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Offline Struthio

Re: Cardinal Newman on papal infalliability
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2019, 07:46:26 AM »
Why does Newman quote the Swiss Bishops?
What is Newman's comment on the quote?

Does Newman use the quote to argue that Infallibility can not be defined?
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Offline Cera

Re: Cardinal Newman on papal infalliability
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2019, 02:51:45 PM »
Rorate Caeli has an article by Michael Davies on Cardinal Newman and his stance on infallibility, a stance with which I think most traditional Catholics will agree.
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2015/07/exclusive-for-rorate-michael-davies.html

Michael Davies, in the general brawl of the immediate post-council, understood at once that “no one, whatever his rank, can compel us to accept an interpretation of moral or doctrinal teaching in a conciliar docuмent which conflicts with the previous teaching of the Church”33.

Davies refers back to Newman who asserted that when a new form is not faithful to the idea that it attempts to express better, such a new form is an unfaithful and false development “more properly called a corruption”. Citing Bellarmine, Cardinal Newman recalls that: “All Catholics and heretics agree in two things: first that it is possible for a pope, even as Pope, and with his own assembly of councillors, or with a General Council, to err in particular controversies of fact, which chiefly depend on human information and testimony…”34.


Let’s not forget, as Cardinal Newman reminds us, that “ At the time of Arianism it was the fidelity of the lay that saved the Church.”  
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Offline Struthio

Re: Cardinal Newman on papal infalliability
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2019, 06:59:29 AM »
The quotes of Davies just prove that Davies endorses Newmans strange ideas about development.


What about the pertinent questions:

Why does Newman quote the Swiss Bishops?
What is Newman's comment on the quote?
Does Newman use the quote to argue that Infallibility can not be defined?
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