Author Topic: New abortion clinics (Read 1072 times)

songbird · « **on:** February 01, 2013, 06:03:38 PM »

I have read in the news about many abortion clinics closing and I had to ponder this issue. The new health care reform would never stop abortion. I read an article of a state, I think was Mississippi or Arkansas. In the article it explains that the state law will change and doctors will be required to be OB/GYN. So, abortion is NOT out of the picture only in a different locality. Notice that all hospitals nations wide are taking on to the reform. They are merging, closing, making New hospitals and 25% downsizing. I do believe it is in the dreams of Hilary Clinton, that all schools are to be linked or based clinics. In 1990, we called them Sex clinics. In the reform ALL schools must have a link to A hospital. It appears that we will have abortion in the hospitals and that is not new. Don't get your hopes up that clinics are closing they are just moving. IN my area, they are boasting of a new hospital with a saints name and it's major hospital was just yelled at for doing abortions. Well that is not new, for they had done them in the past decades. Who is fooling who?! If you child is in any public school, just ask about the clinic they have or are linked to and you will find their hospital as well. Imagine your child going to the school nurse pregnant. Then your child/teen is bussed to the hospital in the morning and back home in the afternoon, you know nothing. That is how the state bills that were passed are set-up.

If you know anything about this issue, I am all ears!

Telesphorus · « **Reply #1 on:** February 01, 2013, 08:24:31 PM »

This country is doomed.

Sigismund · « **Reply #2 on:** February 01, 2013, 09:32:55 PM »

This is a minor point in the face of such a horrible thing, but how could anyone ever be foreced into a particualr specialty?

PenitentWoman · « **Reply #3 on:** February 04, 2013, 03:16:49 PM »

Mississippi will be closing the only abortion clinic they have. It will be much harder to access the "service" so I can only see that as a positive. Do you have a link that explains the forced OB thing? That is scary, buy hopefully not true.

In Arkansas they are trying to pass the heartbeat bill which would forbid an abortion once a heartbeat can be dectected. The problem is that this bill gives an exemption for rape. Somehow an unborn, innocent child is considered less valuable if the circuмstances of conception didn't include consent. So essentially, babies who may have been sent by God to bring bad from good would still be up for slaughter. Further, the amount of false rape claims will skyrocket. Men should be even more terrified of falling to sins of the flesh under a lukewarm law like that.

for the precious unborn.

songbird · « **Reply #4 on:** February 04, 2013, 03:55:14 PM »

Yes, the link is TheRawStory.com. I went to google and typed in abortion clinic closures and got the link. Be sure to read the entire story and it will say what you want to know about abortion not ending. Mississippi Passed a HB 1390 in April, and signed by Republican legislators which requires the abortion clinic doctors to be OB/GYN in order to gain admitting privileges at local hospitals.

When I read in the news of the number of states closing abortion clinics, it was to good to be true. Now, try picketing a hospital? You can ponder that. Every hospital and every medical clinic is of the reformation services and it came about with school based and linked clinics the dream of Hilary Clinton.

songbird · « **Reply #5 on:** February 04, 2013, 04:08:58 PM »

Here is a question I have: Would this Bill HB1390 require the already existing OB/GYN's to DO abortions if they have opted out? This is scary for those doctors! Even if your state has on the books "religious exemption" it won't hold. That is scary! Why won't it hold? Because the hospital can say and does say, we will not hire unless they do ALL that is required! If a young lady goes for an abortion in the hospital and she bleeds to death, who will know?! Where as in a private clinic you could see it. Now what will they say? Abortion is safer still? Because it is in a hospital. Every hospital should have changed their names years ago that were catholic. St. Joes of PHX was known to have abortions for decades. Nurses left there because of it. And then a Bishop comes along and plays a card and claims the hospital not catholic, true, but in this case it made the Bishop look Pro-life which he is not. The dioceses monies continue to go to UNited Way and CCHD that serve the agenda of the federal gov't, immorality, sins of the flesh and such. Very, Very sad,,many prayers!

songbird · « **Reply #6 on:** February 04, 2013, 04:14:53 PM »

Another thing to consider. the Republicans can make bills that look Pro-life knowing that they will not pass. It is the spinning of wheels for us who have hope and prayer. Pro-life agendas work for those who wish to keep a good look as long as the fad goes. Again very sad, and many prayers. Not all Pro-life orgs are pro-life and I can't find one New Order Bishop that is truly Pro-life as long as they continue to advertise for money for their United Way orgs and call them CAtholic orgs. And we were all warned about CCHD: Campaign for Human Development. There is no soul in these groups. So, any clergy can speak sweet words of pro-life but the truth is the fruits = $.

PenitentWoman · « **Reply #7 on:** February 04, 2013, 04:35:25 PM »

I don't think there is anything pending right now that would force OB doctors to give abortions. Also, private, pro life practices are growing.

It is never enough, but I still think the Mississippi clinic closing is a good thing. The traffic that went to this clinic was massive in number. It will be very hard (currently at least) for a woman to find a doctor to perform an elective abortion. Maybe some women will realize it isn't like going to get your nails done at the strip mall.

I am not certain, but doctors may be able to exercise a conscience clause type law and refuse to offer such services. Also, OB malpractice insurance is so expensive, I would imagine it would be difficult to force that speciality.

I will try to be optimistic because it gives me hope. There is no reason to give up. When I see a newborn baby, I just think to myself that surely God must believe that the world should go on and that there is hope.

songbird · « **Reply #8 on:** February 04, 2013, 04:52:54 PM »

states are moving to remove these exempt clauses. In our state they are not removed, but medical staff of all Banner hospitals made in mandatory to take flu shots or corrective actions =loss of job, would take place. All those applying for a job must take the flu shot or they would not be hired. EVEN THOUGH the state still has the exemption clause, it doesn't work anymore. And Pharmacists had to fight the issue with the Morning after. Yes, watch and see. We have Pro-life doctors who deliver babies. But who pays them? It is the State for those who can not afford. The Health care reform is in place by 20 years or more already. Those doctors can not survive without being paid. The Reform calls for the state health care for those who can not afford to come to an end. In this state, it was to stop 2012. Things are not going to get better, only worse. We have no vote or say in the matter. All businesses have paid into the Reform. A done deal! Very Sad!

Look up Ration: end-of-life. It made PBS as a debate. It is no debate, it is. Very Sad.

songbird · « **Reply #9 on:** February 13, 2013, 10:19:55 PM »

Life site news says another abortion clinic closes. Really? Do we honestly think that abortion is going away? Sad to say, I don't think so, and I still think that the health care reform has the hospitals lined up to do the dirty work.

John Grace · « **Reply #10 on:** February 14, 2013, 11:23:10 AM »

Prayer and Action is always necessary.

John Grace · « **Reply #11 on:** February 14, 2013, 11:33:09 AM »

As you know they are proposing to legislate for abortion in Ireland.

Donachie · « **Reply #12 on:** February 14, 2013, 11:50:19 AM »

Quote from: songbird

Here is a question I have: Would this Bill HB1390 require the already existing OB/GYN's to DO abortions if they have opted out? This is scary for those doctors! Even if your state has on the books "religious exemption" it won't hold. That is scary! Why won't it hold? Because the hospital can say and does say, we will not hire unless they do ALL that is required! If a young lady goes for an abortion in the hospital and she bleeds to death, who will know?! Where as in a private clinic you could see it. Now what will they say? Abortion is safer still? Because it is in a hospital. Every hospital should have changed their names years ago that were catholic. St. Joes of PHX was known to have abortions for decades. Nurses left there because of it. And then a Bishop comes along and plays a card and claims the hospital not catholic, true, but in this case it made the Bishop look Pro-life which he is not. The dioceses monies continue to go to UNited Way and CCHD that serve the agenda of the federal gov't, immorality, sins of the flesh and such. Very, Very sad,,many prayers!

The circles of corruption and vice in America are only getting stronger and more intense. The Federal government will never go back. They will never go back on the ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic agenda and all their power that has been accuмulated.

It's apocalytpic like Tenochtitlan before Cortes. Moctezuma and Libor, the City of London global financial centers, are riding high right now. (I'm in favor of "Cortes" not "Moctezuma".)

It's like bad money chases out good money and bad blood chases out good blood. The Federal government will not stop being bad. Aztecs don't stop being Aztecs on their own.

Chastisements and more severe conflicts and dislocation and disorder must be coming. Pray the rosary and the Hours and novenas, etc.

The environment is toxic so keeping up your morale and goodwill is an accomplishment.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2278457/CDC-warns-Valentines-Day-eve-severe-epidemic-sɛҳuąƖly-transmitted-diseases-sweeping-nation.html

America is like Dr. Phil and Oprah on drugs and Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew and Ellen Degeneres and "Madonna". A ticket of doom.