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Title: O Rielly nails it on America s race problem
Post by: Binechi on May 21, 2015, 03:40:41 PM
http://www.cnsnews.com/video/national/oreilly-americas-race-problem

For Americans , do listen up, Excellent video .  On a scale of 1-10, on facts , I give it a 10.  No punches pulled

What say you ??
Title: O Rielly nails it on America s race problem
Post by: BTNYC on May 22, 2015, 08:56:31 AM
I say that as long as this Zionist neocon jackass only gives one half of the story, and thereby contributes to the prevailing ignorance in america to the fact that blacks have been intentionally radicalized by Jєωιѕн agitator groups like the NAACP for a century now, he is very much "pulling punches" and his talking points are therefore not worth the paper they're printed on.

I cannot for the life of me understand ostensibly "Traditional" Catholics becoming enamored by these slimy GOP shills like Limbaugh, Hannity, and O'Reilly - the last two being particularly loathesome because they go around pretending to be "Catholics" themselves. O'Reilly is the worst of all, showing his Masonic leanings every time he refers to the Triune God Almighty, by the contemptuously impersonal epithet "the deity," and lining his pockets with the ill-gotten profits from blasphenous trash like "Killing Jesus."

Actually, scratch that - i do understand it. It's Americanism, plain and simple. It's the scrapping of the traditional Sensus Catholicus in favor of an internalization of the masonic, anti-Catholic enlightenment "values" of America, complete with its sham "left / right paradigm.

In this brief seven minute video, E. Michael Jones assesses the situation with a clarity that neocon O'Reilly, useful goy idiot, cannot hope to aspire to. Here is a guy who pulls no punches:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/O3hU1n6aQko[/youtube]
Title: O Rielly nails it on America s race problem
Post by: Capt McQuigg on May 22, 2015, 09:19:11 AM
Notwithstanding the posted video, E. Michael Jones belongs in the same category as Limbaugh, Hannity and O'Reilly.

Some of what these men say is definitely interesting and Limbaugh has proven himself the best of the bunch on secular issues (he certainly has the most financial success) with Jones being best on religious-conflict issues.  Jones pulls his punches when it comes to the post-Vatican II church.  

Hannity is just drivel and I can't tolerate listening to him for more than a few minutes at a time because of how repetitive he is and the lack of any depth to his arguments.

I haven't tuned in to any Fox News commentators in almost a decade now.  

E. Michael Jones likes to play himself up as some grand Catholic knight but he is a lover of power.  He lusts after it.  He glorifies the papacy as a power structure.  His self-appointed and highly entertaining role is to be some basher of "miscreants" and "people who step out of line" and he goes after "wandering cardinals" and he despises liturgical abuses without confessing that he knows these orders come from the very top.


Title: O Rielly nails it on America s race problem
Post by: BTNYC on May 22, 2015, 09:26:05 AM
Quote from: Capt McQuigg

E. Michael Jones likes to play himself up as some grand Catholic knight but he is a lover of power.  He lusts after it.  He glorifies the papacy as a power structure.  His self-appointed and highly entertaining role is to be some basher of "miscreants" and "people who step out of line" and he goes after "wandering cardinals" and he despises liturgical abuses without confessing that he knows these orders come from the very top.




I think you've confused E Michael Jones with Michael Voris.
Title: O Rielly nails it on America s race problem
Post by: BTNYC on May 22, 2015, 09:36:16 AM
O'Reilly at 1:26 - "When was the last time you saw a public service ad telling black girls to avoid becoming pregnant?"

This morning. On the subway.

(http://www.bet.com/news/health/2013/03/13/commentary-is-nyc-s-anti-teen-pregnancy-campaign-problematic/_jcr_content/featuredMedia/newsitemimage.newsimage.dimg/031313-health-new-york-anti-teen-pregnancy-campaign-ads.jpg)

(http://www.sofreshandsogreen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/n44933063519_1338567_1412.jpg)

(http://images.tbd.com/politics/dc-campaign-ad-1.jpg)

Is he kidding? Planned Parenthood, city governments and other abortion and contraception mongers target blacks all the time. And it works. Blacks are the biggest baby-killing demographic in this country.

Why would a Catholic frame the question that way? Wouldn't any Catholic worth the name ask "When was the last time you saw a public service ad telling black girls - or any girls - to abstain from sex before marriage?" That's something that's actually never done, but should be - certainly from a Catholic perspective.
Title: O Rielly nails it on America s race problem
Post by: BTNYC on May 22, 2015, 09:48:39 AM
He complains about the "gangsta rap" culture. All well and good - but who does he think is behind the record industry? Who is behind the media that pushes this trash?
Title: O Rielly nails it on America s race problem
Post by: Stubborn on May 22, 2015, 09:50:21 AM
Quote from: Director
http://www.cnsnews.com/video/national/oreilly-americas-race-problem

For Americans , do listen up, Excellent video .  On a scale of 1-10, on facts , I give it a 10.  No punches pulled

What say you ??


Nice to hear something like that for a change, thanks for posting it.  

The whole situation can only hope to get worse and worse without God no matter what speeches are made.
Title: O Rielly nails it on America s race problem
Post by: Capt McQuigg on May 22, 2015, 10:17:36 AM
Quote from: BTNYC
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E. Michael Jones likes to play himself up as some grand Catholic knight but he is a lover of power.  He lusts after it.  He glorifies the papacy as a power structure.  His self-appointed and highly entertaining role is to be some basher of "miscreants" and "people who step out of line" and he goes after "wandering cardinals" and he despises liturgical abuses without confessing that he knows these orders come from the very top.




I think you've confused E Michael Jones with Michael Voris.


Unfortunately no.  

Michael Voris is the Sean Hannity of the Catholic world.  He's handsome and presents himself well on camera.  The info Mr. Voris gives is general and designed to please the listener.  Dr. Jones (who was once the subject of an hour long interview by Mr. Voris) possesses neither of these qualities and comes across hoarse and desperate to get his view across.  

Dr. Jones is more substantive than Mr. Voris but I'm not sure there's a big difference between the two.  Take the Candida Moss at Notre Dame issue as an example.  Dr. Jones insulted Notre Dame University and told the listeners that the true method of judging a university is what other university think of it.  He did not mention, at all, the 1968 Land of Lakes revolution where Catholic leadership was wrested away and given over to secular men.  Dr. Jones pines for the respect of the Univ of Chicago and seems to care not a whit that Notre Dame is Catholic in name only and the "Catholicism" of the Fighting Irish is actually the most widely interpreted Conciliarism that you could think - as in, giving  honorary doctorates to men who think abortion is a sacramental right.  

Mr. Voris attempts to soothe the nerves of novus ordites who are wondering if the problems of the conciliar church go all the way to the top and he tries to calm them and symbolically be their advocate.  He is trying to fool them, as you are well aware, but he plays the role of a helping man.

Dr. Jones wants the listener/viewer to come away thinking how clever Dr. Jones is.  He is clever and he is smart, most ph.D candidates are.  But Dr. Jones is a more guttural and intensive version of Mr. Voris.  

Neither one of them are willing to call a spade a spade.

The flaws are there in Dr. Jones just as much as in Mr. Voris.  
Title: O Rielly nails it on America s race problem
Post by: BTNYC on May 22, 2015, 10:42:49 AM
It seems most of your criticisms of Jones are about syle and tone (he's "gutteral," hoarse," "comes across as desparate, wants people to think he's smart," etc.) rather than substance.

He's "unwilling to call a spade a spade?" Have you read his books? Calling spades spades is about all he does. That's my point. Jones is probably the most articulate voice in America against the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan, a subject that's otherwise totally verboten in American political discourse. That's what puts him lightyears ahead of neocon jackals like Hannity, O'Reilly and that fat mammon-adoring windbag Limbaugh, all of whom shill for Israel and the Jєωιѕн usury machine and, therefore, cannot be trusted as far as they can be chucked.


Quote from: Capt McQuigg


Dr. Jones insulted Notre Dame University and told the listeners that the true method of judging a university is what other university think of it.  He did not mention, at all, the 1968 Land of Lakes revolution where Catholic leadership was wrested away and given over to secular men.  Dr. Jones pines for the respect of the Univ of Chicago and seems to care not a whit that Notre Dame is Catholic in name only and the "Catholicism" of the Fighting Irish is actually the most widely interpreted Conciliarism that you could think - as in, giving  honorary doctorates to men who think abortion is a sacramental right.




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Tessler: That’s quite alright. I have a question from a listener, is Notre Dame still Catholics?
 
Jones: The answer is no, and part of the research I did after I got fired was look at what happened to Notre Dame and so it was a year long process. The book, “Is Notre Dame Still Catholic?” which we have at CultureWars.com, covers a 25 years period of the decline of Notre Dame. But the crucial moment took place in the 60s, and I mentioned the Rockefeller’s before. They had a big effect on Notre Dame, that is true. In the early 1960s, the Rockefellers were concerned about promoting birth control because they thought the unwashed masses were taking over the earth. So the biggest obstacle to universal acceptance of birth control was the Roman Catholic Church at that time. So being intelligent people, they decided to try and undermine that position and they did it by sponsoring a series of secret conferences at Notre Dame. This was created after a Notre Dame priest went on a program about contraception in 1962. The head branch of the New York branch of Planned Parenthood brought this fact to the attention of John D. Rockefeller and the population council and they approached Notre Dame and they promised them money if they would run a series of secret conferences. Notre Dame agreed to do this from ‘63 to ‘65, they ran secret conferences. “Secret” is their word, not my word. They said “this is going to be secret, we don’t want certain people, we don’t want the bishop to know, we’re going to do this under the radar screen”. ’65 a group of theologians who had been invited to this conference announced they no longer found the church’s teaching on contraception persuasive. Now, nobody said the Rockefellers funded that conclusion, and if you didn’t come to that conclusion you got kicked out of the conference. So, what happened now was that the Church is unsettled because gosh, Notre Dame is the Catholic Harvard isn’t it? So at this point, at Catholic U, Charles Curran, who’s been teaching against contraception is let go, but there’s uprising, there’s demonstrations, so the bishop backs down. At this point, going back a step, in the summer of 1965, after they make their announcement, Father Hesburgh, the President of Notre Dame, takes John D. Rockefeller over to Rome and he arranges a private audience with Pope Paul VI and during that private audience, John D. Rockefeller volunteers to write the Pope’s birth control encyclical for him, which I thought was mighty white of this guy, you know? He knows the Pope is a busy guy and he’s got nothing but time on his hands because he’s so rich. Unfortunately from his point of view, the Pope turns him down and as a result, Humanae Vitae comes out against contraception in ’68. In ’67 however, Hesburgh sees his moment of opportunity, the bishops back down, and he in effect steals Notre Dame University from the Catholic Church. He takes what is a Catholic institution and puts it under a lay board of trustees and from that moment on, it is no longer a Catholic institution. It is a government institution and it serves the government ends, and the main government end that it serves is the social engineering of young Catholics. Basically turning them into loyal Americans and bad Catholics at the same time, and that’s what it’s been ever since.
 
Tessler: But aren’t many Catholic institutions doing that across America right now?
 
Jones: Yes, I mean, Hesburgh was not alone when he did this. The theft was known as the Land O’ Lakes statement. That was the summer of ’67, and a number of other Catholic institutions signed it as well. Fordham signed it, Gerogetown and many people may say Georgetown’s worse than Notre Dame, but the same issue took place at all of these places. What was a Catholic institution, which was held by the Catholic Church, the Holy Cross priests held it in trust for the Catholic Church, it doesn’t mean that they own and administer it, they hold it in trust for the Church. Now, it is owned by lay board of lay trustees which means all of that money which went there was stolen from the Church. Now this is not my opinion, I was the biographer of John Cardinal Krol of Philadelphia, who was the chairman of the Revised Code of Canon Law. When I asked him about the Land ‘o Lakes statement, he said to me that it’s alienation of Church property, which is another word for theft. That’s what Henry VIII did in England, that looting operation was known as the Reformation, and this operation is known as Land o’ Lakes and created the new Catholic University.

http://jettandjahn.com/2013/07/transcript-from-dr-e-michael-jones-interview-12232012/



To be sure, Jones is not without his faults - I think he's overly sympathetic to Mohammedans, for example. And on the subject of the Novus Ordo he's lamentably weak - though his friendship with Bishop Williamson leaves me with hope that that might change. But to place him in the same league as these neocon lackeys of the Church's very worst enemy on earth - including a putative "Catholic" who published and produced and profitted from a literal work of blasphemy against Our Lord - is absurd in the extreme.
Title: O Rielly nails it on America s race problem
Post by: Binechi on May 22, 2015, 11:21:50 AM
I feel you are missing the whole point of the speech.

First of all he had the guts to tell it like it is.. Like he say s , where are all the black leaders.  

The most important point that was mentioned , and that is the root cause , is
"The break up of the Family"

You see as you may or not know this is the prime aim of Satan and the Communist regime, if you break up the family , you have no structure, discipline, no order, no society.  

As asked by one of the black Preachers , why the young women go around having babies ,  , "The answer came back", " I get a check",  In other words, I s can stay alive, I don t have to go out and look for a job and take responsibilities.  In the mine while the child  , beyond there reasoning  becomes a teanager, and a man, most cases not a father and the cycle goes on and on, we all pay for it.  

This the Obama plan, I ll give you anything you want , just give me your vote, as much, or good as it even is ,now adays.  

I could go on , and on , I am sure you all understand the picture.  

What you d better understand is the gov t has something Big, Big headed your way with this "Jade Helm" exercise, and most likely Martial Law, which means this country could be given over to the UN,  You won t get this on the local news ,, This is going to happen sometime in July.  Not much time, to get your act together.  Educate yourselves about this.  They just need a man made major catastrophe to tie it in with that JH "Exercise".....
Title: O Rielly nails it on America s race problem
Post by: Capt McQuigg on May 22, 2015, 11:29:22 AM
BTNYC,

What has E. Michael Jones written about Pope Paul VI?

Title: O Rielly nails it on America s race problem
Post by: BTNYC on May 22, 2015, 11:35:30 AM
Quote from: Capt McQuigg
BTNYC,

What has E. Michael Jones written about Pope Paul VI?



What has Bill O'Reilly ever written about him?
Title: O Rielly nails it on America s race problem
Post by: BTNYC on May 22, 2015, 11:38:10 AM
Quote from: Director
I feel you are missing the whole point of the speech.

First of all he had the guts to tell it like it is.. Like he say s , where are all the black leaders.  

The most important point that was mentioned , and that is the root cause , is
"The break up of the Family"

You see as you may or not know this is the prime aim of Satan and the Communist regime, if you break up the family , you have no structure, discipline, no order, no society.  

As asked by one of the black Preachers , why the young women go around having babies ,  , "The answer came back", " I get a check",  In other words, I s can stay alive, I don t have to go out and look for a job and take responsibilities.  In the mine while the child  , beyond there reasoning  becomes a teanager, and a man, most cases not a father and the cycle goes on and on, we all pay for it.  

This the Obama plan, I ll give you anything you want , just give me your vote, as much, or good as it even is ,now adays.  

I could go on , and on , I am sure you all understand the picture.  

What you d better understand is the gov t has something Big, Big headed your way with this "Jade Helm" exercise, and most likely Martial Law, which means this country could be given over to the UN,  You won t get this on the local news ,, This is going to happen sometime in July.  Not much time, to get your act together.  Educate yourselves about this.  They just need a man made major catastrophe to tie it in with that JH "Exercise".....


Did you even watch the video I linked to?

You mention Communism. Who was behind that? Who was behind the NAACP? Why are people like George Soros behind Obama?
Title: O Rielly nails it on America s race problem
Post by: Capt McQuigg on May 22, 2015, 12:42:05 PM
Quote from: BTNYC
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BTNYC,

What has E. Michael Jones written about Pope Paul VI?



What has Bill O'Reilly ever written about him?


I was asking if Dr. Jones has ever written anything about Pope Paul VI.  After all, E. Michael Jones sees himself as a great Catholic knight who fights error in the Church and fights tooth and nail against those who espouse error yet, if he's written nothing critical about Pope Paul VI and the Second Vatican Council all the while sticking to his opinion that Bishop Williamson is schismatic then he's exactly like Bill O'Reilly and the neocons who criticise the problems in the world while never pointing out the action of the Jєωs.  

That's why I linked them together.  

For the record, Bill O'Reilly has never written anything that I would take up a lot of precious time to read.  Time cannot be replaced and I do not need to read something written by Mr. O'Reilly to know it is not valuable.  His writing in junk and the entire thesis could be gained by reading one of his articles at some website.  

I don't want to dismiss Dr. Jones the same way but the quote you provided sure seems to lead in that direction because Dr. Jones portrays the Rockefellers as the big bad wolf.  Well, Catholics for centuries have stood fast in the Catholic Faith against those wolves so SOMETHING is now different.  Dr. Jones can't, or more likely refuses, to actually see what is wrong.  Dr. Jones has proven this willful avoidance by mocking Bishop Williamson's suggestion that Vatican II needs to be rescinded.  As for the Rockefeller suggestion of writing an encyclical for the pope, did Dr. Jones not notice that the concept of "Responsible Parenthood" was introduced in "Humanae Vitae" by Pope Paul VI?