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Offline clare

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New doctor of the Church?
« Reply #60 on: June 05, 2015, 03:26:55 AM »
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    Saint Gregory of Narek was a Catholic
    by Brother André Marie February 25, 2015

    This morning, I telephoned an old Armenian Catholic friend to ask him about Saint Gregory of Narek, recently proclaimed Doctor of the Church by Pope Francis. Joe speaks fluent modern Armenian and reads the old classical Armenian literature. He was, for a time after Wold War II, a novice for the Mekhitarist Congregation of Armenian Catholic monks in Vienna, Austria. He is my go-to man for things Armenian and Catholic, and was a big help to Sister Maria Philomena when she wrote “Crowns for Armenia,” which appeared in From the Housetops 46.

    To my question whether or not Gregory was pro- or anti-chalcedonian, Joe unhesitatingly replied that he was pro-chalcedonian, and added, “Of course, he was an Armenian Catholic.” He also expressed the thought that this proclamation of Pope Francis could be helpful for the reunion of the members of the Armenian “National Church” with Rome. The words in quotes were his: he does not like the term “Armenian Apostolic,” because he holds it is based on fabricated history. Joe is going to try to find some things he can send me on the matter.

    Meantime, if any of our readers is learned in Armenian Catholic matters, I would love to have anything you can contribute in the comboxes about Saint Gregory’s Catholicity.

    I found this yesterday, when I was looking on that website, which I don't often do, and I thought it was interesting to see what the view of "Feeneyites in communion with Rome" was.


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    New doctor of the Church?
    « Reply #61 on: June 05, 2015, 09:48:57 AM »
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    Catholicism.org

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    Saint Gregory of Narek was a Catholic
    by Brother André Marie February 25, 2015

    This morning, I telephoned an old Armenian Catholic friend to ask him about Saint Gregory of Narek, recently proclaimed Doctor of the Church by Pope Francis. Joe speaks fluent modern Armenian and reads the old classical Armenian literature. He was, for a time after Wold War II, a novice for the Mekhitarist Congregation of Armenian Catholic monks in Vienna, Austria. He is my go-to man for things Armenian and Catholic, and was a big help to Sister Maria Philomena when she wrote “Crowns for Armenia,” which appeared in From the Housetops 46.

    To my question whether or not Gregory was pro- or anti-chalcedonian, Joe unhesitatingly replied that he was pro-chalcedonian, and added, “Of course, he was an Armenian Catholic.” He also expressed the thought that this proclamation of Pope Francis could be helpful for the reunion of the members of the Armenian “National Church” with Rome. The words in quotes were his: he does not like the term “Armenian Apostolic,” because he holds it is based on fabricated history. Joe is going to try to find some things he can send me on the matter.

    Meantime, if any of our readers is learned in Armenian Catholic matters, I would love to have anything you can contribute in the comboxes about Saint Gregory’s Catholicity.

    I found this yesterday, when I was looking on that website, which I don't often do, and I thought it was interesting to see what the view of "Feeneyites in communion with Rome" was.


    The fact that there's even a question on this issue, to the point where we have to consult obscure Armenians to determine whether or not the guy was Catholic, says all that needs to be said.

    Confiteor unum baptisma in remissionem peccatorum. - Nicene Creed


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    New doctor of the Church?
    « Reply #62 on: June 05, 2015, 09:55:29 AM »
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  • he was a  catholic[/i] saint of the armenian rite.
    all the eastern rite saints are not in the roman martyrology it is the Roman Martyrology not the Synaxarion of the Armenians :whistleblower:

    he was not a follower of monophysitism

    do some simple research and not just your favorite blog. maybe read about the church and if not familliar ask[/i] before you use a thread to spread gossip just because you dont recognize bergoglio. You make us sound ignorant.

    Hey look what that website cath info has to say! the world is watching us they are always watching!
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    New doctor of the Church?
    « Reply #63 on: June 05, 2015, 11:37:25 AM »
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    the world is watching us


    Not really.  But the rest of your point was well taken.

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    New doctor of the Church?
    « Reply #64 on: June 09, 2015, 01:00:29 PM »
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    the world is watching us


    Not really.  But the rest of your point was well taken.


    The sad reality is that if the world is watching at all, it's to laugh.  Either to laugh or to declare publicly that the Church now agrees with the World and that Catholics should lighten up and turn to local media outlets for all guidance.  

     :pray: ---->That souls in danger find their way the an SSPX or Sede Chapel.


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    Re: New doctor of the Church?
    « Reply #65 on: December 24, 2022, 01:02:50 PM »
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  • that an Armenian heretic
    I retract and apologize for the claim that he was actually a heretic, because I have no proof of this.
    I apologize for all rude, calumnious, uncharitable, and unchristian posts I have made, and I retract them.