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Offline Catechist99

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Novelties prior to Vatican 2
« on: February 16, 2013, 09:29:13 PM »
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  • I found this photo today taken in 1969 of a home "mass" where women and a priest are sitting in a circle, some immodestly dressed, and there doesn't appear to be an altar or a "communion table".  It's not from a Catholic website but I thought it was interesting because it shows that novelties existed before the NO mass was made public.  



    What do you think?


    Offline Marlelar

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    « Reply #1 on: February 17, 2013, 07:52:29 AM »
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  • Well I wouldn't be surprised, but it looks more like they are sitting around reading something.

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    « Reply #2 on: February 17, 2013, 08:17:42 AM »
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  • I remember this was going on during and after Vatican 2. Home Masses.
    I never considered them valid and avoided them as sacrilegious.
    Sad the children will most likely will lose their faith.
    My class of 1966 in their 20th reunion of a Catholic High School is
    an prime example. I found none that practiced their Catholic
    Religion. Some were with me since first grade at a Catholic
    parochial school in 1954.

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    Novelties prior to Vatican 2
    « Reply #3 on: February 17, 2013, 08:43:45 AM »
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  • Quote from: Catechist99
    . . . I thought it was interesting because it shows that novelties existed before the NO mass was made public.  



    What do you think?


    I had a discussion with my dad last night about the 1960s.  He talked about liberal priests jumping ahead and acting on their expectations of what was going to emerge from Vatican II.  The priest at my home parish (before I was born) got married near the conclusion of or immediately following Vatican II.  Also, in trying to find some more info about that modernist heretic, I came across this:  http://books.google.com/books?id=OqdNN9R9OHcC&pg=PA57&lpg=PA59&ots=J7z122rPI1&dq=fr.+eugene+e.+ryan&output=html_text

    This outlines how the liturgical changes were gradually introduced in one rural KY diocese starting several years before the NO was made public.  Reading between the lines, liturgical novelties during the 1960s are not at all surprising.

    The article I link is very disturbing in that it demonstrates how sinister the bishop was (and I am sure this was the design from further up the hierarchy) in seeking to implement the changes gradually so as to cause the least questioning and balking from the sheeple.

    As to the picture in the op, perhaps this priest and these young ladies are engaged in a completely orthodox Roman Catholic endeavor totally undeserving of some smart@$$ such as myself coming along some 40+ years later and quipping that it looks like father is telling them what seminary is going to be like.  But I can't resist.

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    « Reply #4 on: February 17, 2013, 11:20:51 AM »
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  • Interesting thread, but these events began either during or after Vatican II, not as the title says, "prior to Vatican II"  Vatican II did not begin until October 11th 1962.
    The Council of Trent, The Catechism of the Council of Trent, Papal Teaching, The Teaching of the Holy Office, The Teaching of the Church Fathers, The Code of Canon Law, Countless approved catechisms, The Doctors of the Church, The teaching of the Dogmatic


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    « Reply #5 on: February 17, 2013, 04:56:00 PM »
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  • The title of the thread should be "Novelties prior to the NO," since the NO wasn't promulgated til 1970 (or 71; I forget which).
    "In our time more than ever before, the greatest asset of the evil-disposed is the cowardice and weakness of good men, and all the vigour of Satan's reign is due to the easy-going weakness of Catholics." -St. Pius X

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