[Meg]

Ripperger WAS with the FSSP but left to start his own order. The FSSP are trained to divert faithful SSPX'ers and lead them to FSSP. It's a trap I did not fall for. So are the indult masses.

Yes, it's likely that JP2 started the FSSP in order to take trads away from the SSPX. 

However, there are some FSSP priests who are sympathetic to the SSPX. Yesterday I didn't feel like going to the SSPX mass, so I went to FSSP which is in my neighborhood. I was quite surprised when the priest mentioned Archbishop Lefebvre during the homily, and he spoke very well about him, and said that the FSSP came from the SSPX. I had NEVER before heard an FSSP priest say anything about the late Archbishop. I was quite bowled-over. 

The indult Masses are tainted with the modern church, to be sure. I could describe the differences between the SSPX and the Indult FSSP, but why bother. The SSPX is still better than the FSSP. The Resistance masses are better to attend, if possible. 

[kiwiboy]

And how do I make spiritual communions?

"My Lord Jesus Christ, I desire to be united to thee now and forever"

Then (or better before) unite your self to the holy Sacrifices of the Mass. I have not found a formal formula for that one so I just make my own.  "I unite myself to all the Holy Sacrifices of the Mass being made this day".


I disagree with the Admin on the "yellow light" position. "If I decide for my family" is totally subjective.

What a good Catholic must know is that there is a conciliar Church, a cancer within the Catholic Church. A normal reaction to knowing this is to wish to stay away from it. The moral theology of the Church obliges us to stay away from valid sacraments in the case of a danger to the faith and an alignment with heresy and schism. Both these conditions are met perfectly in the SSPX. Sorry people, but it is the truth.

The sacraments are not toys to make us feel good. If a person is worried about their kids, then welcome to the real world. You are only enduring what Catholic parents have endured for thousands of years in isolated places. What gives you the right to bend the rules just because you don't want to say no to your child?

Anyway, Takion, that last bit was not addressed to you but to others. Don't worry about the politics of the resistance too much. Just follow what the Church has always taught and you won't go wrong. Japanese Catholics endured no sacraments for 200 years. God will certainly reward you if you can resist going to an SSPX Mass.


And to all the naysayers out there, I'm sorry to admit it, but Father Pfeiffer was right on this issue and we were wrong. This happens. Deal with it. Swallow your pride and do the right thing yourselves and stop taking advantage of the humility of a new convert.

[Samuel]

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What a good Catholic must know is that there is a conciliar Church, a cancer within the Catholic Church. A normal reaction to knowing this is to wish to stay away from it. The moral theology of the Church obliges us to stay away from valid sacraments in the case of a danger to the faith and an alignment with heresy and schism. Both these conditions are met perfectly in the SSPX. Sorry people, but it is the truth.

The sacraments are not toys to make us feel good. If a person is worried about their kids, then welcome to the real world. You are only enduring what Catholic parents have endured for thousands of years in isolated places. What gives you the right to bend the rules just because you don't want to say no to your child?

Anyway, Takion, that last bit was not addressed to you but to others. Don't worry about the politics of the resistance too much. Just follow what the Church has always taught and you won't go wrong. Japanese Catholics endured no sacraments for 200 years. God will certainly reward you if you can resist going to an SSPX Mass.

And to all the naysayers out there, I'm sorry to admit it, but Father Pfeiffer was right on this issue and we were wrong. This happens. Deal with it. Swallow your pride and do the right thing yourselves and stop taking advantage of the humility of a new convert.

There is a danger in attending a mass that is poisoned, but there is also a danger in having no mass to attend. The real question to ask is "which danger is greater", and that question is something that each person must answer in his own circuмstances.

It is not a black and white question, as for example St. Thomas Aquinas when speaking about heretics teaches that "until the Church's sentence is pronounced, it is lawful to receive Communion at their hands, and to hear their mass." (Summa, III, q82, a9). If it is lawful, no Catholic has the right to forbid it. 

Fr. Pfeiffer acts as if his own mass is the only one that is free of danger, and in this he is absolutely wrong, on the contrary!

[kiwiboy]

There is a danger in attending a mass that is poisoned, but there is also a danger in having no mass to attend. The real question to ask is "which danger is greater", and that question is something that each person must answer in his own circuмstances.

It is not a black and white question, as for example St. Thomas Aquinas when speaking about heretics teaches that "until the Church's sentence is pronounced, it is lawful to receive Communion at their hands, and to hear their mass." (Summa, III, q82, a9). If it is lawful, no Catholic has the right to forbid it.

Fr. Pfeiffer acts as if his own mass is the only one that is free of danger, and in this he is absolutely wrong, on the contrary!

Yes, well Father Pfeiffer has gone to other extremes. This is not the place to discuss this.

It is ridiculous to insinuate that I am "forbidding" it. The theology of the Church forbids it. I have no jurisdictional authority to do anything. Take it up with God almighty if you have a problem.

And since the St. Thomas' the Church has pronounced many times on attending Masses of heretics and schismatics. . The answer was NO, NO, and NO again! Stop trying to make gray where things are black and white.

Serious issues like this require us to be detached from our sentiments and human respect.

[kiwiboy]

oh and by the way... there is no "danger" in doing the will of God according to the teaching of the Church.

Another unhealthy insinuation because you are trying to scare someone away from doing the right thing.