JayneK has horrifically bad pedigree for someone passing herself off as a teaching authority on a traditional Catholic forum, what with her Jєωιѕн background (Vilna Gaon is an ancestor) and her not-so-distant aggressive Judaizing and homo promotion. I don't buy her recent tack of passing herself off as a genuine enemy of тαℓмυdic Judaism. Unconverted Jєωs can parrot correct Catholic teaching on the Jєωs for purposes other than Catholic.

It looks like rum has a great deal to say about me, but he never addresses the question of whether he ever became a Catholic after posting here that he was not one.  It would explain quite a bit about his posts, if he is not Catholic.

It would explain why he thinks it is more important for me to challenge my Jєωιѕн relatives' wrong ideas about the "h0Ɩ0cαųst" than to direct my efforts and prayers to bringing them to faith in Christ.  That is the sort of thing a person who does not understand the significance and value of faith in Christ might think. It would also explain his unwillingness to accept the sincerity of my conversion.  He seems to hate anyone of Jєωιѕн blood, the sort of racial hatred forbidden to Catholics, rather than have the just, Catholic hatred of Judaism as a false religion that rejects Christ.  Catholics recognize that Jєωs cease to be Jєωs upon baptism and Catholics do not assume nefarious motives for taking correct doctrinal positions.

It is true that I have posted erroneous opinions in the past.  He refers to an encounter with me when he posted as BarbaraK on Fisheaters. That happened ten years ago when I had newly discovered traditional Catholicism.  It is not surprising that, as a new trad who had heard little but error regarding Jєωs and Judaism for my entire life, I would fall for a troll situation which rum admits that he "set up specifically" to trap me. And there is no question that I was wrong in my initial response to the transsɛҳuąƖ who came out on Fisheaters seven years ago.  It has taken me years to learn to start thinking like a traditional Catholic and I still need more work on this.  While it is true that I saw myself as some sort of authority on Catholicism at first, I now better understand my limitations and would never make such an absurd claim.

But rum is just as hostile to me now, when I typically post sound Catholic doctrine, as when I posted error in the past.  He appears to care more about my ancestors than whether I believe and profess correct Catholic teaching.  Of course, that makes sense if he is not a Catholic himself.  He really needs to clarify whether he ever became Catholic.  People tend to assume that we are all Catholics here and it is not honest to let people think this if it is not true.

In spring 2011, Vox Clamantis and Quis et Deus split up. (The status of this "marriage" is another question.)  For several years before this, Quis had been handling the moderation of the forum although VoxC was always the owner. Quis left the Fisheaters forum, as well as their relationship, and VoxC became the moderator again.

Yes, it's been quite some time, but I believe this to be true. I also remember being much more able to speak the truth on things when Quis was moderating as opposed to Vox who "temp" banned me numerous times for some very trivial things. Usually when I called out the sodomites or starting getting dangerously too close on the "Jєωιѕн" question on many issues.

After Quis was gone and I seen the character of many new FE posters, I knew my days were numbered.

Alaric was banned in January 2012.  The reason VoxC gave was that he used the word "hymie" to refer to a Jєω.

Lol! yes, I vaguely remember this. Again, I forgot in what context, but I can assure you, whomever I directed it at, surely it did apply. To me calling a Jєω "hymie", espeically in the heat of the battle or commenting on their nefarious agenda, is nothing. It's an ethnic slur to some extent, but no worse than calling an Irishman a "mick" or some black guy " home-boy" or Englishman " limey" or any the other classification we love to heap upon one another, but it's relatively painless. Besides, "hymie" is actually a Jєω's first name. It's nothing. Actually the "rev" Jesse Jackson once reffered the whole city of NY as " hymie-town" and they went ballistic. He got away with it because he's black. But, I lived in that city for years, you know, he was right!

Anyway, Vox wanted me and any other alpha male gone after her sweetie pie bailed. Then the drag queens, feminαzι's and judaizers took control of the place. It was all downhill from there.

 Alaric joined CI almost immediately.

I was trolling well before that. Quis actually directed to Matthew's site. He knew what was coming and the kind of poster I was. I'm actually glad Vox banned me, that place became infectious and I focus more on a good site like CI.

The transsɛҳuąƖ "coming out" thread was in spring of 2013.

What a freak show.

I don't disagree with the gist of what Alaric wrote, but I am just adding this for more historical accuracy.

And I appreciate it. After the ban, I basically lost any kind of access there and lost track of the time frame.

Not that I needed to remember anyway. But it's good know as I'm getting older, I haven't totally lost my marbles.

As I remember it Quis left Vox and wanted to start a relationship with the catfisher Laura. Beyond bizarre. He was as much of a nut as she was -- and is. FE was best during the brief time when both Quis and Vox were awol.

BTW alaric you don't need to kiss up to Matthew. No need to grandstand and tout your virtues. It's always been your major offputting trait.

No one was calling for JayneK to be banned, not that I would care if she is banned.

You are remembering a false rumour rather than what really happened.  Laura had created several identities, one of whom died and had a fake online obituary which stated that Quis was her fiance.  This led to a rumour about them having a romantic relationship.  The romance was just as much a lie as everything else she said.  Quis never did anything like that.  He left Vox for reasons that had nothing to do with Laura.  Given the situation, it was arguably the right thing to do.

Ah ok, my apologies to Quis.

Ah ok, my apologies to Quis.

It is an easy thing to be mistaken about.  Even at the time, it was hard to tell what was going on.  There was one person (posing as various people) telling many lies.  In addition, lots of bystanders were posting their speculations and theories, which other people then treated as facts.  I doubt anybody now could get it right simply relying on memory.

It was a rather horrible situation, but none of the trads involved did anything really bad.  We just wanted to befriend and help these (fake) people and figure out the truth.