Author Topic: Franciscan Monk Beheaded by IslamoFascists in Syria (Read 6499 times)

Zeitun · « **Reply #15 on:** July 01, 2013, 02:13:46 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

What is the cause of this video being online?

Last week the Supreme Court of the United States
(SCOTUS) ruled that the Defense of Marriage Act is
"unconstitutional."

It is a formal, deliberate attack on the sanctity of Marriage.

And so, as a consequence, there are now beheadings of
Catholics.

It's too bad the victims are not the correct ones.

In God's justice, for a time, the victims would seem to be
opposite what they should be, e.g., the Crucifixion.

But make no mistake about it.

In 1973, the SCOTUS ruled in Roe vs. Wade and as a
consequence some 80 million babies have been sacrificed
to the devil-god Moloch. An innocent child is a most
delicious delicacy for the devil's voracious appetite for
souls.

And now, as the SCOTUS persists in its pernicious and
diabolical trend, there are beheadings of the faithful
remnant who would oppose such vile and evil rulings.

Show me one child who was ever in favor of his own being
aborted in the womb.

Anybody who cannot watch this video really ought to think
about that fact when they think about abortion, because
it's the same thing. Abortions cut up bodies too, and
usually a lot more than a mere removal of its head.

www.silentscream.org

jozeftiso1947 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 01, 2013, 02:32:52 PM »

Quote from: Novus Weirdo

Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
Islamo-fascist is a neo-con word used to heighten the senses about the supposed "threat" of terrorism. There is no such thing as "Islamo-fascism." Obviously there have been atrocities on both sides, the main reason we need to stay out.

Ah, so you would have preferred the thread to be titled, "Franciscan Monk Beheaded by Fanatical Practitioners of the Peaceful Religion of Islam"?

Traditional Guy 20 is right on the money; the Islamo-Fascist term is pure idiocy, and plays into the narrative pushed by the Jєωιѕн controlled media. Most of the "Islamist rebels" are financed by Israel, and there must be at least a significant percentage who are actually Arabic Jews who are rejected by Israel. Everybody knows how bad black/Arabic Jews are treated by their lighter complexion Christ-denying khazarian Jew, so it makes sense that Israel/Mossad could kill two birds with one stone- 1.)De-stabilize anti-Israeli regimes (Syria/Lebanon/Libya), while at the same time expelling their undesirables.

Its also established that CIA/MI6/Mossad are behind these "ѕυιcιdє bombings" in Iraq and around the region. Lets not forget the USS Liberty attack by Israel in 1969 posing as arabs, the King David Hotel Bombing, 9/11, etc.

And the term "fascist" used in a derogatory sense is certainly inappropriate. Fascism is perfectly compatible with Catholic principles, as opposed to ʝʊdɛօ-masonic dominated liberal democracies.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #17 on:** July 01, 2013, 02:40:55 PM »

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I'm glad you brought this up, Traditional Guy:

Quote from: Traditional Guy 20

Islamo-fascist is a neo-con word used to heighten the senses about the supposed "threat" of terrorism.

There is no such thing as "Islamo-fascism."

Obviously there have been atrocities on both sides, the main reason we need to stay out.

The only real terrorists are people like the Supreme Court of the US,
the Pres., Nancy Peℓσѕι, Joe Biden, Al Gore, and so on -- they're tearing
apart the country, basically. Now they're using their psycho-strategy to
gear up for war in Syria. How many American soldiers will be losing their
heads over this upcoming involvement? Who wants to sign up for getting
your head removed slowly with a series of kitchen knives?

Quote from: Elizabeth

Quote from: Frances
I'll have nightmares about this, but felt compelled to watch it. "

I don't think I could bear to watch this, but my intuition tells me this is a very important event.

Prayers for the soul of Fr. Murad. If there is any more info I'd love to know more.

For the record, before it gets removed, the page showing the
video says the following:

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"Syrian rebels behead Bishop François Murad

This video shows Syrian rebels slaughtering three people in the countryside of Edlib, including the Metropolitan “François Murad”, who was patron of Sumaan al-Amoudi Monastery, under the charge of dealing with the government and the Syrian Army; the video shows people who speak Arabic with a broken accent, saying that through this act, they are applying the law of God."

The people are in fact shouting a chant, "Allah is great!" And that is
then mistranslated to "God is great." But Allah is a devil.

There's a lot of misinformation - Syrian Catholics say the name Allah is
the word for "God" in their language.

So then why does the devil during many real exorcisms, when
commanded to reveal his name, say that it is "Allah?" That is the one
time that what the devil says cannot be a deception, because of the
power of Christ over the demons and what they say. Why does the
devil named "Allah" show that he is in control of large numbers of
Mohammedans, as if to say they are possessed by Allah the devil?

Someone has really done a fast trick in Syria, because in the rest of
the world, when we say "God" we mean "God," but Allah is a devil.

Zeitun · « **Reply #18 on:** July 01, 2013, 02:59:36 PM »

It doesn't matter what term is used--they are ALL enemies of Christ. Don't be a tool of the devil and argue that there is a difference between mohammedans and islamo-fascists. There isn't. As a matter of fact they serve the same god as the Jews and our corrupt US guvmint and military.

St. Peter Canisius:

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"Who is to be called a Christian? He who confesses the doctrine of Christ and His Church. Hence, he is truly a Christian thoroughly condemns and detests, the Jєωιѕн, Mohammedan, and the heretical cults and sects."

Don't fall for the Hegelian dialectic.

alaric · « **Reply #19 on:** July 01, 2013, 04:20:39 PM »

Quote from: PereJoseph

Quote from: alaric
...Allah willing.

... :confused1:

I know that that is the Arabic word for God, but perhaps you should be a little more careful about giving the wrong impression.

It's a play on words Frenchie, I thought you would understand my posting style and attempts at humor by now.

I'm quite aware of the difference between when the Arab Christian and the Arab Moslem means when he refers to Allah.

brainglitch · « **Reply #20 on:** July 01, 2013, 04:24:56 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

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I'm glad you brought this up, Traditional Guy:

Quote from: Traditional Guy 20

Islamo-fascist is a neo-con word used to heighten the senses about the supposed "threat" of terrorism.

There is no such thing as "Islamo-fascism."

Obviously there have been atrocities on both sides, the main reason we need to stay out.

The only real terrorists are people like the Supreme Court of the US,
the Pres., Nancy Peℓσѕι, Joe Biden, Al Gore, and so on -- they're tearing
apart the country, basically. Now they're using their psycho-strategy to
gear up for war in Syria. How many American soldiers will be losing their
heads over this upcoming involvement? Who wants to sign up for getting
your head removed slowly with a series of kitchen knives?

Quote from: Elizabeth
Quote from: Frances
I'll have nightmares about this, but felt compelled to watch it. "

I don't think I could bear to watch this, but my intuition tells me this is a very important event.

Prayers for the soul of Fr. Murad. If there is any more info I'd love to know more.

For the record, before it gets removed, the page showing the
video says the following:

Quote

"Syrian rebels behead Bishop François Murad

This video shows Syrian rebels slaughtering three people in the countryside of Edlib, including the Metropolitan “François Murad”, who was patron of Sumaan al-Amoudi Monastery, under the charge of dealing with the government and the Syrian Army; the video shows people who speak Arabic with a broken accent, saying that through this act, they are applying the law of God."

The people are in fact shouting a chant, "Allah is great!" And that is
then mistranslated to "God is great." But Allah is a devil.

There's a lot of misinformation - Syrian Catholics say the name Allah is
the word for "God" in their language.

So then why does the devil during many real exorcisms, when
commanded to reveal his name, say that it is "Allah?" That is the one
time that what the devil says cannot be a deception, because of the
power of Christ over the demons and what they say. Why does the
devil named "Allah" show that he is in control of large numbers of
Mohammedans, as if to say they are possessed by Allah the devil?

Someone has really done a fast trick in Syria, because in the rest of
the world, when we say "God" we mean "God," but Allah is a devil.

The Maltese word for God is Alla.

I believe that you are wrong here, Neil. As with many other things. The Arabic word for God is Allah. Unfortunately the Muslims use the same word for their false worship.

alaric · « **Reply #21 on:** July 01, 2013, 04:25:44 PM »

Quote from: Traditional Guy 20

Islamo-fascist is a neo-con word used to heighten the senses about the supposed "threat" of terrorism. There is no such thing as "Islamo-fascism." Obviously there have been atrocities on both sides, the main reason we need to stay out.

Of course we need to stay out, but the more you realize it's not "we" pulling the strings over there, the more you realize what's really going on.

Question: Who benefits the most in sectarian violence in the Arab moslem world?

Clue: Not the U.S.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #22 on:** July 01, 2013, 04:47:46 PM »

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And at the bottom of the page it has this:

From the Fides News Agency (news agency of the Vatican)
On Sunday, June 23 the Syrian priest François Murad was killed in Gassanieh, in northern Syria, in the convent of the Custody of the Holy Land where he had taken refuge. This is confirmed by a statement of the Custos of the Holy Land sent to Fides Agency. The circuмstances of the death are not fully understood. According to local sources, the monastery where Fr. Murad was staying was attacked by militants linked to the jihadi group Jabhat al-Nusra.
Father François, 49, had taken the first steps in the religious life with the Franciscan Friars of the Custody of the Holy Land, and with them he continued to share close bonds of spiritual friendship. After being ordained a priest he had started the construction of a coenobitic monastery dedicated to St. Simon Stylites in the village of Gassanieh.After the start of the cινιℓ ωαr, the monastery of St. Simon had been bombed and Fr. Murad had moved to the convent of the Custody for safety reasons and to give support to the remaining few, along with another religious and nuns of the Rosary.
"Let us pray," writes the Custos of the Holy Land Pierbattista Pizzaballa OFM " so that this absurd and shameful war ends soon and that the people of Syria can go back to living a normal life." Archbishop Jacques Behnan Hindo, titular of the Syrian Catholic archeparchy in Hassaké-Nisibis reports to Fides: "The whole story of Christians in the Middle East is marked and made fruitful by the blood of the martyrs of many persecutions. Lately, father Murad sent me some messages that clearly showed how conscious he was of living in a dangerous situation, and offered his life for peace in Syria and around the world. " .
http://www.news.va/en/news/asiasyria-a-catholic-priest-killed-bishop-hindo-he

It was posted by someone who is not a native English speaker.
After the typos are fixed, it looks like this:

From the Fides News Agency (news agency of the Vatican)

On Sunday, June 23rd, the Syrian priest François Murad was killed in Gassanieh, in northern Syria, in the convent of the Custody of the Holy Land where he had taken refuge. This is confirmed by a statement of the Custos of the Holy Land sent to Fides Agency. The circuмstances of the death are not fully understood. According to local sources, the monastery where Fr. Murad was staying was attacked by militants linked to the jihadi group Jabhat al-Nusra.

Father François, 49, had taken the first steps in the religious life with the Franciscan Friars of the Custody of the Holy Land, and with them he continued to share close bonds of spiritual friendship. After being ordained a priest he had started the construction of a coenobitic monastery dedicated to St. Simon Stylites in the village of Gassanieh. After the start of the cινιℓ ωαr, the monastery of St. Simon had been bombed and Fr. Murad had moved to the convent of the Custody for safety reasons and to give support to the remaining few, along with another religious and nuns of the Rosary.

"Let us pray," writes the Custos of the Holy Land Pierbattista Pizzaballa OFM, "so that this absurd and shameful war ends soon and that the people of Syria can go back to living a normal life." Archbishop Jacques Behnan Hindo, titular of the Syrian Catholic archeparchy in Hassaké-Nisibis reports to Fides: "The whole story of Christians in the Middle East is marked and made fruitful by the blood of the martyrs of many persecutions. Lately, father Murad sent me some messages that clearly showed how conscious he was of living in a dangerous situation, and offered his life for peace in Syria and around the world."

http://www.news.va/en/news/asiasyria-a-catholic-priest-killed-bishop-hindo-he

How many more Catholics will have to "offer their lives for peace in the
world" before the Pope and bishops consecrate Russia to the IHM as Our
Lady asked 84 years ago?

Zeitun · « **Reply #23 on:** July 01, 2013, 04:52:35 PM »

Quote from: alaric

I'm quite aware of the difference between when the Arab Christian and the Arab Moslem means when he refers to Allah.

Sarcasm doesn't come across well in this forum without an emoticon of some kind.

Frances · « **Reply #24 on:** July 01, 2013, 06:22:18 PM »

A clarification for Neil and everyone else! By "used to be normal" I am referring to the Age of Martyrs, when being Catholic = martyrdom. In many places, it IS normal as Neil points out. What we spoiled Westerners do not recognize, is that those who will behead us are our neighbors. It is only a matter of time, and that is running much shorter than most of us think. Are we ready to die for our faith? I'd like to think I am, but I honestly don't know. Pray for me!

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 01, 2013, 08:03:02 PM »

Quote from: Novus Weirdo

Ah, so you would have preferred the thread to be titled, "Franciscan Monk Beheaded by Fanatical Practitioners of the Peaceful Religion of Islam"?

Don't be stupid, obviously not all Muslims are terrorists, that being said Islam is barbaric and inferior to Christianity. My only point of the post was to show how you have to be careful about the terms you use, since the term 'fascist' has been a term of hate and abuse used by the Left against the Right since the 1930's. It inaccurately describes the faith of a billion people with an odious ideology.

It is not surprising that neoconservatives use the term "Islamo-fascism" since neoconservatives came out of the Trotskyist-Social Democratic Left.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 01, 2013, 08:04:37 PM »

Quote from: Zeitun

TradGuy20-maybe you can see the spiritual significance of the video and not get caught up in semantics.

How would Christians have reacted had FDR called Franco's Spain and Mussolini's Italy "Christo-fascist"?

poche · « **Reply #27 on:** July 04, 2013, 12:35:58 AM »

Actually the video was not a Franciscan friar;

The news published this morning by news agency MCN Direct regarding the alleged beheading of three Franciscan friars in Syria is apparently false. This morning, Radio France also reported the alleged kidnapping and killing of the three Franciscans, together with Fr. Francois Mourad (killed on Monday in the monastery of Al-Ghassaniyah). But the video showing the execution was promptly removed from the news agency’s website and later this morning some sources in the Custody of the Holy Land confirmed there was no evidence of the execution. “We have received no such news.

We have not heard anything about the death of one of our friars. We called Syria and there was no news of a beheading. They are all alive. After reading what some of the media have been saying, it seems like various old news stories have been mixed up. We are not aware of an execution having taken place,” the Custodian of the Holy Land, Fr. Pierbattista Pizzaballa, told Italian Religious Information Service SIR, denying any execution had taken place.

The friars are apparently alive and are currently in the Franciscan monastery of Latakia, where they arrived a few days ago, to bury the body of their brother, Fr. Mourad. The video was posted by Jihadists and shows a group of other men – possibly also an Orthodox monk – being beheaded at the sound of the war-cry “Allah U Akbar” (God is great).

According to the rebels, a friar apparently had the phone numbers of some of Assad’s army officers stored on his mobile phone and was killed because of his alleged complicity with the regime. But according to the official of the Franciscan Order in Syria Father Halim Nujaym, “No one has stayed in the monastery since Monday.” Meanwhile, the names of the individuals whose lives were taken away so brutally in the beheading video are yet to be revealed.

http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/world-news/detail/articolo/siria-syria-siria-chiesa-church-iglesia-26059/

Donachie · « **Reply #28 on:** July 04, 2013, 12:46:37 AM »

Quote from: Zeitun

What an extraordinary grace to be a witness to a martyrdom. We will be praying for Fr. Murad.

TradGuy20-maybe you can see the spiritual significance of the video and not get caught up in semantics.

If you get a thumbs down here, it won't be from me, but that is not how I feel about the topic here at all.

I refuse to watch videos that have WARNING GRAPHIC and tell me what happened anyway in cases like this. The Satanic Muslims who do this hope people watch it, because it completely humiliates the victim and they get sicko excitement by the horror. I will not watch any of this sort of thing.

The Muslims should be nuked. Nuke 'em and rebuke 'em.

I'd push the button. No joke.