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Offline Trinity

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« on: June 29, 2007, 11:49:46 AM »
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  • What words are kosher or not, why or why not?

    I don't have a real problem with vulgarities, but blasphemy is out, out, out.  Now it comes to my attention that there may be more blasphemies out there than I was aware of.  I hope the whole community chips in on this one so we can gather a consensus.
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    « Reply #1 on: June 29, 2007, 12:06:23 PM »
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  • Minced Oaths taken from
    http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/minced-oath.html

    The English, being a restrained lot, have a long list of euphemistic phrases, many of which became part of the language before it spread to other parts of the world. The root cause of these is a wish to communicate without being explicit. This is something the English are particularly fond of, hence their long tradition of double-entendre comedy.

    Euphemisms aren't all from the distant past though. For every Shakesperian 'beast with two backs' there's a 20th century 'knee trembler'.

    Minced oaths are a sub-group of euphemisms used to avoid swearing when expressing surprise or annoyance. If you hit your thumb with a hammer when great aunt Edith is in the room what do you say? It's probably going to be a minced oath. Shakespeare might have resorted to 'gadzooks' (God's hooks - referring to the nails in the cross), we might try 'shoot' or 'freaking heck'.

    They are usually, although not exclusively, religious in nature and date from the days when it wasn't acceptable to use the name of God, Jesus or other religious notables in everyday speech. To mince your words, or mince matters, means to choose words so as not to offend anyone. Some example are 'Jiminy Cricket' (Jesus Christ), 'dagnamit' (God damn it'), 'for Pete's sake' (for St. Peter's sake).

    It's interesting that, while we continue to generate new euphemisms, new minced oaths are few and far between. Perhaps that's because, while there are still taboos about discussing death, disability, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity etc, the restrictions on swearing out loud when surprised or annoyed have slackened somewhat.

    Begorrah --> By God
    Bejabbers --> By Jesus
    Bleeding heck --> Bloody Hell
    Blimey --> Blind me
    Blinking heck --> Bloody Hell
    By George --> By God
    By golly --> By God's body
    By gosh --> By God
    By gum --> By God
    By Jove --> By God
    Cheese and Rice --> Jesus Christ
    Chrissakes --> For Christ's sake
    Christmas --> Christ
    Cor blimey --> God blind me
    Crikey --> Christ
    Criminy --> Christ
    Cripes --> Christ
    Crivvens --> Christ defend us
    Dad gum --> God damn
    Dagnabbit --> God damn it
    Dagnammit --> God damn it
    Dang --> Damn
    Dangnabbit --> God damn it
    Dangnation --> Damnation
    Darn --> Damn
    Darnation --> Damnation
    Doggone --> God damn
    Drat --> God rot it
    Egad --> A God
    Figs --> Fuck
    Fink --> Fuck
    Flaming heck --> Fucking Hell
    Flipping heck --> Fucking Hell
    For crying out loud --> For Christ's sake
    For Pete's sake --> For St. Peter's sake
    For the love of Mike --> For St. Michael's sake
    Freaking --> fucking
    Gadzooks --> God's hooks
    Gat Dangit --> God damn it
    Gee --> Jesus
    Gee whizz --> Jesus
    Gee willikers --> Jesus
    Godfrey Daniel --> God
    Golly Gee willikers --> Jesus
    Good garden party --> Good God
    Good grief --> Good God
    Goodness gracious --> Good God
    Gorblimey --> God blind me
    Gosh --> God
    Gosh darned --> God damned
    Heck --> Hell
    Holy spit --> Holy shit
    Jason Crisp --> Jesus Christ
    Jebus --> Jesus
    Jeepers Creepers --> Jesus Christ
    Jeez --> Jesus
    Jeezy Creezy --> Jesus Christ
    Jehoshaphat --> Jesus
    Jiminy Christmas --> Jesus Christ
    Jiminy Cricket --> Jesus Christ
    Judas Priest --> Jesus Christ
    Jumping Jehoshaphat --> Jumping Jesus
    Land sakes --> For the Lord's sake
    Lawks a mercy --> Lord have mercy
    My goodness --> My God
    My gosh --> My God
    Odds-bodkins --> God's sweet body
    Sacré bleu --> Sang de Dieu (God's blood)
    Sam Hill --> Hell
    Shoot --> shit
    Shucks --> shit
    Strewth --> God's Truth
    Suffering succotash --> Suffering Saviour
    Sugar --> shit
    Tarnation --> Damnation
    What in Sam Hill? --> What in damn Hell?
    Wish to goodness --> Wish to God
    Zounds --> God's wounds


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    « Reply #2 on: June 29, 2007, 12:26:45 PM »
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  • Oh, boy, the plot thickens.  Let's try another twist, just using this list.  Which among these would constitute blasphemy?
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    « Reply #3 on: June 29, 2007, 12:29:40 PM »
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    « Reply #4 on: June 30, 2007, 09:06:55 AM »
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  • This does seem to be a hot topic.  If one substitutes one word for another, is the substitute the same as the other?
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    « Reply #5 on: June 30, 2007, 04:24:23 PM »
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  • Unfortunately, I would think it's the intention of the person using the phrase which would determine that. If a substitute is used knowing what the original term is, then it's no better than the original. But, many of those on this list are quite foreign to me and I wouldn't fault anyone for using a phrase they've learned innocently enough. I think I'll be reading through this list a few more times so I can think twice before using them.
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    « Reply #6 on: June 30, 2007, 05:15:21 PM »
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  • My take is this, Mater.  We seem to need expletives---they sure pop out, anyway.  From the list above I begin to wonder if anything can't be connected to the divine in some way.  At any rate, one can hardly feel safe using any ejaculation in surprise.  I have often used God Bless America!  and Good Griffinhoppers.  Are we getting scrupulous?
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    « Reply #7 on: June 30, 2007, 05:45:43 PM »
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    « Reply #8 on: June 30, 2007, 11:44:11 PM »
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  • Quote from: Trinity
    My take is this, Mater.  We seem to need expletives---they sure pop out, anyway.  From the list above I begin to wonder if anything can't be connected to the divine in some way.  At any rate, one can hardly feel safe using any ejaculation in surprise.  I have often used God Bless America!  and Good Griffinhoppers.  Are we getting scrupulous?


    I'm not sure, Trinity. If it was indeed the case that we need expletives, then using 'God Bless America' or something similar could be seen as an attempt to move away from the offending phrase. However, I mostly see the "I didn't really mean that, it just popped out" as more or less a bad habit.

    I probably have this opinion, though, mostly because I don't say things in a moment of surprise. It's nothing I've overcome or fixed, just simply a combination of personality and that most of my family is the same way. I'm not a big talker, so it's not difficult for me to imagine that most people probably would have more difficulty banishing expletives than I would.
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    « Reply #9 on: June 30, 2007, 11:47:03 PM »
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    I think you're speaking a foreign language, Clare, for I haven't a clue as to what you're trying to say!  :confused1:
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