Author Topic: Name of God (Read 3537 times)

Phyllo · « **on:** March 04, 2015, 11:24:08 AM »

Hi,

I am in a discussion with a JW who tells me that in EX 3: 13-15 JB :

Then Moses said to God, I am to go,then, to the sons of Israel and say to them, The God of your fathers has sent me to you. But if they ask me what his name is, what am I to tell them? And God said to Moses. I am who I am. This he added is what you must say to the sons of Israel: I am has sent me to you. And God also said to Moses, you are to say to the sons of Israel: Yahweh, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is my name for all time: by this name I shall be invoked for all generations.,

She is telling me that I am who I am is not a name and that his name was known in Gen 4:1 JB:

The man had intercourse with his wife Eve, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain. I have aquired a man with the help of Yahweh.

Other bibles have the Lord instead of Yahweh.

Naturally the NWT has Jehovah.

Lord in the Hebrew text is # H3068 in the Strongs concordance which means the proper name of the True God.

So when God says his name is I am who I am what does he mean?

Thanks

Ladislaus · « **Reply #1 on:** March 04, 2015, 01:37:29 PM »

Actually the name "Jehovah" does not exist.

It's a combination of the consonants of "Yahweh" with the vowels of "Adonai" mixed in. Jews did this because they would replace "Yahweh" in the Scriptures with "Adonai", so they added Adonai vowel points as a reminder and also because they were not allowed to alter the main text itself (which in Hebrew consisted primarily of the consonants).

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #2 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:10:33 PM »

I believe in the rule that you do not engage in any discussion with any non Catholic without establishing authority. One should not discuss / debate doctrine without establishing this prior to the discussion. The big picture defines Truth. I've been using this approach since my novus ordo days, and it usually knocks the legs out from under them.

"What's Your Authority?"

from another site:
http://recoveredcatholic.com/2012/07/30/jehovahswitnessesauthority/

excerpt:

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<Catholic to JW> " ...the Catholic Church is the only Christian body that has the God-given authority to define anything related to our faith. If you can prove otherwise, we’ll consider converting. In the meantime, all other doctrinal issues are secondary. We must agree on authority before we can even discuss anything else.”

Don't fall into JW traps. YOU set the discussion parameters, if you engage at all.

Phyllo · « **Reply #3 on:** March 04, 2015, 03:30:58 PM »

I appreciate all the advice. She and I are friends and do discuss religion. She is the reason why I have a wonderful little Catholic library. She is the reason I have a lot more knowledge about my faith. You see, I don't believe what she says so I look it up. If I can't find it I come here for some insight.

So having said that, is there any one who can answer my original question?

Thanks

Phyllo · « **Reply #4 on:** March 04, 2015, 03:32:57 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus

Actually the name "Jehovah" does not exist.

It's a combination of the consonants of "Yahweh" with the vowels of "Adonai" mixed in. Jews did this because they would replace "Yahweh" in the Scriptures with "Adonai", so they added Adonai vowel points as a reminder and also because they were not allowed to alter the main text itself (which in Hebrew consisted primarily of the consonants).

Yes, I know that name doesn't exist. The KJ and the NWT use it though and it was the NWT I was talking about.