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Traditional Catholic Faith => General Discussion => Topic started by: Petertherock on June 11, 2015, 01:12:27 PM
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Yeah, this is that girl that was in legal trouble that everyone warned me not to get in a relationship with...you were all right about her. Not only did she never become Catholic, she used me too...there's being young and naiive...well I am old and naiive.
I should have seen this a long time ago but you live and learn I guess. She was always telling me she needed money for court stuff, for her car repairs, and for food and gas. This was fine and believable before she started working. But after she started working she still always needed money because she had to use her whole check to pay fines and court costs or some other excuse that sounded believable at the time like car repairs or something. I even road with her in her car and I don't doubt her car needed repairs but something wasn't right.
The last thing she did was have me take out a loan for her car repairs and to supposedly pay off the rest of her contract for court. She was also going to use the loan to pay me back some of the money she owed me. She said she would sign paperwork to have the money to pay the loan taken out of her pay check. I kind of figured she would never pay it back but I used it to test her.
Well, then she kept saying she kept getting sent to jail for stupid things like not having a sticker on her license plate or she got sent to jail for not wearing her seatbelt or for being pulled off on the side of the road talking to her friend and for her brake light not working. She said it was because she was on conditions that they could lock her up for stupid things like that.
The final straw came the other night when her "father" told me that she was in jail and needed $1500 to get out. He said they had all but $400 of it. I gave her half that night and he told me she would be released yesterday...oh...and her "dad" told me if she didn't get out by last night she would lose her job. So yesterday her "dad" asks me for more money and this time I said no. I told him I didn't have any more...which was the truth...at least not to give her. Before this happened, I noticed she had blocked me on facebook and she gave the excuse that she couldn't get into her facebook either. My mom looked on her account and she hadn't blocked my mom but just unfriended her so I knew her account was still there and she was just blocking me. Her "dad" messaged me last night and said if I can't get her the money by this morning she would be going to prison for her 5 year sentence.
I am sorry, but I'm not falling for her crap anymore. I already know I am stuck with the loan which is why before I even got the loan I made sure I had enough to take care of it. I am not even really mad about the money. Even though she kept promising to pay me back I never really expected her to. I am more upset that she pretended to love me and tell me how important I was to her. I should have cut the money off a long time ago but like I told my mom last night, you live and learn. That's what I get for getting involved in a girl that has a record.
Oh, one of the other things that made me realize what was going on is I asked her "dad" what jail she was at so I could go visit her and he always didn't know or said they were moving her or some excuse. Oh, and her "dad" hadn't talked to her since she went to jail but he knew she didn't want him asking me for money but he had no where else to go. So, it's obvious her "dad" was her posing as her dad. The other red flag was when I sent her the last money of course I sent it in her name and supposedly she was going to get the money when she got out of jail but her "dad" said she had her cousin get the money and they didn't ID her to pick up the money. I know that's BS because back when she lost her ID last year I had to send the money to her friend because she couldn't get the money without an ID.
I would almost be relieved if I found out her story was true and she is in prison and that really was her dad and her story was real but I know that's not going to happen. I at least know she wasn't using the money for drugs because I do know for a fact she was getting drug tested every week and always passed but if this is the kind of person she is, I don't want or need her in my life. I just wished I figured all this out back when everyone was telling me not to get involved with her. Even my mom knew she was bad news but I guess I was blinded by love. I also wrote to her lawyer to ask if she was indeed in jail like she told me so if she's lying maybe her lawyer will call her up and tell her to wise up but I doubt she would listen anyway.
I will be OK...I'm just heart broken right now. I think having a dog is better than a girlfriend. All I have to do is feed him and let him out to poop and pee and he loves me unconditionally. He's always there waiting for me at the door when I come home excited to see me. Anyway...I just had to get this off my chest.
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Dear Petertherock,
I am writing to you on behalf of my cousin, Lackawanna Mbusi, who was until recently the valet de chambre of the now deposed emperor of Nigeria. Mr. Mbusi was a good and faithful servant to the emperor, and he cried like a baby when the members of the new People’s Revolutionary Government of Nigeria chopped the emperor up into several dozen pieces and simmered him in a stewpot over a low flame for seventy-two hours. (I have heard that a bit more salt and a few sprigs of fennel would have improved the stew’s taste.)
As it happens, my cousin is a frugal man, and in the years he served the emperor, he managed to save a bit for his retirement. After an unsuccessful revolution in the late nineties, Lackawanna thought it advisable to use a pseudonym at his bank. What a wise decision! Though all of his private assets were seized or destroyed by the new government (even his precious models of all the Star Trek ships with signed certificates of authenticity from Gene Roddenberry), his savings remain intact, thank heaven, albeit inaccessible at the moment. Lackawanna managed to escape from Nigeria (he’s now living in a small, secluded hotel in Cap d’Antibes), but his modest savings remain at the Amalgamated People’s Bank of Lagos.
This is where you can be of enormous assistance to us, Mr. Petertherock—and incidentally to yourself, too. A dear friend has told me of your spiritual and material generosity and your unimpeachable integrity, and that is why I am turning to you now. My cousin and I have been looking for such a man as you to help him out by arranging for a wire transfer of his savings—which amount to 48.9 million US dollars—to an American bank. Lackawanna has told me that he would consider it an honor to transfer $12 million of that amount to you as a small token of his appreciation for your help if that bank were to be yours.
I know that you must be a very busy man, dear friend; a man with many calls upon his time and purse. So perhaps I could help both you and my cousin by handling the transfer for you. All you need do is e-mail me your bank account number, your bank’s ASA number, and your own social security number, and I shall handle all the paperwork that the transfer arrangements will require. I can assure you that within three business days of the arrangement of the wire transfer, the division of the funds can be accomplished. Lackawanna has also told me that he would hate to see you burdened with paying taxes on the part of the $48.9 million going back to him, and so he wants to offer you an additional $1.5 million to cover those taxes and fees. Indeed, my cousin's inherent goodness and generosity rival your own, Mr. Petertherock!
Do reply to this letter as soon as you can, my dear friend. I eagerly look forward to hearing from you.
Very truly yours,
Nunavut Kalevala Johnson
83 Heroic People’s Drive
Abandabu, Nigeria
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I am not that naiive lol!
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You're not the first innocent and naive Trad man to be deceived by a compulsive liar of a woman.
It almost seems like the smarter the guy is, the better he is at being deceived when a woman is involved. His high intellect (including imagination) helps justify the "gaps" and inconsistencies in the story so that it's more believable.
I know a mechanical engineer who fell for a story similar to this. I know an architect about my age who fell for a compulsive liar like this. I know another man, a Millennial, who fell/is falling for all sorts of BS stories from a co-worker of his. I don't know how that one turned out.
Sometimes it's loneliness, sometimes it's desperation, sometimes it's infatuation.
But in general, Trads are more vulnerable because "to the pure, all things are pure". Which means: it's hard to imagine someone would bald-faced lie to you, when you're not a liar yourself. When you're innocent, many more crimes are "unthinkable". When you're a decent guy, it's hard to imagine someone being so foul.
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Adam got suckered by Eve.
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Thanks everyone...I don't consider myself any kind of intellectual, but I know what you are trying to say. The latest is her supposed father said she got into a fight in jail and both of them are in the infirmary. I also talked to her best friend and she didn't know what was going on as she has stopped talking to her a week or so ago. She told me if the story is true then she needs to learn a tough lesson. Like she said, she won't learn any lesson if people keep bailling her out. I guess the good news is if it's true she is in jail then at least I wasn't being lied to and it still could be possible that she loves me. But on the other hand, I can't and won't send her any money. She's an adult and needs to learn to take care of her own issues.
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What Matthew said. I've seen it with male friends and it's like seeing evil in real time. Both friends were brilliant and of high character. These people play on your conscience and keep you feeling obligated and guilty.
Peter, I'm sorry you have been through this. Hope is powerful.
It's no consolation now but it's good you saw the light and are away from her now. Many man never do and they lose their minds or practically become someone brainwashed by these women. She is going to come back to you in some way, I strongly suggest you do not have any contact with her at all.
HUGS TO YOU
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The minute you get strange calls talking about jail, that's when you realize that the person you were associated was a mistake and you have jeopardized your reputation by having any previous contact.
You have to build people skills somehow. Learn how to tell who the dishonest, unreliable are.
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Claudel,
Is that goood deal reserved solely for PetertheRock?
:surprised:
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Claudel,
Is that goood deal reserved solely for PetertheRock?
Of course not! I'm always at the service of old friends. Just send me your bank and SS numbers, and I'll forward them to Mr. Johnson in Nigeria.
As for Rocky Pete, I think he's way too busy trying to decide whether to invest more time, energy, and cash in Miss Jailbird to help Mr. Mbusi escape his misfortunes.
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I don't know your story Petertherock but it seems clear to me that you have "white knight syndrome." Trad men are prone to this syndrome. I have seen it time and time again and it never turns out well. You need to get a handle on this quickly or else you will continue to be "brokenhearted" and taken for a ride.
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I agree with a previous post, she WILL try to get back in your life. RUN! She is bad news and always will be. People like that do NOT change.
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If she contacts you and you want to contact her, please post or pm one of us, we are here for you, just don't respond back to her (or any of her messengers) even if you really want to. It's not going to be different, better, or like you first thought it would be.
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Adam got suckered by Eve.
Yes, women have been getting us into trouble from the get-go.
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I will pray for you.
:pray: :pray: :pray:
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I would suggest that you pay a visit to your local police station to explain the situation. These people who have used and abused you are unscrupulous criminals, and they should be prevented from hurting other good souls.
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I don't know your story Petertherock but it seems clear to me that you have "white knight syndrome." Trad men are prone to this syndrome. I have seen it time and time again and it never turns out well. You need to get a handle on this quickly or else you will continue to be "brokenhearted" and taken for a ride.
Not only trad men, but trad women, too. I had a friend, a woman, who got herself into a boatload of trouble trying to help a loser guy. He lied like a rug. She was coming from honesty, charity and kindness, and he was coming from exploitation. It was truly ugly.
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I was a late bloomer I guess. It took me nearly till my 30's to figure out that just because it wouldn't cross my mind to do a harmful or deceitful thing to someone didn't mean that they wouldn't think of doing such a thing to me... and even act on that thought. I think many trads are more naive about people this way. It often takes a rude awaking for those tender hearts to to realize that a friendly smile can still hide a serpent's fangs. I'm sorry this happened to you, OP. I hope you find a good Catholic lady soon. 1MT
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Well, I talked to her today. She was very upset at me for thinking she was lying without giving her a chance to explain things to me. She still says she will pay for the loan which I will believe when I see it. She told me her ex is threatening her from prison and that's why she blocked me from facebook to protect me. She said she owes some really bad people a lot of money and if she doesn't find a way to pay them she won't be around any more. Obviously I am not going to give her any more money. If she is telling the truth I am really sorry for her, and I did apologize to her for jumping to comclusions in case she is telling the truth. If she is being honest I feel really bad for her but it's her own choices that got her into this situation so it's up to her to get herself out of this.
The only thing I can do for her now is be there if she wants someone to talk to and pray for her.
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Peter! Why did you engage in conversation with her at all? You apologised to her!
You are not resolute at all about this person who has taken you for a ride and fleeced you. If you keep this up (and be honest - you are the one who is keeping this up -"I can ... be there if she wants someone to talk to") she will do you in, like a lamb to the slaughter.
Yes, pray for her, but you are obviously not the one to help her by hearing her sob stories.
Like 1MT, I hope you will find a sweet innocent trad girl. This is more likely when you finally banish her from your life.
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You are right. There is no use keeping in contact with her. If she's mad at me then so be it. She really hasn't done anything to reach out to me to talk or anything other than to whine about needing money. I know she is just trying to wear me down by making me feel bad for her so I give in and send her money again. As hard as it is, I have to let her go for good. Besides, if these are the kinds of people she is hanging out with and borrowing money from then I don't want anything to do with her.
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Peter,
I say this for the good of your soul but cut all ties with this woman once and for all. You are letting your emotions get the better of you. It almost seems as if you are rationalizing staying with this woman. I know you know better. Seriously have nothing to do with this woman.
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I hope you will find a sweet innocent trad girl. This is more likely when you finally banish her from your life.
While finding a sweet innocent trad girl is not a certainty by a long shot, it is an impossibility as long as this other girl has any contact with you at all.
You should block her from accessing any of your social media. Better yet, block anyone from your social media unless you give them specific permission to view your stuff (I read that you can do that). Best thing: Get off Facebook, Twitter, and all those other social media outlets that are nothing but depositories for identity thieves altogether. Then, change your phone number if you can and don't leave a forwarding number. Have no contact with this woman at all--even if she truly repents and reforms her life. Even if she really were to repent and reform her life, she will never truly be able to see you as anything but a patsy. Sorry to have to tell you that, but it is a fact.
I know I don't really understand Facebook, but I truly don't understand how blocking you from her page "protects" you from her ex-boyfriend. For you Facebook aficionados, does that make sense?
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What in the world could you possibly have in common with this woman? Why would you even find someone like this attractive? Jail? Prison? Are you kidding me? What is wrong with you Peter? Dating is a means to marriage. This woman is not marriage material therefore what is the point in dating her? What are thinking? Dump her ass and then go examine yourself and find out why you desire to be a whipping boy, playing the co-dependent/white knight.
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Mom always knows best...before any of this started she said she had reservations about this girl. Mom told me that my Faith is important to me and she doesn't share the same values that I do. At first I didn't know what she meant...or maybe I did but I didn't want to see it. They don't call it blinded by love for nothing.
She was doing good on her conditions and staying clean and sober and as far as I know she still is. But even that she was violating her conditions for stupid things. One time she was caught driving without a tail light. Another time she was caught for not having her seat belt on. That's if she really did get caught for all these things or was just using them as an excuse to ask for money.
Anyway, I just planted my garden today so I have something to keep my mind off her now. I want to thank everyone for their advice and help.
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As a general rule, men should have nothing to do with American women, including "trad Catholics", who were raised in urban and / or suburban areas. Men should avoid at least 50% of "trad Catholic", and all other non-Catholic (including novus ordoite), women from rural areas. Pray for discernment, and use prudence. Take upon yourself the spiritual direction of The Ladder of Divine Ascent HERE (http://www.prudencetrue.com/images/TheLadderofDivineAscent.pdf ). The Lord will bless you with a fine, holy, Catholic woman if it's in His plan for you.
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What in the world could you possibly have in common with this woman? Why would you even find someone like this attractive? Jail? Prison? Are you kidding me? What is wrong with you Peter? Dating is a means to marriage. This woman is not marriage material therefore what is the point in dating her? What are thinking? Dump her ass and then go examine yourself and find out why you desire to be a whipping boy, playing the co-dependent/white knight.
You are asking emotions (love, infatuation, optimism, desperation, loneliness, pity) to be rational. Not gonna happen.
As I mentioned earlier, PeterTheRock is hardly alone in his experience. Perhaps some of the particulars are different in each case, but in my experience this is a song that has been sung MANY different times in many different places. It's human nature.
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What in the world could you possibly have in common with this woman? Why would you even find someone like this attractive? Jail? Prison? Are you kidding me? What is wrong with you Peter? Dating is a means to marriage. This woman is not marriage material therefore what is the point in dating her? What are thinking? Dump her ass and then go examine yourself and find out why you desire to be a whipping boy, playing the co-dependent/white knight.
You are asking emotions (love, infatuation, optimism, desperation, loneliness, pity) to be rational. Not gonna happen.
As I mentioned earlier, PeterTheRock is hardly alone in his experience. Perhaps some of the particulars are different in each case, but in my experience this is a song that has been sung MANY different times in many different places. It's human nature.
If that is the case then obviously Petertherock is not ready for ANY relationship with a woman because he lets his emotions dictate his reason. I'm being sincere when I say that he needs to "examine himself."
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Well, I talked to her today. She was very upset at me for thinking she was lying without giving her a chance to explain things to me. She still says she will pay for the loan which I will believe when I see it. She told me her ex is threatening her from prison and that's why she blocked me from facebook to protect me. She said she owes some really bad people a lot of money and if she doesn't find a way to pay them she won't be around any more. Obviously I am not going to give her any more money. If she is telling the truth I am really sorry for her, and I did apologize to her for jumping to comclusions in case she is telling the truth. If she is being honest I feel really bad for her but it's her own choices that got her into this situation so it's up to her to get herself out of this.
The only thing I can do for her now is be there if she wants someone to talk to and pray for her.
It's all manipulative garbage coming from her mouth, you need to have NO COMMUNICATION with this woman, not for her sake, but for yours.
I met this guy and wow he is really nice, except he used to be an addict, and I gave him a lot of money, he keeps getting arrested for loitering, and then another time he forgot to put the new plate stickers on his truck, so now he needs more, you know the criminal justice system is a racket, his xgf called me and said they got into a fight in jail and they need $1500, he is involved in the mob and he's going to get killed if I don't give him $600 more next Friday when I get paid, I told him I'm so sorry for doubting him!! I better save him! Oh I don't want those bad people to hurt him.
PETERTHEROCK seriously what would you tell me?
IT is really HARD - HAVE no communication with this woman to see things clear again.. she is playing you like a fiddle, your instinct to protect her, guilty you for "doubting" her! As long as you are talking to her, she is playing with your mind, you will NOT see it. Cut things off for your - save your mind before you become brainwashed by her. Soon she will be talking bad about your mom and anyone else who is warning you.
We are here for you!
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What in the world could you possibly have in common with this woman? Why would you even find someone like this attractive? Jail? Prison? Are you kidding me? What is wrong with you Peter? Dating is a means to marriage. This woman is not marriage material therefore what is the point in dating her? What are thinking? Dump her ass and then go examine yourself and find out why you desire to be a whipping boy, playing the co-dependent/white knight.
You are asking emotions (love, infatuation, optimism, desperation, loneliness, pity) to be rational. Not gonna happen.
As I mentioned earlier, PeterTheRock is hardly alone in his experience. Perhaps some of the particulars are different in each case, but in my experience this is a song that has been sung MANY different times in many different places. It's human nature.
Matthew people have different lines of what they will tolerate even in love.
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Good job with the garden! :applause:
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As a general rule, men should have nothing to do with American women, including "trad Catholics", who were raised in urban and / or suburban areas. Men should avoid at least 50% of "trad Catholic", and all other non-Catholic (including novus ordoite), women from rural areas. Pray for discernment, and use prudence. Take upon yourself the spiritual direction of The Ladder of Divine Ascent HERE (http://www.prudencetrue.com/images/TheLadderofDivineAscent.pdf ). The Lord will bless you with a fine, holy, Catholic woman if it's in His plan for you.
You cannot judge someone from where they were raised, but yeah things look pretty bleak.
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Sometimes I feel like living as a monk in my house and forgetting about women. It's worked for some Saints.
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If you can't forget about her, how can you forget women in general? No need to cut yourself off from society just because you got done like a dinner!
Pray to Archangel Raphael for a good and holy woman as a spouse. May God's Will be done. I will pray too!
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You have been duped but are still fortunate. At least she hasn't falsely accused you. Associating with people like that can ruin your life.
I know someone who was played like this by his girlfriend. He was lucky to only have a year probation and thousands in legal fees. He was facing 5 years if convicted, he plead guilty to a lesser crime. She accused him of assault and theft. It ruined 3 yrs of his life. Later he found out that she has done this before.
If your girlfriend is a manipulative liar and you cease to be useful she could be a big threat.