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Mormon Women Set Out to Take a Stand, in Pants
« on: December 20, 2012, 09:27:07 PM »
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  • http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/20/us/19mormon.html

    New York Times
    Mormon Women Set Out to Take a Stand, in Pants
    By TIMOTHY PRATT
    December 20, 2012

    LAS VEGAS — A call for Mormon women to wear pants to church, begun
    this month by a small group of women, has stretched across the globe,
    but not before creating a backlash and even generating death threats.

    “Wear Pants to Church,” an event on Sunday, was meant to draw
    attention to the role of women in the Church of Jesus Christ of
    Latter-day Saints, using attire as a symbolic first salvo in a larger
    struggle over gender inequalities.

    Though the Mormon Church has no official policy against women wearing
    pants to church, many say they feel peer pressure to wear a dress,
    particularly in the western United States, organizers said. So on
    Sunday, thousands of Mormon women arrived at church in pants in places
    like Cambridge, England; Heidelberg, Germany; Austin, Tex.; the
    Marshall Islands; and Kotzebue, Alaska. A number of the women posted
    their photos on Facebook and other Web sites. Others said they could
    not participate because they were fearful of ridicule or reprimand.

    A Google map, begun so women could show they participated, included
    posts like this one, from Kari White, in Sheboygan, Wis.: “felt free
    to be an authentic me for the first time in my nearly 5 years of
    membership in the church.”

    Joanna Brooks, a professor at San Diego State University and the
    author of “The Book of Mormon Girl: A Memoir of an American Faith,”
    called it “the largest concerted Mormon feminist effort in history.”

    A church spokesman, Eric Hawkins, declined to comment on the event.

    Organizers hope the dialogue will now expand to include issues like
    the ordination of women, or women taking on more responsibilities at
    church events.

    They also cited the pronounced role of the Boy Scouts in the church —
    boys routinely become troop leaders in the organization, but girls
    have no similar outlet with the Girl Scouts — and the fact that young
    men are expected to go on two-year missions to spread the faith, but
    young women are not. The result: the vast majority of Mormon
    missionaries are men.

    “Wear Pants to Church” was the idea of Stephanie Lauritzen of Salt
    Lake City. She and some fellow Mormon women who belonged to a group
    called All Enlisted posted an events page on Facebook on Dec. 9.
    Within days, thousands had pledged their support, but one person
    threatened to shoot women who showed up in pants. Ms. Lauritzen, 26,
    also received threats on her own Facebook page that are being
    investigated by Facebook and the local authorities, she said.

    On Dec. 11, the Salt Lake City-based church leadership issued a
    statement: “Generally church members are encouraged to wear their best
    clothing as a sign of respect for the Savior, but we don’t counsel
    people beyond that.”

    The All Enlisted “friends” page has drawn hundreds of posts, both for
    and against the idea. JoEllen Swarts of Las Vegas wrote: “What is
    wrong with all you women??? If you’re not happy with the LDS church,
    move on, find another place of worship. You will not change Mormon
    doctrine.”

    At a suburban church in Green Valley, Nev., less than 10 miles from
    the Las Vegas Strip, women filed into church on Sunday morning, most
    wearing dresses (most men wore coats and ties). Bishop Michael Durham
    was somewhat dismissive of the pants idea. “I think wearing pants is
    not liberating,” he said. “Liberation comes from inside. I’m not sure
    they have a clear understanding of the church’s position on gender.”

    Soraya Cordeiro said she wore pants because she had to take a long bus
    ride to her job at the Venetian hotel after church and found wearing a
    dress to be “a hassle.” She said she had never faced rebuke for her
    choice of attire.

    On Monday, a private All Enlisted Facebook page had collected about
    the same number of “negative experiences” as “positive experiences”
    from women across the country. Julie Tuovi Baker Hansen, a lawyer in
    Burbank, Calif., who participated while visiting a Salt Lake City
    suburb, said she was surprised to see a man raise his hand and say,
    “Women who want to wear pants, they just don’t know how to follow the
    Lord.”

    Ms. Hansen, the only woman wearing pants in a room of about 50 people,
    said she felt “pretty irritated.”

    Aimee Hickman, the editor of a Mormon feminist magazine called
    Exponent II, said she originally had reservations about the event. But
    then she saw the negative reaction by church members online. “This
    made me rethink my original position,” Ms. Hickman said. The attention
    drawn to the effort, she added, “has people talking about Mormon
    gender roles more than anything I’ve seen.”

    Offline Alex117

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    Mormon Women Set Out to Take a Stand, in Pants
    « Reply #1 on: December 20, 2012, 09:31:15 PM »
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  • This is kind of funny.


    Offline Telesphorus

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    « Reply #2 on: December 20, 2012, 09:49:41 PM »
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  • The supporters of pants on women in church are consciously siding with feminism, and they know it.

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    « Reply #3 on: December 20, 2012, 10:50:30 PM »
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  • They just shouldn't be putting women to work.  If it weren't for that, all this nonsense about women wanting to do what men do, wouldn't matter.  It's like mass "Tom-Boy-Ism," with a "Metro-Sexual" counterpart.  Although, the latter used to be called, "a sissy."  

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    « Reply #4 on: December 21, 2012, 04:03:12 AM »
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  • Quote from: Renzo
    They just shouldn't be putting women to work.  If it weren't for that, all this nonsense about women wanting to do what men do, wouldn't matter.  It's like mass "Tom-Boy-Ism," with a "Metro-Sexual" counterpart.  Although, the latter used to be called, "a sissy."  

    They still are from where I come from.

    Although we don't use such a nice word as  "sissy".


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    « Reply #5 on: December 21, 2012, 07:44:27 AM »
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  • Shouldn't these mormon women spend their time searching for Christ, and by doing this, finding their way to the Traditional Catholic Faith?

    Merely wearing pants is no real form of achievement.

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    « Reply #6 on: December 21, 2012, 10:27:50 AM »
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  • I remember my 8th grade Social Studies class. When we started learning about World War II, we barely heard about the battles or other important moments of the war. Instead, we spent a week, an entire week, learning about the importance of women wearing pants for the first time.  Our teacher, coincidentally, was a Mormon woman.

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    « Reply #7 on: December 21, 2012, 12:14:54 PM »
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  • It is funny.  We go to sspx chapel for Mass and everyone young old, rich poor are dressed nice for Mass and we women are wearing our mantillas or head coverings.  Then down the street is the Novus ordo and they are coming out of the Church wearing sweat pants, and atheletic gear as if they are coming out of a gym.  And yet these same people would dress up for weddings, etc.

    We went to shoe store.  I'm getting rid of my old modern high heels and replacing with conservative shoes.  While we were there, there was a man talking about buying high heel shoes for a nine and 5 year old.  We went to a "holiday" show that my niece was in and these children were dressed horribly.  Many little girls were dressed as if they were in their twenties and were dressed in black.  And so many sleeveless black dresses. It is upsetting.  

    These dance studios have the children little girls half naked dancing to modern ugly depressing dance.  Then the beauty pageants all exploit children too and have them dressed way and act older beyond their years.

    The Amish is rebelling and now the mormons.  What next.  

    the Jewish girls going to Synagogue in our area have certain guidelines and have to wear dresses.  They even have speciality clothes.  
    Same with the muslims.  We saw a special clothing store in philadelphia area.

    It funny that the local novus ordo says they should embrace ecumenicism  learn from them.   They would learn that most religions stick to their faith and traditions while the novus ordo does away with theirs.

     
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    « Reply #8 on: December 21, 2012, 03:52:34 PM »
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  • O.k., but nobody bothered to ask if they should!  
    We are true israel and israel is in bondage.  

     

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