Author Topic: NYT: The Gospel of Jesus Wife? (Read 3809 times)

PenitentWoman · « **Reply #15 on:** September 20, 2012, 10:25:30 AM »

Quote from: Sigismund

There are heretical "gospels" that say all sorts of things. Like most, this one is four hundred years removed from Our Lord's earthly life. Why would even a non-believer take this seriously?

I don't know if it is so much non-believers that care about this stuff. It is those who identify as Catholic that made The Da Vinci code such a hit. Prots and non-believers aren't as fascinated with church history and any potential mysteries as those who have grown up steeped in so called "cultural Catholicism."

Your average, modern, liberal Catholic would just love to have something they could use to say "See...the church was wrong about this (Jesus' marital status) so it could also be wrong about gαy marriage, birth control etc. Jesus loved everyone, we should accept everyone, tolerate everything..."

Read this is this morning, from a "Catholic"

Who would have thought initially that Dan Brown's novels would have provoked the responses they provoked from institutions like Opus Dei, assorted bishops and cardinals, and the subdean of Westminster Abbey! WHAT IF Jesus had married, had married Mary Magdalene, made babies enough for a championship football team, and retired to a small cave in southern France -- after the ascension of course!
Religion has long been a fertile ground for a transcendent brand of doctrine styled "my way or the highway" theology. That's how we silence people who disagree with us, or just plain get rid of them, as in bonfires and gas chambers. 'Tis a bit early for anyone to prognosticate how this discovery will "change" Christianity, if it does at all. Whatever may come of it, perhaps it will become a personal invitation to all to leave their good Christian lives and follow Jesus, who may (or may not) be a husband and daddy.

As far as the "finding" itself? I was a young teen when I saw The Da Vinci Code. Unfortunately, I did seek out the gnostic "gospels" and wanted to see if Jesus really did kiss Mary Magdalene. It is crazy how media can mess with people.

When my bff got married, she had major problems with her priest (this is the priest that later ended up helping me back to the Faith) and after the ceremony was over she decided to basically taunt him and tell him that it was her belief that Jesus loved Mary Magdalene so much, that he gave the church to her, not St. Peter. Peter, she believed was just as much a "misogynist" as Paul (this was her words) and he couldn't stand it that Jesus was a feminist, so he "stole" it back.

You might be shocked at how many people believe things like that.

http://www.gnostic.info/rose_Mary%20Magdalene.html

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #16 on:** September 20, 2012, 12:15:48 PM »

Quote from: PenitentWoman

When my bff got married, she had major problems with her priest (this is the priest that later ended up helping me back to the Faith) and after the ceremony was over she decided to basically taunt him and tell him that it was her belief that Jesus loved Mary Magdalene so much, that he gave the church to her, not St. Peter. Peter, she believed was just as much a "misogynist" as Paul (this was her words) and he couldn't stand it that Jesus was a feminist, so he "stole" it back. You might be shocked at how many people believe things like that.

Did you see her behave in this manner or did she tell you later on herself? People sometimes like to exaggerate.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #17 on:** September 20, 2012, 12:32:42 PM »

A disciple of our enemy says they have something slightly smaller than a business card that was provided by an unnamed collector who insists on maintianing his privacy to "experts" who can never have what they are saying questioned and all this small piece of paper contains is that Jesus was married and that Mary Magdalene was to be a disciple so, logically, the Holy Church is wrong about celibacy in the priesthood and wrong about women priests. They even have a Jєωιѕн specialist from an Israeli university who gives this piece of evidence the thumb's up.

That's all they're saying. :rolleyes:

Hey, at least they have more than just a pig's tooth this time (From only a pig's tooth, the concept of Piltdown Man was conceived in the 1920's.)

The enemies of Our Lord Jesus Christ are up late at night coming up with all kinds of gimmicks. It's our job to not follow along with such foolery!

Elizabeth · « **Reply #18 on:** September 20, 2012, 12:48:56 PM »

The precursor to Ms. King is Elaine Pagels. She is from an elite academic background, her dad was a noted biologist, she graduated from Stanford and Harvard, published The Gnostic Gospels in 1979 and she has been a Macarthur Fellow for decades at Princeton. She's the head of Religion there. I read her Gospels maybe 30 years ago. My Catholic girlfriend gave me her copy.

So, these Luciferian works have been taught to the elite children for decades. This is how social engineering occurs. "First the classes, then the masses". The prestige of the movers and shakers in elite universities, their influence should not be underestimated.

So, Captain, I think it is unlikely that PW's friend was exaggerating. This is a common belief among educated Catholic ladies; their college-educated moms had already been seduced by the Luciferian gnostic material years ago.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #19 on:** September 20, 2012, 01:58:25 PM »

Elizabeth,

Regarding PW's friend, I was just suspicious that someone would be that rude on her wedding day.

I know what you mean and I'm minimally familiar with Elaine Pagels. There are many others just like her. Back in the 1990's there was the "Jesus Seminar" and this group specialized in deciding which statements of Jesus were actually said by him and which weren't and they decided this by a vote.

There was a socialist activist named "Rev" Barry Lynn of the Americans United for the Separation of Church and State but he's not called on by the press so much anymore because just about everyone has figured out the game he's playing.

There's Bishop Shelby Spong who has written of slew of pretentious books about why Christianity must change of die.

There's dozens and dozens of docuмentary producers who are always producing films which purport to debunk Christianity.

These guys and gals are all out there.

Some spread lies to deceive the flock others debunk Catholicism because Catholicism stands in the way of their evil temporal plans. Either way, they spread lies and work againt Our Lord.

We know the liars have an ulteriour motive, but the question we should be concerned with is why do some souls believe lies about Our Lord Jesus Christ and Our Lady?

Why do some souls not ask basic questions about the evidence in favor of the fraud? It's not hard to discern that a story based on such scant evidence should attract a lot of skepticism.

It's not the absence of curiosity but instead is a willingness and eagerness to be free from moral judgement. I'm sure there are some other reasons but they would be unsavory.

People who believe lies about Our Lord and Our Lady do it because they WANT to believe those lies. Perhaps people who so willingly believe lies about Our Lord and Our Lady aren't part of the fold to begin with. It's possible. It could even mean that they may actually possess rancid souls and that they are in jeopardy of being condemned eternally. Even when I was in the novus ordo and hadn't been clued in to their abominations and fakery, I was already figuring it out for myself.