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Offline Binechi

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  • Read and Weep Folks ,, The US of A , has just become US of gαy......

    Catch on "Drudge Report"


    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/06/26/national-cathedral-rings-bells-to-cheer-gαy-marriage/

    Court strikes down Defense of Marriage Act..
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    Scalia dissent: 'Diseased root: an exalted notion of the role of this court in American democratic society'...

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    SCALIA: Kennedy Has Declared Us 'Enemies of the Human Race'...
     
    ALITO: 'Constitution Does Not Guarantee the Right to Enter Into a Same-Sex Marriage'...
     
    TIME: 'One of fastest civil rights shifts in nation's history'...

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    OBAMA: I won't force churches to conduct gαy weddings...

    Interrupts Activists' MSNBC Interview to Give Congratulatory Call...

    PENTAGON EXTENDS BENEFITS TO gαy SERVICE SPOUSES...

    CT Governor Raises Rainbow Flag At Official Residence...
    National Cathedral Rings Bells To Celebrate...


    Offline Capt McQuigg

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    « Reply #1 on: June 26, 2013, 03:58:47 PM »
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  • The U.S. will get worse in the future.


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    « Reply #2 on: June 26, 2013, 03:58:52 PM »
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  • To be clear, the so-called "National Cathedral" is not Catholic (neither traditional nor N.O.), nor does it claim to be.  It is a Protestant, and more specifically, Episcopal, building.

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    « Reply #3 on: June 26, 2013, 04:05:20 PM »
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  • Quote from: d15
    To be clear, the so-called "National Cathedral" is not Catholic (neither traditional nor N.O.), nor does it claim to be.  It is a Protestant, and more specifically, Episcopal, building.


    True, but it shows how excited they are about this.  These people are worse than Protestants, they are are against the design of God's creation itself!
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    « Reply #4 on: June 26, 2013, 04:22:23 PM »
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  • Quote from: d15
    To be clear, the so-called "National Cathedral" is not Catholic (neither traditional nor N.O.), nor does it claim to be.  It is a Protestant, and more specifically, Episcopal, building.


    My error , thank you for the correction
    D.


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    « Reply #5 on: June 26, 2013, 04:48:50 PM »
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  • How many novus ordo churches even have bells anymore?

    I guess we can thank god for that.
    Regina Angelorum, ora pro nobis!

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    « Reply #6 on: June 26, 2013, 06:52:54 PM »
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    How many novus ordo churches even have bells anymore?

    Interesting note..  Some of the older towns still have them, but never ring them.
    To the Protestant s credit , in the old towns around me, They play the bell music thru their towers.  Lights up the whole town .  Such peacfull sounds.  

    How about the Traditional Chapels ,, how many can you name that ring them at the Consecration, or before or after Mass.  How many more would come to the doors, to find the true Mass, if they did ring them.   Some thoughts.  

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    « Reply #7 on: June 26, 2013, 10:33:02 PM »
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  • Quote from: Capt McQuigg
    The U.S. will get worse in the future.



    That is to say, if the U.S. even HAS a future.  At this rate, the
    wrath of God hangs low on the horizon.  If it were not for the
    valid Masses being offered and the prayers of the Faithful, this
    country would be done for.  Let history be our teacher.



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    How many novus ordo churches even have bells anymore?

    I guess we can thank god for that.


    Interesting note..  Some of the older towns still have them, but never ring them.
    To the Protestant s credit , in the old towns around me, They play the bell music thru their towers.  Lights up the whole town .  Such peacfull sounds.  




    As a child in the 60's I recall hearing bells from church towers,
    mostly protestant, and they rang various melodies.  The only
    places where I've heard the real thing has been in Vatican
    city at St. Peter's and at the plaza of St. Mark's in Venice.  
    I think the sound of the Venice bells is more impressive
    somehow.  Something about the way Venizia does things, I
    guess.  But to think that church towers all over Europe used
    to do that -- it's one of the principle casualties of the two
    world wars, methinks.  



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    How about the Traditional Chapels ,, how many can you name that ring them at the Consecration, or before or after Mass.  How many more would come to the doors, to find the true Mass, if they did ring them.   Some thoughts.  



    Time was, when bells were a natural thing, they would ring for Mass a few
    minutes in advance, and they would ring for the consecration, and they
    would ring 3 times a day for the Angelus (or Regina Coeli), and they would
    ring for a special, joyous occasion like a wedding, or an ordination.  At
    monasteries and convents they rang for the Divine Office, almost every
    3 hours every day.

    And they would ring for someone's death:  

    Ask not for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
    (the worldly E. Hemingway, 1940, borrowed a line from John Donne 316 years prior):


    There was a contention as far as a suit (in which piety and dignity, religion and estimation, were mingled) which of the religious orders should ring to prayers first in the morning; and it was determined that they should ring first that rose earliest. If we understand aright the dignity of this bell that tolls for our evening prayer, we would be glad to make it ours by rising early, in that application, that it might be ours as well as his whose indeed it is. The bell doth toll for him that thinks it doth; and though it intermit again, yet from that minute that that occasion wrought upon him, he is united to God. Who casts not up his eye to the sun when it rises? But who takes off his eye from a comet when that breaks out? Who bends not his ear to any bell which upon any occasion rings? But who can remove it from that bell which is passing a piece of himself out of this world? * No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were. Any man's death diminishes me because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. . . .
    (from Meditation 17 by John Donne, A.D. 1624)

                           
    * From Wikipedia (more literal transcription here):

    "No man is an Island, intire of it selfe; every man is a peece of the Continent, a part of the maine; if a Clod bee washed away by the Sea, Europe is the lesse, as well as if a Promontorie were, as well as if a Mannor of thy friends or of thine owne were; any mans death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankinde; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee."



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    « Reply #8 on: June 26, 2013, 10:57:41 PM »
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  • It seems that the day is coming that Catholics may have to consider fleeing the United States, especially those with children.

    If things keep going the way it is going, I think it I'd only a matter of time before they mandate "diversity" education on all children, even the homeschooled.

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    « Reply #9 on: June 26, 2013, 11:21:33 PM »
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  • Diversity and Tolerance education is already mandated in public schools in six states.  Once this goes national, watch out.  I predict a federal law in the near future, to be followed by major punishments from Heaven.  As Our Lady warns, "The good and the bad will suffer."  Where will Christian families go when they flee the U.S.?  More likely people will conceal their children, much as is done in China.  
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

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    « Reply #10 on: June 27, 2013, 12:13:47 AM »
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  • Quote from: Frances
    Diversity and Tolerance education is already mandated in public schools in six states.  Once this goes national, watch out.  I predict a federal law in the near future, to be followed by major punishments from Heaven.  As Our Lady warns, "The good and the bad will suffer."  Where will Christian families go when they flee the U.S.?  More likely people will conceal their children, much as is done in China.  


    I think the irony may be that Russia will be safer for Cathoilcs than the U.S.
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    « Reply #11 on: June 27, 2013, 10:42:51 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ambrose
    It seems that the day is coming that Catholics may have to consider fleeing the United States, especially those with children.

    If things keep going the way it is going, I think it I'd only a matter of time before they mandate "diversity" education on all children, even the homeschooled.



    Perhaps there will come a time when Catholics will have to become a reverse "marrano" that publically pretends to be re-educated but secretly continues to hold the True Faith.  


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    « Reply #12 on: June 28, 2013, 05:58:56 AM »
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  • That "National Cathedral" is not a Catholic institution.

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    « Reply #13 on: June 28, 2013, 06:56:07 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ambrose
    It seems that the day is coming that Catholics may have to consider fleeing the United States, especially those with children.

    If things keep going the way it is going, I think it I'd only a matter of time before they mandate "diversity" education on all children, even the homeschooled.



    A Bishop needs to guide parents what to do with educational regulations. Some states it's under private schooling but others you literally have to seek approval to homeschool and then to keep homeschooling. I kind of feel like it's bowing down before Cesar and giving our children as the sacrifice.
    Where is the trad leadership on these issues of state authority that is too far reaching?
    I think Bishop Williamson is right that it will take blood. Most Christians think state says so I better jump.

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    « Reply #14 on: June 28, 2013, 12:11:55 PM »
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  • Quote from: Zeitun
    Perhaps there will come a time when Catholics will have to become a reverse "marrano" that publically pretends to be re-educated but secretly continues to hold the True Faith.


    Catholics are called to defend Christ and his Church even unto death. The moment a Catholic chooses to lie about his faith in order to save his life he is no longer a Catholic.