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Offline InfiniteFaith

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« on: July 30, 2014, 06:24:25 AM »
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  • I had a dream after making my last thread. I am not sure but it may have had something to do with people praying for me. I like to think that at least.

    I have thought about this dream since having it. I wasn't sure if I should share it or not. I guess maybe I am a little afraid of what people might think. Yeah I know that might be surprising to hear considering the things I have posted on this site in the past.

    Anyways, I have decided to share the dream. Here it goes...

    I remember [in the dream] that it was night time...probably around 9-10 pm or so. We were in an open patch of grass surrounded by smaller trees. The area we were in was on a small hill. The sky was lit up by the stars without any trace of clouds. The temperature was perfect. It was so perfect that you didn't need to dress up or dress down because of being too hot or cold. Then there was a slight breeze that felt amazing. There was a small group of us probably around 3 maybe 4. Then there was Christ laying on his back with his hands rested behind His head. We were all starring at Him listening to Him talk. We would each take turns asking Him questions, and many times His answers left us amazed.

     Looking into Christ's eyes had a piercing effect. Looking into His eyes made me realize that He possessed all of the knowledge of the entire universe. But ultimately it did not matter. Because after looking into His eyes, and realizing these things, I began to understand that Love is what God is about ultimately. And the look on Christ's face, as He was talking to us, spoke this in everything He was saying. He had this look of joy (as if He wanted to smile) as He was talking to us and answering our questions. But He didn't really smile...it just looked like He wanted to. He was illuminated in holiness and love as well. I remember, vaguely, Him answering one of the other people's questions. Christ's answer stirred up amazement amongst everyone. Then I looked to my right at one of the other people. I remember Him saying, "so.. time travel is possible" in amazement. And then I realized that I was seeing through the eyes of one of the Apostles. But it was almost like I was sharing the body of an Apostle. Christ was speaking to more than just the Apostle, but He was also speaking to me. And the other member's of our group were other Apostles. I think I was witnessing some of Christ's teachings that were not included in the Bible or any other source. Just stuff between Him and the Apostles. And then I remember talking to Him telling Him about how I had just received my Bachelor's degree in Business, and how I couldn't find a very good job. His response was, "Why did you want to get your college degree again?". He was asking me this because He wanted me to think about His question. But I remembered that I sat there and thought about it, but I couldn't remember why I even made this decision. So I couldn't answer His question. I even thought about this question, for the next day or 2, after having this dream. And the answer came to me after 1-2 days. But I will come back to this after I finish the dream...

    Then all of a sudden, it was just me and Christ sitting side by side next to each other. His presence made me aware of my soul, and the marks of sin that are on my soul. It made me feel a deep sorrow, but at the same time His presence made me realize He still loved me. And this eased my sorrow. I remember asking Him more questions. Sometimes His answers seemed vague or it didn't come to Him right away. It would frustrate me. I kept thinking to myself, "but you are God...you should know this".

    Then it was back to the group of us again. Then one of the other Apostle's asked Him another question. He smiled this time, and gave sort of a sigh. He then said "these things don't always come to me right away". He then brushed His hair with one of His hands.

    This part of the dream made me realize the nature of Christ in relation to God the Father. Its almost like the Father's presence with the Son was stronger at certain times than others. There were times where Christ was a man (without sin of course). But then there were times when God the Father would overwhelm Him, and Christ would be illuminated with all of the knowledge and wisdom of God the Father.  
    I later thought about this, after the dream, and thought that maybe it was because God is above all of His creation, and His creation can never be as great as He is. If it were as great as Him then He would be creating Himself (which is not possible because He is infinite). Hence, Christ would show signs of being a man like me and you because Christ was God's creation. Nevertheless, He had no individual soul, and was God at the same time.

    Anyways, going back to the part about having a college degree. It really rung a bell, after the dream, as to why Christ asked me about why I got my Bachelor's degree. I was thinking about this, and couldn't remember why I made this decision a long time ago. Then I was at work, and I was talking with another one of my colleagues. I was talking with him about things that happen in the workplace that I don't like. Then I remember saying, "I decided to get my degree in hopes that I could avoid these kinds of things". Then it hit me as to why I got my degree, and Christ's question in my dream. The fact that Christ asked me that in my dream, and how soon after, the answer to His question came about in the way that it did...made me think that my dream was real.

    And thats why I decided to share it with you here on CathInfo.

    The End.


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    « Reply #1 on: July 30, 2014, 08:25:10 AM »
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    I later thought about this, after the dream, and thought that maybe it was because God is above all of His creation, and His creation can never be as great as He is. If it were as great as Him then He would be creating Himself (which is not possible because He is infinite). Hence, Christ would show signs of being a man like me and you because Christ was God's creation. Nevertheless, He had no individual soul, and was God at the same time.


    Bolded sections are false (heretical).  Christ was not God's creation; Christ is God.  Our Lord's HUMAN NATURE was created by God but Christ Himself was not created.  Our Lord has an individual human soul just like everyone else; He simply had a one divine PERSON (which is not the same as having one soul).

    There was never a time that something "didn't come to" Jesus "right away".  He is God.


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    « Reply #2 on: July 30, 2014, 11:43:23 AM »
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  • You got a degree because to avoid things in the work place you don't like.  Well, that will always be.  Being in the "world" will always give you what you don't like.  Can you change it?  Maybe some, but not much.  Perfection is heaven.  When you get older like me and have been in the world and for what it is, you look forward to the 2nd Home.  So, perfection or Utopia is not of this world,  but suffering is.  We all should have a course in Suffering 101, how to do it and to offer it up for the reward.

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    « Reply #3 on: July 30, 2014, 04:39:54 PM »
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    I later thought about this, after the dream, and thought that maybe it was because God is above all of His creation, and His creation can never be as great as He is. If it were as great as Him then He would be creating Himself (which is not possible because He is infinite). Hence, Christ would show signs of being a man like me and you because Christ was God's creation. Nevertheless, He had no individual soul, and was God at the same time.


    Bolded sections are false (heretical).  Christ was not God's creation; Christ is God.  Our Lord's HUMAN NATURE was created by God but Christ Himself was not created.  Our Lord has an individual human soul just like everyone else; He simply had a one divine PERSON (which is not the same as having one soul).

    There was never a time that something "didn't come to" Jesus "right away".  He is God.


    Christ, as a man, was God's creation.

    He did not have an individual soul like every other human being. The only soul He had was God. In ancient judaism, they believed that human beings have 2 souls. They have individual souls, and they have the soul of God present within them. As a matter of fact, everything has the soul of God present within it because God is infinite and present in all places. Christ only had the soul of God.

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    « Reply #4 on: July 30, 2014, 04:49:15 PM »
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  • I think I may have misinterpreted the dream. Maybe I was not actually seeing through the eyes of an Apostle, but I was present as myself amongst the Apostles.

    I just remember thinking, during the dream, that I must be inside one of the Apostles. I think I was a bit confused at the time about what was going on.


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    « Reply #5 on: July 30, 2014, 05:02:32 PM »
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  • IF, you are wrong to say 'Christ was God's creation' or even 'Christ, (as a man), was God's creation'.

    The Nicene creed contains these words:

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    I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, and born of the Father before all ages. (God of God) light of light, true God of true God. Begotten not made, consubstantial to the Father, by whom all things were made.


    Jesus is uncreated. He was there at and before the creation.
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    « Reply #6 on: July 30, 2014, 10:37:05 PM »
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  • Thank you for sharing the dream Infinite Faith.  Dreams to aboriginal people are very important parts of how the Creator communicates with us.  The "sleeptime" theology of the Australian Aborigines comes to mind.  So dreaming is good thing.

    What I was taught by elders in our community is to not pay attention to one dream in particular (unless there is a strong gut feeling about it) but to look for themes amongst all the dreams, that way you can see the emergence of messaging coming to you from the Creator.

    Translating that indigenous wisdom into our contexts as Catholics, dreams are equally important, but they are imperfect creations of a sort.  I think indigenous practice of looking for patters is applicable and it is perhaps a thing you can share with your confessor or other trusted people who are sensitive to the dreams; discernment is a part that can be done in teams only...

    Sounds though, that you know all of this already and that you are in a process of discernment and you are doing all the right things.  The "creation" thing is a theological concept, but "begotten" not made for me nails it.  

    I didn't get a sense though (and I am not asking you to share anything, it if is personal, it is personal)...of the direction of the dream.  Was the dream simply one of understanding why you got a Bachelor of Commerce?  I am sure I am missing things here.

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    « Reply #7 on: July 30, 2014, 10:55:34 PM »
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  • I did not read the dream, but in a recent sermon the priest said that we are not interpret dreams, or to put any weight on them. He said yes God has done it to a few select souls, but that as a rule, you are to think nothing of it. He did this before talking about St. John Bosco's "dreams", which were actually visions and not dreams.


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    « Reply #8 on: July 30, 2014, 11:23:14 PM »
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    I did not read the dream, but in a recent sermon the priest said that we are not interpret dreams, or to put any weight on them. He said yes God has done it to a few select souls, but that as a rule, you are to think nothing of it. He did this before talking about St. John Bosco's "dreams", which were actually visions and not dreams.


    I think that there is a wisdom not to interprete dreams in a mechanical manner (ie this symbol means that thing, etc.) that is a form of New age apprpriation of traditional knowledge.  My reading and understanding of the catholic take is that dreams are tools of consciousness like everything else.  We would be amiss if we did not listen to the sub-conscious messaging as our brains equally have an importance in letting us know where we are going.

    The word "interpretation" if I used that word is misleading...it is not about "interpreting" it is about sensing what the spirit is saying...hope that is closer to your understanding.  Visions are not limited to great saints, as those humans we call saints were just as normal as you and i...and God's need to communicate is just as real as it always was.

    Take care.

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    « Reply #9 on: July 31, 2014, 07:37:07 AM »
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  • Why don't you just go to one of those savage pagans that Trickster mentioned or a palm reader and tell her about the dream.  She'll probably tell you that you're a reincarnated apostle--perhaps St. Peter himself...  Wow--the implications.


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    « Reply #10 on: July 31, 2014, 07:57:00 AM »
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    Why don't you just go to one of those savage pagans that Trickster mentioned or a palm reader and tell her about the dream.  She'll probably tell you that you're a reincarnated apostle--perhaps St. Peter himself...  Wow--the implications.


    --Snarky Turd


    Whooo, your on a roll today OHCA  :ready-to-eat:  Are you qualified to identify what both "savage" and "pagan" is and how it relates to indigenous thinkers?  I think that is not a responsible statement.  You need to study a bit more about indigenous thinkers and the indigenous world view.  

    It is insulting on your part to bring the occult (palm readers and theories about reincarnation) neither having anything doing with indigenous spirituality.  Are not dreams a gift from God?  Did not Mary have a dream herself when she was to bear the Christ Child?  Think about it my friend and don't take such a narrow view of reality,

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    « Reply #11 on: July 31, 2014, 09:05:31 AM »
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    Why don't you just go to one of those savage pagans that Trickster mentioned or a palm reader and tell her about the dream.  She'll probably tell you that you're a reincarnated apostle--perhaps St. Peter himself...  Wow--the implications.


    --Snarky Turd


    Whooo, your on a roll today OHCA  :ready-to-eat:  Are you qualified to identify what both "savage" and "pagan" is and how it relates to indigenous thinkers?  I think that is not a responsible statement.  You need to study a bit more about indigenous thinkers and the indigenous world view.  

    It is insulting on your part to bring the occult (palm readers and theories about reincarnation) neither having anything doing with indigenous spirituality.  Are not dreams a gift from God?  Did not Mary have a dream herself when she was to bear the Christ Child?  Think about it my friend and don't take such a narrow view of reality,

    Trickster
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    From what (admittedly little) I've read, the "indigenous thinkers" appeared to be polytheistic and not Catholic, heretic, nor schismatic.  Please enlighten me if I'm wrong.

    The reincarnation part was because IF mentioned something to the effect of being inside an apostle and/or seeing through the eyes of an apostle.  The palm reading thing--I just threw that in as, in essence, an equitable alternative of what I perceive all you & IF said.

    Maybe I'll be invited to the next Assissi where I may become more knowledgeable of all of the above.  Looks like moslems & pentecostals are on track to be co-guests of honor at the next event though.


    --Snarky Turd

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    « Reply #12 on: July 31, 2014, 03:52:59 PM »
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    Did not Mary have a dream herself when she was to bear the Christ Child?





    No dream. Supernatural reality. She was actually visited by the Archangel Gabriel, Fortitudo Dei-the power of God.  

    I sincerely doubt that IF has been visited by the Archangel Gabriel.

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    « Reply #13 on: July 31, 2014, 03:57:01 PM »
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    I later thought about this, after the dream, and thought that maybe it was because God is above all of His creation, and His creation can never be as great as He is. If it were as great as Him then He would be creating Himself (which is not possible because He is infinite). Hence, Christ would show signs of being a man like me and you because Christ was God's creation. Nevertheless, He had no individual soul, and was God at the same time.


    Bolded sections are false (heretical).  Christ was not God's creation; Christ is God.  Our Lord's HUMAN NATURE was created by God but Christ Himself was not created.  Our Lord has an individual human soul just like everyone else; He simply had a one divine PERSON (which is not the same as having one soul).

    There was never a time that something "didn't come to" Jesus "right away".  He is God.


    Christ, as a man, was God's creation.

    He did not have an individual soul like every other human being. The only soul He had was God. In ancient judaism, they believed that human beings have 2 souls. They have individual souls, and they have the soul of God present within them. As a matter of fact, everything has the soul of God present within it because God is infinite and present in all places. Christ only had the soul of God.


    Judaism teaches that there are five levels to a human soul, and only the bottom three apply to non-Jєωs but that's another topic.

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    « Reply #14 on: July 31, 2014, 04:34:48 PM »
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    Did not Mary have a dream herself when she was to bear the Christ Child?  


    No, it was good St Joseph who had the dreams, as well as the magi:

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    Matthew 1 [20] But while he thought on these things, behold the angel of the Lord appeared to him in his sleep, saying: Joseph, son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife, for that which is conceived in her, is of the Holy Ghost.



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    Matthew 2 [12] And having received an answer in sleep that they should not return to Herod, they went back another way into their country. [13] And after they were departed, behold an angel of the Lord appeared in sleep to Joseph, saying: Arise, and take the child and his mother, and fly into Egypt:


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    Matthew 2 [19] But when Herod was dead, behold an angel of the Lord appeared in sleep to Joseph in Egypt, [20] Saying: Arise, and take the child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel. For they are dead that sought the life of the child.


    Bruce, I wouldn't give OHCA a second thought. I think he's a troll.
    :pop:

    You're right to say not to give too much importance to a single dream (in the case of IF).
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