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Offline love alabama

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« on: August 03, 2011, 07:22:24 AM »
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    • Great question that I found
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    Despite our many complaints about the Church in the United States, it seems that the United States is one of the country's that offers the most traditional Latin Masses.  After France, the United States is the country that the SSPX is strongest in.  The United States is also the country that the FSSP is second strongest in after France.  There are numerous editions of the 1962 missal in print in English, suggesting there is a strong market for missals in the English speaking world.  

    In contrast, the traditional Latin Mass is very weak in Latin America.  And many Catholic countries in Europe also have very few TLMs, such as Spain, Portugal, Ireland, and Poland.  In addition, it's my understanding that the Phillipines with its overwhelming Catholic population has very few TLMs.  And while Catholicism has made great inroads into Africa, the TLM has not.  

    It makes sense that the TLM would have a strong presence in France as Archbishop Lefebvre was french, the SSPX started there, and France has traditionally played a strong role in shaping the liturgy.

    But, why the United States? We're a Protestant country with a Catholic minority? Why despite the many flaws in the church here, has the TLM done comparatively well for itself?  How did this masonic republic manage to do a better job when it comes to the TLM compared to traditionally Catholic countries?
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    « Reply #1 on: August 03, 2011, 06:04:43 PM »
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    • That's a good question. To me, looking at the really solid Catholic countries which are now nearly dead, it seems that perhaps the devil used the Catholic's own obedience against them. Doesn't it look like the most obedient countries fell away the hardest? I shudder when I think of Spain and Ireland, so tragic.
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    « Reply #2 on: August 03, 2011, 06:41:10 PM »
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    • Perhaps because we have rebellion in our blood.   :wink:
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    « Reply #3 on: August 03, 2011, 06:46:14 PM »
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    • It seems a tad ironic, but perhaps God wishes for the two original Masonic republics to be converted (reverted) to Catholicism before the rest of the world. In doing so would it not destroy liberalism and the satanic creed of the Revolution at it’s heart?
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    « Reply #4 on: August 04, 2011, 09:53:09 AM »
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    • That's an excellent thought!
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    Offline Catholic Samurai

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    « Reply #5 on: August 04, 2011, 01:24:27 PM »
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    • I think it has mostly to do with the linguistic geography considering English (at the moment) is one of the most popular languages in use throughout the world thanks to the former British Empire's influence.

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    « Reply #6 on: August 04, 2011, 05:20:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Canuk the Lionheart
    It seems a tad ironic, but perhaps God wishes for the two original Masonic republics to be converted (reverted) to Catholicism before the rest of the world. In doing so would it not destroy liberalism and the satanic creed of the Revolution at it’s heart?


    interesting thought.
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