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Offline SeanJohnson

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Our Lady of La Salette and Archbishop Lefebvre
« on: June 10, 2012, 06:39:18 PM »
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  • I am not overly familiar with this apparition, but had heard on the one hand that Our Lady had prophesied things that strongly suggest the emergence of Archbishop Lefebvre.

    On the other hand, i had also heard that the Vatican did not approve those parts.

    Can anyone clarify the official and final  position of Rome in this matter?
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    « Reply #1 on: June 10, 2012, 07:01:13 PM »
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  • I think you are referring to Our Lady of Good Success who prophesied that a prelate would keep tradition alive during the time of heresy.  It's commonly believed to be Archbishop Lefebvre but not officially declared.  That apparition was approved and remains so to this day.  Marian Horvat wrote a very good translation of the Spanish priest's story of the events.

    I do not recall La Salette making such a reference to a priest.  It was pretty much a warning that Rome would lose the faith and become the seat of the Antichrist.  For this reason it is discredited by the modernists.  However, during the time of Paul VI a satanic enthronement ceremony was performed in his chapel (note- I am not certain of the exact location).  This is well known and accepted among today's exorcists.  About a year or two ago some priests in the Vatican reconsecrated the chapel.  I am told the exorcists noted an immediate shift in the time it took to liberate individuals.  They are still working on the chapel.  The problem is not eliminated yet.

    Now, you can interpret the La Salette prophecy in that way and/or in terms of the papacy.  If, and I said IF, the post VII popes are Freemasons then that would be a fulfillment of the La Salette prophecy as well.  

    Losing the Traditional Faith and embracing the One World Religion could be another interpretation.

    La Salette was approved by the local French bishop.  The seer Melanie had a very difficult and troubled life which some try to use to discredit the apparitions.  In the early 1900s two versions of the events were floating around and I believe one version was condemned.  Now I could be wrong and the apparition itself could have been temporarily condemned and then restored.  I am not certain.  It is today a valid apparition.

    Remember also that the Third Secret of Fatima basically states that the Great Apostasy will begin at the top.  So, all the same message repeated over centuries in hopes we would get it.  Today's Rome doesn't like to talk about these apparitions for obvious reasons.
    For it is written: I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be dispersed. Matthew 26:31


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    « Reply #2 on: June 10, 2012, 07:27:39 PM »
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  • I found a reprint of a 1962 hand Missal in a Catholic gift shop once (I forgot the publisher) that had an appendix containing, amongst other things, the proper Mass formulary for the feast of Our Lady of Salette, whose official title is Reconciliatrix peccatorum. It had no information about when and how the Feast was established.
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    « Reply #3 on: June 10, 2012, 07:29:50 PM »
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  • Anyways, here are some images of Our Lady of Salette.






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    « Reply #4 on: June 10, 2012, 07:31:07 PM »
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  • Here is some information and approved prayers.






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    « Reply #5 on: June 10, 2012, 10:18:19 PM »
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  • I had some friends who came to America from Croatia, and they told me about their pilgrimage to La Salette, France before they came here. They said that the garments and Jєωelry of Our Lady of La Salette are indigenous for the region, that she was presenting herself as a royal princess or a queen.

    Note that the golden necklace she wears suspends a large crucifix which has the implements of the Crucifixion on the two sides: a hammer on one side and nippers that were used to hold the nails or to remove them after the deed was completed. These are depicted as well in the icon of Our Mother of Perpetual Help, but there the centurion's lance and the sponge with vinegar are shown.

    Many apparitions of Our Lady worldwide have her looking like a queen from that locality where she appears. This element ties all the apparitions together, and also provides us with testimony to God's regard for the principle of queenship and legitimate royalty.

    It might be interesting for some readers to know that at AQ in the past (probably still is going on there from the comments made about it) anyone who posted that "Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the Antichrist" had to repent and abjure his "error" or get the big ax.

    That one thing was the key sentence that was so controversial with the Modernists who conspired to "ban" the apparition texts of La Salette for a time in the previous century.

    Since all the approved Marian apparitions of the past 400 years have basically followed a common pattern in regards to the message for the world, it logically follows that the Third Secret of Fatima must have something in it that is even more disturbing and shocking than Rome becoming the seat of the Antichrist, if that is imaginable. Perhaps it is an explanation of how that's even possible, or the consequence to the lives of the Faithful that results.

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    « Reply #6 on: June 10, 2012, 10:39:42 PM »
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  • Here is a good wibsite on "Our Lady of La Salette" and how it is related to
    the issues of our times.

    RomanCatholicImperialist.org

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    « Reply #7 on: June 10, 2012, 10:43:44 PM »
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  • The unique cross of La Salette:





    I find it noteworthy that there are a lot of images available that show
    the two implements on the cross, or near it, but they have no corpus of Our Lord:



    The apparition of La Salette most definitely included Jesus on the cross.
    It is a practice of Protestants to have a cross without a corpus, and then
    following this error logically, as one becomes less and less Christian,
    eventually the mere sight of a bare cross becomes "offensive."
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    « Reply #8 on: June 11, 2012, 06:44:02 AM »
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  • I notice in the last image, with the empty Crucifix, Our Lady seems to be smiling.  Where are her tears???  Where is this image, because it is completely diabolical.  

    I have been reading and Bishop Williamson says that the devil uses Our Lady to accomplish his evil deeds.  He distorts her visions because the faithful love Her so much.  

    This last image made me think of that.

    Compare that image to this one.  This is the full size image.

    Or this one.

    And this one.


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    « Reply #9 on: June 11, 2012, 07:06:25 PM »
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  • Thank you CathMomof7, for pointing that out.

    I snagged that off a page of images, you can get it by typing Our Lady of La Salette in Google and click on "Images" in the top tool bar area.

    It showed up near the bottom of the page. Right click on it or on the picture you get after you left click on the index thubnail and you can get page source information or the website it comes from.

    No tears, no corpus, the cross is wooden (not gold) and there's no chain, she has obvious mascara and eyeliner (Our Lady doesn't need any makeup), she's wearing a garland of roses and she has a bizarre smirk on her lips. I wouldn't even call it a smile.

    The reason I chose this image was, it shows a detail of the hammer and nippers that I was talking about.

    Oh, and one last thing:

    How do I know Our Lady doesn't wear makeup?

    Because, whenever she's seen crying, if she had on mascara,

    IT WOULD BE RUNNING!




    (isn't it nice the way everything fits together when it's the truth you're dealing with?)
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    « Reply #10 on: June 11, 2012, 07:49:38 PM »
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  • Quote from: CathMomof7
    I notice in the last image, with the empty Crucifix, Our Lady seems to be smiling.  Where are her tears???  Where is this image, because it is completely diabolical.  

    I have been reading and Bishop Williamson says that the devil uses Our Lady to accomplish his evil deeds.  He distorts her visions because the faithful love Her so much.  

    This last image made me think of that.

    Compare that image to this one.  This is the full size image.

    Or this one.

    And this one.



    I completely agree, CathMom. The last image disturbed me the split-second I saw it. No Corpus Christi on the Cross; and the facial expression looks subtly evil.  The image looks like an advertisement for Max Factor mascara. What Bishop/priest would allow this image to exist in his diocese/parish?  
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)


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    « Reply #11 on: June 11, 2012, 07:59:06 PM »
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    ...However, during the time of Paul VI a satanic enthronement ceremony was performed in his chapel (note- I am not certain of the exact location).  This is well known and accepted among today's exorcists.  About a year or two ago some priests in the Vatican reconsecrated the chapel.  I am told the exorcists noted an immediate shift in the time it took to liberate individuals.  They are still working on the chapel.  The problem is not eliminated yet.....


    Fr. Malachi Martin (who himself had a checkered past) reported that the enthronement of Satan was conducted at a side altar in St. Peter's Basilica with a telephone connection to a cathedral in the US where the sɛҳuąƖ assault on a young girl was conducted simultaneously.

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    « Reply #12 on: June 11, 2012, 08:01:43 PM »
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    Here is some information and approved prayers.








    Thank you for these. In all my years of devotion to Our Lady of LaSalette I had never come upon these. Thank you!

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    « Reply #13 on: June 11, 2012, 08:19:58 PM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
    I had some friends who came to America from Croatia, and they told me about their pilgrimage to La Salette, France before they came here. They said that the garments and Jєωelry of Our Lady of La Salette are indigenous for the region, that she was presenting herself as a royal princess or a queen.

    Note that the golden necklace she wears suspends a large crucifix which has the implements of the Crucifixion on the two sides: a hammer on one side and nippers that were used to hold the nails or to remove them after the deed was completed. These are depicted as well in the icon of Our Mother of Perpetual Help, but there the centurion's lance and the sponge with vinegar are shown.



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    « Reply #14 on: June 12, 2012, 09:54:32 AM »
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  • Quote from: Diego

    http:/ /lasalette-shrine. org/store/images/lasalette/JCHP1672K.jpg


    The Attleboro, MA National Shrine of La Salette online bookstore is presently undergoing maintenance.

    But the crucifix is very interesting. Thanks!

    It appears they used a macro lens to get about 8 inches away from the crucifix to get that shot. That's why you can see all the detail.
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