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Our Lady's apparations to Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres
« on: June 01, 2019, 06:13:36 PM »
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    Re: Our Lady's apparations to Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres
    « Reply #1 on: June 01, 2019, 07:20:09 PM »
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    • SSPX "Dutch Branding" creates Fr. Purdy's media campaign on the proper use of Spanish.


                  Neo-trad cult members gather to hear the charismatic New Yorker
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    Re: Our Lady's apparations to Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres
    « Reply #2 on: June 01, 2019, 07:42:58 PM »
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    • Will Fr. Purdy mention Mother Mariana's prophecy about the TFP?  :-\
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    Re: Our Lady's apparations to Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres
    « Reply #3 on: June 01, 2019, 11:35:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: Markus on June 01, 2019, 07:42:58 PM
    Will Fr. Purdy mention Mother Mariana's prophecy about the TFP?  :-\


    That's doubtful TFP history and possibly part of a propaganda plot?    Besides, the "Crisis in the Church" is over.

    According to Fr. Wegner's letters to the faithful" vision, the holy SSPX, is destined to save Catholicism.

    But it comes at a high price. And to do it, they need to suck $millions from their Conciliar approved, chapel franchises.

    Only by this means will souls be saved and peace will come to the world.
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    Re: Our Lady's apparations to Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres
    « Reply #4 on: June 02, 2019, 05:57:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: Markus on June 01, 2019, 07:42:58 PM
    Will Fr. Purdy mention Mother Mariana's prophecy about the TFP?  :-\
    Father Purdy is probably not aware of the personal delusions of Atila et al.
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    Re: Our Lady's apparations to Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres
    « Reply #5 on: June 02, 2019, 06:40:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on June 02, 2019, 05:57:06 PM
    Father Purdy is probably not aware of the personal delusions of Atila et al.

    "Trad granny", while you claim to be a retired professor,  your posts have convinced us you're definitely not a scholar.
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    Re: Our Lady's apparations to Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres
    « Reply #6 on: June 07, 2019, 07:04:18 PM »
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    Re: Our Lady's apparations to Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres
    « Reply #7 on: June 07, 2019, 09:32:41 PM »
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    • According to this Priest "Success" is not the correct translation of "Suceso" but the Real Academia Española say the opposite.  I think this priest doesn't know well his Spanish. Besides, there are many Marian Advocations that were translate to English and even translated in different ways (Like Our Lady of Perpetual Help / Our Lady of Perpetual Succor). To force people to say "Senhora del buen suceso" is ridiculous, and because is difficult to presume that he is ignorant, I would rather think that there is another intention here. Anyway, why we just don't call Christ "Jeshua" or St. Peter "St. Kēphâs"? etc. etc.
       
           
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    Re: Our Lady's apparations to Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres
    « Reply #8 on: June 08, 2019, 12:11:43 AM »
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    • Oh, knowing the Spanish language doesn't matter!

    Father looks good in that long cassock and his trad groupies swoon and go into a trance when he speaks.

    It doesn't matter if the content of what he says is untrue, it's just how he postures and smiles when he speaks that matters.
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    Re: Our Lady's apparations to Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres
    « Reply #9 on: June 08, 2019, 01:24:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on June 08, 2019, 12:11:43 AM

    Oh, knowing the Spanish language doesn't matter!

    Father looks good in that long cassock and his trad groupies swoon and go into a trance when he speaks.

    It doesn't matter if the content of what he says is untrue, it's just how he postures and smiles when he speaks that matters.
    Please give a specific example of something said by Father Purdy which is untrue. BTW, an opinion which differs from that of your guru is just that: a differing opinion.
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    Re: Our Lady's apparations to Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres
    « Reply #10 on: June 08, 2019, 01:36:36 PM »
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    • There's nothing in the life of Our Lord that is just an "event" (as many modernists say: "Events in the Life of the Historical Jesus" https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0802866131/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0802866131&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20 ) . Everything is important, everything is a Success. 
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    Re: Our Lady's apparations to Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres
    « Reply #11 on: June 08, 2019, 02:29:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on June 08, 2019, 01:24:25 PM
    Please give a specific example of something said by Father Purdy which is untrue. BTW, an opinion which differs from that of your guru is just that: a differing opinion.

    Cera,

    Thanks for the opportunity to let me explain to our forum readers :cheers:

    Fr. Purdy admits in the videos that he doesn't know Spanish and that he's not a scholar.
    So how does he pull-off a Quito-TFP overthrow campaign?

    He was obviously he was put-up to doing it.

    Fr. Wegner oversees Fr. Purdy. They collaborated and bought influence with Quito's Novus ordo bishop.
    (BTW we've caught Fr. Wegner meeting with several US Novus ordo bishops on the sly, so this fits his MO).

    Jade Liboro reports to Fr. Purdy.  She's and agent for the SSPX.
    She was provided access to the convent (by the bribed bishop) and has bribed and influenced the Nuns, to change the devotion to Our Lady of Good Success.

    In conclusion, the whole SSPX Quito infiltration is based on lies.
    And almost every utterance coming out of Fr. Purdy's mouth on this subject is untrue.
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    Re: Our Lady's apparations to Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres
    « Reply #12 on: June 09, 2019, 08:30:35 AM »
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    • Our Lady has a history of migrating. She came across the sea from Spain as Our Lady of Guadalupe (Extremadura) and Our Lady of Good Success (Madrid), and Columbus discovered the Americas on the feast day of Our Lady of the Pillar (first ever apparition). If we were overly concerned about translating directly whatever Juan Diego might have heard in Nahuatl, instead of the obvious phonetic solution, things would be far different. The thing is... what is the significance of translating all of this into English?

    When the treaty was signed to end the Mexican-American War, it was signed in front of the Basilica of Our Lady of Guadalupe on the Feast of the Purification/Presentation/Our Lady of Good Success. Only 9 days before, the first nuggets of gold were discovered in California. Over the course of a few decades, most of the Californian mission properties that had been taken from the Church by the land secularization act in the 1820s was returned to her. The US has been the most fertile places for traditional Catholicism right up there with France and pre-revolutionary France was instrumental in our country's bid for independence. Lafayette did his best to try to protect King Louis when everything blew up over there.

    Maybe there is a Marian manifest destiny for this country and we haven't just seen what we were really made to be yet. If Fr. Purdy and Ms. Liboro could let Our Lady out of the restrictive langage box they've designed for her, they might see a bigger picture. I'm not as concerned with their understanding of Spanish as I am with the restrictive way they are treating  "success" in English. It isn't necessarily a vulgar or worldly thing to have, it's just that most worldly people have a far different idea of what success means for them. Success for traditional Catholics ought to mean no less than victory for the Church, the Faith, and in the cultivation of all virtues. The key here is spiritual success, and we need it now more than ever.
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    Re: Our Lady's apparations to Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres
    « Reply #13 on: June 09, 2019, 09:44:34 PM »
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    • Excellent answer Croixalist.  :applause: I appreciate the equanimity of your arguments. 
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    Re: Our Lady's apparations to Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres
    « Reply #14 on: June 10, 2019, 04:34:24 PM »
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    • Thanks for the compliment! I try to stick to the point since I know I'm as likely to disagree with alot of you folks on some subjects as much as I may agree with you on others. Except for Pfeifferville... I still tend to go nuclear on that subject, lol.

    Stash some of that good will for the next time we might get into a dispute. I know I will! 
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