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Obama hates Israel
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2014, 01:33:17 PM »
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  • Quote from: Petertherock


    Yup...and so-called Catholic in here think it's OK to hate Jews because you know...they aren't human or anything. I seem to remember Jesus saying something about loving your enemies or something to that effect. But hey...if it's only animal dog Jews that are in need of medical help then it's OK to just walk by and laugh.



    God in Heaven, please deliver us from neocons.

    PtR, did St John Chrysostom "hate" the Jews? Please read his "Eight Homilies Against the Jews" and get back to us on that.

    Read them, mind you. Don't "fix" them.

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    Obama hates Israel
    « Reply #16 on: August 01, 2014, 01:47:21 PM »
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  • PeterwiththeHeadFullofRocks didn't seem to notice that the Jewish woman's pain was so great that she and her family contacted a Jewish politician rather than another doctor.

    Everything about this story registers as phony. How long will it be before "investigators" discover the ovens where the doctor incinerates his Jewish patients and find that the lampshades in his waiting room are made of Jewish skin?


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    « Reply #17 on: August 01, 2014, 03:10:42 PM »
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  • Petertherock,

    The sooner you realize that Satan is your true enemy, and not Obama, and that the true war being fought is over your soul, and not over politics or land, the better off you will be.

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    Obama hates Israel
    « Reply #18 on: August 01, 2014, 04:09:54 PM »
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    "We cannot give approval to (Zionism) or Islam. We cannot prevent the Jews or Muslims from going to Jerusalem—but we could never sanction it. The soil of Jerusalem, if it was not always sacred, has been sanctified by the life of Jesus Christ. As the head of the Church I cannot tell you anything different. The Jews and Muslims have not recognized our Lord, therefore we cannot recognize the Jewish and Muslim people."

    Pope St Pius X


    There...fixed it for you.




    You fixed nothing.

    I simply quoted Pope St Pius X.

    You had the unbelievable gall to presume to "correct" the sainted Holy Father's words.

    Consider that for a moment, "Peter the Rock."


    Of course we can't change the words of Pius X, but based on Catholic teaching wouldn't it be accurate?  Isn't it possible to hear Pius X including the Mahomet Faith as well?  

    Wrt to the OP, however, I would think that as Traditional Catholics we couldn't choose one side over the other.

    It certainly would be interesting to hear what a true Catholic pope would say about this whole situation.

    And PS:  Good to see you back.
    "For there is not any thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall not be known and come abroad."- Luke 8:17

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    Obama hates Israel
    « Reply #19 on: August 01, 2014, 04:23:00 PM »
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  • DOLORES

    I hear from you again, and I know you are a very liberal pro jew
    person.

    Israel must be hated from what it has done to the Palestine people
    and Gaza.

    I hate the Jews and I do not fear them.   They destroyed so many
    good people and nations. And they still are is because they are
    possessed by Satan by rejecting Jesus Christ as their God.

    God created them to be damned forever along with their Freemasons
    followers.  They all want to rebuild the temple of Solomon and
    revive Jewish Rituals, a impossibility today because the 12 Tribes
    of Israel does not exist since the destruction of the Temple in 70
    A.D. and the disbursement of the Jews throughout the them Roman
    World.
    Their fake stories just to get money out of wealthy countries such
    as Germany because of the holocaust fakery. The murder of at lease
    two million Germans after world war 2 as a sacrifice for the Jews.
    The murder of nationalist thinking Germans right after World
    War 2.
    You must be all for this DOLORES because you are a LIBERAL
    and you do not belong on a traditional Catholic Forum. Go away
    to a novus ordo forum were you can preach "Love the Jews" as
    Vatican 2 did.


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    « Reply #20 on: August 01, 2014, 08:24:55 PM »
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  • Thank you, 2vermont.

    The main point of my post was to excite some horror in anyone who would dare tamper with a papal quotation to suit his agenda and call it "Fixing."

    Of course Mohammedans are enemies of the Church. I repeat this ad nauseum to those who, in their zeal to oppose the Jews, find themselves praising or allying themselves with Moslems (E. Michael Jones, an otherwise excellent scholar and polemicist, comes to mind).

    But the Jews - note I say "the Jews," not "all Jews," there is a difference - the Jews are THE Arch-Enemy of the Church on earth, in a special ,particular way that the Mohammedans are not.

    It was they who rejected Our Lord and handed Him over to be killed. It was they who called the Blood of Our Lord down on themselves as a curse. It was they who, when faced with the Divine Justice of God in the destruction of the Temple, refused still to turn to the Christ Whom they had Crucified 40 years earlier. It was they who founded a new, separate religion (Rabbinical Judaism) - a religion whose r'aison d'etre is the rejection of God the Son in favor of man made superstitions. It was they who codified their wicked practices and blasphemies in the Talmud. It was they who infested Christendom like a parasite, feeding on its riches and amassing obscene wealth by evil usurious means. It was they who used this wealth ruin princes and lords and fund both sides of every war for the past several centuries. It was they who established their plan for world domination in their Protocols. And it was they who orchestrated the greatest crime since the Killing of Christ - the infiltration and subversion of Holy Mother Church's hierarchy.

    The Mohammedans are perverse, barbaric heathens, yes. But one knows where one stands with them - convert or die. They excel at killing bodies but the Jews, who use subterfuge and treachery to make up for what they lack in sheer numbers, excel at killing souls. Being founded on Rebellion against God, they are very like the Devil himself (whom Our Lord identified as their father), just as the Catholic Church is like Christ Himself. They are the Anti-Church, and it is from their race that the Anti-Christ will arise.

    In short, the Jews are a special case, for good and for ill. It was thus when they were the Chosen People of God, and it is still so now that they are the Synagogue of Satan.

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    « Reply #21 on: August 02, 2014, 07:43:50 AM »
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    DOLORES

    I hear from you again, and I know you are a very liberal pro jew
    person.

    Israel must be hated from what it has done to the Palestine people
    and Gaza.

    I hate the Jews and I do not fear them.   They destroyed so many
    good people and nations. And they still are is because they are
    possessed by Satan by rejecting Jesus Christ as their God.

    God created them to be damned forever along with their Freemasons
    followers.  They all want to rebuild the temple of Solomon and
    revive Jewish Rituals, a impossibility today because the 12 Tribes
    of Israel does not exist since the destruction of the Temple in 70
    A.D. and the disbursement of the Jews throughout the them Roman
    World.
    Their fake stories just to get money out of wealthy countries such
    as Germany because of the holocaust fakery. The murder of at lease
    two million Germans after world war 2 as a sacrifice for the Jews.
    The murder of nationalist thinking Germans right after World
    War 2.
    You must be all for this DOLORES because you are a LIBERAL
    and you do not belong on a traditional Catholic Forum. Go away
    to a novus ordo forum were you can preach "Love the Jews" as
    Vatican 2 did.


    Do you have any reading comprehension at all?  Petertherock started this thread by saying we ought to be pro-Israel, and I was saying that he was wrong.  That somehow makes me a Jew lover?

    This post is further evidence you had no idea what you are talking about.

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    Obama hates Israel
    « Reply #22 on: August 02, 2014, 10:10:23 AM »
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    Yup...and so-called Catholic in here think it's OK to hate Jews because you know...they aren't human or anything. I seem to remember Jesus saying something about loving your enemies or something to that effect. But hey...if it's only animal dog Jews that are in need of medical help then it's OK to just walk by and laugh.


    Good point.

    A lot of these people were never Catholics to begin with. Because no one takes them seriously in their own lives they joined pinning their dysfunctional murder fantasies into a self make believe false empire thinking it somehow empowered their delusions.

    These insecure people go corn nuts when you try to crumble their walls that the Church in not a sanctuary for their Tom Foolery.


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    Obama hates Israel
    « Reply #23 on: August 02, 2014, 11:54:47 AM »
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    Yup...and so-called Catholic in here think it's OK to hate Jews because you know...they aren't human or anything. I seem to remember Jesus saying something about loving your enemies or something to that effect. But hey...if it's only animal dog Jews that are in need of medical help then it's OK to just walk by and laugh.


    Good point.

    A lot of these people were never Catholics to begin with. Because no one takes them seriously in their own lives they joined pinning their dysfunctional murder fantasies into a self make believe false empire thinking it somehow empowered their delusions.

    These insecure people go corn nuts when you try to crumble their walls that the Church in not a sanctuary for their Tom Foolery.


    Crossbro - Was St John Chrysostom an anti-Semite?

    III

    "(1) Many, I know, respect the Jews and think that their present way of life is a venerable one. This is why I hasten to uproot and tear out this deadly opinion. I said that the synagogue is no better than a theater and I bring forward a prophet as my witness. Surely the Jews are not more deserving of belief than their prophets. "You had a harlot's brow; you became shameless before all". Where a harlot has set herself up, that place is a brothel. But the synagogue is not only a brothel and a theater; it also is a den of robbers and a lodging for wild beasts. Jeremiah said: "Your house has become for me the den of a hyena". He does not simply say "of wild beast", but "of a filthy wild beast", and again: "I have abandoned my house, I have cast off my inheritance". But when God forsakes a people, what hope of salvation is left? When God forsakes a place, that place becomes the dwelling of demons.

    (2) But at any rate the Jews say that they, too, adore God. God forbid that I say that. No Jew adores God! Who say so? The Son of God say so. For he said: "If you were to know my Father, you would also know me. But you neither know me nor do you know my Father". Could I produce a witness more trustworthy than the Son of God?

    (3) If, then, the Jews fail to know the Father, if they crucified the Son, if they thrust off the help of the Spirit, who should not make bold to declare plainly that the synagogue is a dwelling of demons? God is not worshipped there. Heaven forbid! From now on it remains a place of idolatry."
    Adversus Iudaeos I 3:1-3

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    « Reply #24 on: August 02, 2014, 02:00:33 PM »
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  • I want to thank you, NYBTC, for a few passages from St. John Chrysostom.  This saint helps bring one back to one's senses, if such is possible in the case of  Crossbro.  This person is dysfunctional, IMHO, and he/she writes dysfunctionally, e.g.

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    A lot of these people were never Catholics to begin with. Because no one takes them seriously in their own lives they joined pinning their dysfunctional murder fantasies into a self make believe false empire thinking it somehow empowered their delusions.

     These insecure people go corn nuts when you try to crumble their walls that the Church in not a sanctuary for their Tom Foolery.


    This is and example of many, which Crossbro has written thus far.  His/her strange, incomprehensible syntax, awkward imagery,  puzzling phraseology, and helter skelter use of word modifiers and capitals leads me to believe that he/she may be an utter loon. :confused1:



     

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