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« on: April 07, 2013, 11:18:27 AM »
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  • The apparitions at Knock were very interesting in they were in complete silence. A symbolic apparition representing the silence of the Truth since Vatican II. And now we re live those times again and the message of Knock with the silence of SSPX priests!

    Read the Knock seer's testimonies here: http://ourladysresistance.org/uploads/3/2/1/9/3219384/our_lady_of_knock_testimonies.pdf


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    « Reply #1 on: April 07, 2013, 02:03:46 PM »
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  • Those accounts were fascinating. I had not known much about the Knock apparitions. Have there been others where the figure did not speak or move but was rather more like an image? It sounds almost like a hologram.


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    « Reply #2 on: April 07, 2013, 03:44:32 PM »
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  • Of course it was at Knock Shrine that Cardinal Burke told Fr Bierer SSPX to "keep up the good work".  This could of course be a rumour.

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    « Reply #3 on: April 07, 2013, 03:52:39 PM »
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  • I have a handwritten note written by the late Deirdre Manifold on her thoughts regarding Knock. A few years ago I attended a talk that Fr Gruner and Fr Kramer gave, and Deirdre spoke also. She spoke in relation to Knock Shrine and Fatima.

    Deirdre used to organise all night prayer vigils at Knock which concluded with the Traditional Mass. She was about 94 when she stopped driving her car but continued going for a year or so after (someone provided her with a lift) until I think the time she got the hospital bug. So about 2009.

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    « Reply #4 on: April 07, 2013, 07:14:54 PM »
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  • I knew nothing of Knock til Irish colleagues duly informed me back in 1976. Seems a painting was done soon after the Apparitions. My recollections are hazy so please correct me if you see fit.
    Post/holy cards of this picture were the principle source of devotion back in 1976. I have been looking for a copy but surprise, surprise you can't even find it at the official website.
    Even in todays terms, and indeed for this website, it is very controversial indeed.
    The Apparition was in silence.
    Our Lady held her hands as a Priest would saying Mass. The official site shows a statue of Our Lady in this stance.
    St. Joseph to Her right and St. John to her left. Both were inclining towards Our Lady.
    Now this is where my memory fails me badly. I believe St. Joseph also had his hands in this priestly stance whilst St. John had his hands held together in homage. I may be wrong on this.
    Should anyone be able to find this pic it would be enlightening.


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    « Reply #5 on: April 07, 2013, 08:02:03 PM »
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  • This article was fascinating to read.  I am desperate to find an analysis/interpretation of the vision.  It's so hard to know what it means.

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    « Reply #6 on: April 07, 2013, 08:47:57 PM »
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  • One interpretation I recall reading years back summed it up as an image, from a human view, of consolation for the persecution inflicted on the Irish who remained faithful despite all the protestants did to exterminate them.

    Thus, the sacrificial Lamb on the altar to which each believer was united in the Holy Sacrifice.  

    From a supernatural perspective, the Holy Sacrifice, the classical orans posture of the Blessed Virgin, before Whom St. Joseph defers in the order of grace by his own dignified posture, inclined toward Her as Mediatrix, and St. John's dual presentation of Apostolic and Scriptural authority all reinforce the reality of the Church's true ecclesiological essences: sacrificial priesthood, teaching authority, intercessory efficacy.

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    « Reply #7 on: April 07, 2013, 09:04:16 PM »
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  • Our Lady of Knock has been a great inspiration to the Irish people.



    Francis is an Antipope. Pray that God will grant us a good Pope and save the Church.
    I abjure and retract my schismatic support of the evil CMRI.Thuc condemned the Thuc nonbishops
    "Now, therefore, we declare, say, determine and pronounce that for every human creature it is necessary for salvation to be subject to the authority of the Roman Pontiff"-Pope Boniface VIII.
    If you think Francis is Pope,do you treat him like an Antipope?
    Pastor Aeternus, and the Council of Trent Sessions XXIII and XXIV


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    « Reply #8 on: April 07, 2013, 09:16:31 PM »
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  • Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant
    Those accounts were fascinating. I had not known much about the Knock apparitions. Have there been others where the figure did not speak or move but was rather more like an image? It sounds almost like a hologram.


    Yes, It was fascinating to read the account of these historical figures who were blessed to be there and see what they saw!

    Also, lets not forget prophetic role Our Lady has taken in the last couple of centuries. This apparition no doubt is giving a message. A message of the future silencing of the Catholic Church and the Mass. Of course, God has dual meanings to this apparitoin as only He can do.

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    « Reply #9 on: April 07, 2013, 10:08:12 PM »
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  • What is the point of a apparition/message from God if no one is sure what it means?

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    « Reply #10 on: April 07, 2013, 10:27:24 PM »
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  • While St John the Evangelist in the vision has been interpreted is that
    the Church is entering the last ages and that the apocalypse, in which
    St John the Evangelist is said to authored. Means that we are entering
    the last days before the Second coming of our Lord and the Last
    judgment.
    This is what I was taught in the meaning of Our Lady of Knock.
    This is the only sensible explanation.


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    « Reply #11 on: April 08, 2013, 01:51:09 AM »
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  • Our Lady of Knock has had a great influence on the Irish.




    Francis is an Antipope. Pray that God will grant us a good Pope and save the Church.
    I abjure and retract my schismatic support of the evil CMRI.Thuc condemned the Thuc nonbishops
    "Now, therefore, we declare, say, determine and pronounce that for every human creature it is necessary for salvation to be subject to the authority of the Roman Pontiff"-Pope Boniface VIII.
    If you think Francis is Pope,do you treat him like an Antipope?
    Pastor Aeternus, and the Council of Trent Sessions XXIII and XXIV

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    « Reply #12 on: April 08, 2013, 01:53:54 AM »
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  • Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
    While St John the Evangelist in the vision has been interpreted is that
    the Church is entering the last ages and that the apocalypse, in which
    St John the Evangelist is said to authored. Means that we are entering
    the last days before the Second coming of our Lord and the Last
    judgment.
    This is what I was taught in the meaning of Our Lady of Knock.
    This is the only sensible explanation.


    The unusual thing I find reading the reports is that after some people saw the images, they only seemed to stay for ten or twenty minutes and then some of them seemed to just walk on about their daily business. One of them, didn't seem to even tell her friend what she saw... I'd imagine I'd be prostrated face down in the dirt if Our Lady appeared before me, at least for a couple of hours....
    "When human beings have been brutalised by impurity, they will allow themselves to be enslaved without making any attempt to react." ~ Fr. Fahey


    Ut sciat omnis in terra quia est Deus in Israel!

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    « Reply #13 on: April 14, 2013, 02:42:50 PM »
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  • An article by the late Deirdre Manifold. It featured in Issue 26/ June 2008 of The Hibernian Magazine.

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    « Reply #14 on: April 15, 2013, 06:17:50 AM »
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  • As usual, Iuvenalis comes up with a penetrating question!  


    Quote from: Iuvenalis
    What is the point of a apparition/message from God if no one is sure what it means?



    How many times have we heard that Knock has been influential or popular or
    highly regarded in Ireland?  

    Okay, so if it's so popular, what is its significance?  

    Okay, if it's so highly regarded, in terms of what is it in high regard?

    Okay, if it has been influential, then what has been its influence?


    There is a problem with the apparition of Knock -- and the operative word
    is WHAT?


    We are missing something, and Knock is a standing prophesy of our
    abiding state of missing something.  But what is that something???

    What is missing?  

    It seems to me that there is a lot missing, and Knock is there telling us
    that a day would soon come when a lot would be missing.  

    What's missing?  

    Fatima happened in 1917, which was 38 years after Knock.  But 38 years
    after Fatima is 1955, the year that Bugnini started implementing his
    changes in the Mass that would eventually nearly destroy it.  

    At Fatima, the Third Secret was given to the children, two of whom died
    soon after, and the one who survived had great trouble writing it down in
    1942 and 1943.  It was committed to paper, but to this day, now 70 years
    later, we still don't know what Our Lady's words were, words that tell us
    the meaning of the vision that Sister Lucia described, in the description
    that was released in the year 2000.

    What's missing?  The meaning of the vision at Fatima is missing and the
    meaning of the vision at Knock is missing.  Could it be the same meaning?
    For after all, it is the same messenger -- The Blessed Virgin Mary.

    Could it be that the meaning of Knock is one and the same as the content
    of the Third Secret of Fatima?  

    I think it is.  That's what.


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