isabela, Isabela. 

    Our Lady of Lourdes said she was The Immaculate Conception. Our Lady of Fatima said she was The Lady of the Rosary.  

    What morons, they think they invented sliced bread. While they are at it, why don't they start a drive to start calling Spain, Espana, and Germany Deutschland.
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    Re: Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification
    « Reply #5 on: April 01, 2019, 11:58:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on April 01, 2019, 07:13:12 PM
    The priest from the SSPX that is leading this name change folly,  does not say to call her "Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification" as the OP has seen fit to declare. I just noticed that the OP, Cera, is a woman. Now it all makes sense. Cera, it is time for you to be silent.  


    Instructions to Women
    In like manner women also in decent apparel: adorning themselves with modesty and sobriety, not with plaited hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly attire, But as it becometh women professing godliness, with good works. Let the woman learn in silence, with all subjection.  But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to use authority over the man: but to be in silence.  For Adam was first formed; then Eve.  And Adam was not seduced; but the woman being seduced, was in the transgression.  Yet she shall be saved through childbearing; if she continue in faith, and love, and sanctification, with sobriety. ( 1Tim 2:9-15 )
    :jester: Woman... speakest thou not!
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    Re: Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification
    « Reply #6 on: April 02, 2019, 12:33:09 AM »
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    • It was Our Lady of Good Help (Notre Dame de Bon Seccour) who saved New Orleans from the British.  
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    Re: Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification
    « Reply #7 on: April 02, 2019, 06:22:04 PM »
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    • It's slightly amusing that TFP/TIA laity who consider themselves superior to priests, (who, let us not forget, are chosen by God to bring heaven to earth); find no problem lecturing others on proper authority.
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    Re: Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification
    « Reply #8 on: April 02, 2019, 06:53:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on April 02, 2019, 06:22:04 PM
    It's slightly amusing that TFP/TIA laity who consider themselves superior to priests, (who, let us not forget, are chosen by God to bring heaven to earth); find no problem lecturing others on proper authority.
    Perfect example of why men should never debate with women. Men can teach women, if a woman inquires and has the proper disposition, but never debate with a woman.
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    Re: Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification
    « Reply #9 on: April 02, 2019, 07:07:29 PM »
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    Re: Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification
    « Reply #10 on: April 02, 2019, 07:24:08 PM »
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    • The original title in Spanish that they state in the letter attached of "Nuestra Senora del Buen Suceso de la Purificacion", would never be translated to English as Our Lady of Buen Suceso of the Purification, that is not English, it is Spanglish, it is not a complete translation. Only someone who does not speak English would sign such an order. These people have not thought this out very well, it is a mess.

    Good luck spreading the apparition of "Our Lady of Buen Suceso of the Purification" in English speaking countries! Some people just have to learn the hard way.
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    Re: Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification
    « Reply #11 on: April 02, 2019, 11:08:10 PM »
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    • So "Our Lady of Good Success" is accurate?  This whole thread is confusing.
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    Re: Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification
    « Reply #12 on: April 03, 2019, 09:25:54 AM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on April 02, 2019, 11:08:10 PM
    So "Our Lady of Good Success" is accurate?  
    It has been for 30+ years in English speaking countries.  

    Just like Spain and Germany are accurate in English speaking countries but Spain calls itself Espana, and Germany calls itself Deutschland and there are thousands upon thousands of other such examples. The devotion was spread throughout the United States during the last 30+ years as Our Lady of Good Success.

    Now a priest has decided that it is inaccurate and wants to change it to Our Lady of the Buen Suceso of the Purification. This effort will go the way of the French Revolutions change of the months to 5 weeks of 6 days and changing the name of the days of week. Some people like so much to have a cause, that they invent their own.  
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    Re: Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification
    « Reply #13 on: April 03, 2019, 01:15:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on April 02, 2019, 11:08:10 PM
    So "Our Lady of Good Success" is accurate?  This whole thread is confusing.

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    Re: Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification
    « Reply #14 on: April 03, 2019, 01:21:20 PM »
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    • As shown by the July 1, 1917 docuмent signed by the sisters in charge of the apparition site, Our Lady was quite clear about the title by which she chose to be called. It is not "Our Lady of Good Success;" that was an error in translation. This is explained in exquisite detail in the previously posted video given by the priest who gives pilgrimages to the holy site.

    The problem is the the PRIDE of TFP and their sister organization TIA was wounded when TFP laymen were replaced by Catholic priests to be in charge of the chapel. Anti-clericalism and an elevation of the importance of the laity are at the core of both TFP and TIA. TIA has repeatedly attacked Traditional Catholic priests, a Bishops, a Cardinal and a Saint.
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