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Offline Sigismund

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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2014, 07:32:07 PM »
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    As someone who has no desire to marry or have children (I never have wanted children because I'm not cut out for motherhood), I have to disagree with this. My dog is part of my family, and I'm not about to treat her like some stupid animal who befriends anyone who pays attention to her.


    Tradforlife,

    I was being a bit tongue in cheek in my comment above yours.

    I tend to think of my pets as part of the family.  (Including my late wife's cat who for most of its life hated me and whom I regarded as like the part of the family that includes relatives who come for a visit and then refuse to leave, and frequently vomit on the carpet right beside my bed.)  I have a cat now, with whom I get along famously, and two dogs.  ( I am grieving the death of a third.  I was also in the end saddened by the death of the above mentioned cat, with whom I eventually reached an understanding.)  So I think animals are great.  They are not children, however.  They are not like children, the same as children, or replacements for children.  They are pets.  That is all they are, but that is plenty in itself.  They don't need to be turned into something they are not.  
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    « Reply #16 on: April 14, 2014, 08:25:47 PM »
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    As someone who has no desire to marry or have children (I never have wanted children because I'm not cut out for motherhood), I have to disagree with this. My dog is part of my family, and I'm not about to treat her like some stupid animal who befriends anyone who pays attention to her.


    With that kind of ideal and attitude I think we both agree that you are definitely not cut out for the hard road of motherhood.


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    « Reply #17 on: April 14, 2014, 08:26:26 PM »
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  • The article should be titled they are choosing college and work instead of marriage or the convent. Unmarried woman should not be choosing motherhood.
    Rejecting feminism is more than being against birth control and women with preschool age children working.

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    « Reply #18 on: April 14, 2014, 08:29:46 PM »
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    The article should be titled they are choosing college and work instead of marriage or the convent. Unmarried woman should not be choosing motherhood.
    Rejecting feminism is more than being against birth control and women with preschool age children working.


    You are right that promuscuity should not be praised but I don't think it should be seen as the greatest of evils either, especially with Hollywood and the popular culture praising it. When that happens why should we be suprised that teenagers have sex? Also one should see the birth of a child as a good thing no matter the circuмstance.

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    « Reply #19 on: April 14, 2014, 08:36:36 PM »
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    The article should be titled they are choosing college and work instead of marriage or the convent. Unmarried woman should not be choosing motherhood.
    Rejecting feminism is more than being against birth control and women with preschool age children working.


    You are right that promuscuity should not be praised but I don't think it should be seen as the greatest of evils either, especially with Hollywood and the popular culture praising it. When that happens why should we be suprised that teenagers have sex? Also one should see the birth of a child as a good thing no matter the circuмstance.


    TG fornication is a mortal sin.
    All children are blessings, it's not something that depends on the circuмstance of their birth.
    I agree chastity is not valued in our culture for the most part and young people lack example and adults to guide and protect them.


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    « Reply #20 on: April 14, 2014, 08:40:42 PM »
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    I tend to think of my pets as part of the family.


    I'd like to point out of course that I have a soft spot for animals myself. I own a cat and I am very close with my grandparents' Doberman Pinscher but it is when animals are put above the national family is when I have a problem.

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    « Reply #21 on: April 14, 2014, 08:42:49 PM »
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    As someone who has no desire to marry or have children (I never have wanted children because I'm not cut out for motherhood), I have to disagree with this. My dog is part of my family, and I'm not about to treat her like some stupid animal who befriends anyone who pays attention to her.


    Being a woman you are made to be a mother, it may be biological children or it may be spiritual children. Please don't discount your abilities or believe the world's values on what a mother should be.



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    « Reply #22 on: April 14, 2014, 08:43:41 PM »
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    TG fornication is a mortal sin.
    All children are blessings, it's not something that depends on the circuмstance of their birth.
    I agree chastity is not valued in our culture for the most part and young people lack example and adults to guide and protect them.


    I realise that thank you but there are some who think illegitimate children should be aborted or that the mother should be seen as a walking disease for the rest of her days. I'd rather the woman have sex outside of marriage and decide to keep the child and be a mother than have a woman in marriage using birth control and abortion.


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    « Reply #23 on: April 14, 2014, 08:51:57 PM »
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    As someone who has no desire to marry or have children (I never have wanted children because I'm not cut out for motherhood), I have to disagree with this. My dog is part of my family, and I'm not about to treat her like some stupid animal who befriends anyone who pays attention to her.


    Being a woman you are made to be a mother, it may be biological children or it may be spiritual children. Please don't discount your abilities or believe the world's values on what a mother should be.




     :applause:

    God gives parents, especially through the sacrament of marriage, so many graces, if they are willing to co-operate with Him. His providence gives a woman everything she needs to overcome faults and weaknesses to be a good mother. And of course, we have the intercession and example of Our Lady.

    We should simply desire to be what He wants us to be, instead of focusing on what pleases ourselves most.  :baby:

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    « Reply #24 on: April 14, 2014, 09:58:09 PM »
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    As someone who has no desire to marry or have children (I never have wanted children because I'm not cut out for motherhood), I have to disagree with this. My dog is part of my family, and I'm not about to treat her like some stupid animal who befriends anyone who pays attention to her.


    Being a woman you are made to be a mother, it may be biological children or it may be spiritual children. Please don't discount your abilities or believe the world's values on what a mother should be.




     :applause:

    God gives parents, especially through the sacrament of marriage, so many graces, if they are willing to co-operate with Him. His providence gives a woman everything she needs to overcome faults and weaknesses to be a good mother. And of course, we have the intercession and example of Our Lady.

    We should simply desire to be what He wants us to be, instead of focusing on what pleases ourselves most.  :baby:


    Excellent posts, ladies.  


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    « Reply #25 on: April 14, 2014, 10:05:59 PM »
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    It seems to me that this trend (the OP) is an outgrowth of decay in civilization.  We live in a time when many people living in large cities are too removed from what it means to have meat for food (someone has to butcher the animals) or skins to wear (someone has to skin the animals) and other by-products of animals.  

    That's why they have all that time to settle into thinking that raising animals for the products they yield is somehow an evil thing.  

    And women who have bought into this liberalism are acting in accord with the philosophy and thinking that would have us approve of abortion, euthanasia, sex change operations and Sodomite 'marriage'.  They might not exactly agree with those moral crimes but they will eventually because that's what Liberalism does to you:  eventually you accept the whole package if you can't resist its first tenets.


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    « Reply #26 on: April 15, 2014, 04:47:34 AM »
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  • Funny how in the Arabic/Moslem world dogs are one of the most filthy, vile creatures, even being called a dog is one of the worst insults someone from the Levant can call another.

    Meanwhile we elevate and worship these four-footed beasts above our own children, no wonder why we're slated for extinction soon enough.

    This place is going to the dogs.

    And I don't mean just the furry kind.

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    « Reply #27 on: April 15, 2014, 05:19:27 AM »
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    The devil doesn't need wacky liberalism to take Moslems to hell -- they deny the Blessed Trinity and the divinity of Our Lord, so the devil has all he needs with them.  It's the Christians whom the devil needs to use Liberalism against like a weapon.  So the damned devil is just doing what he has to do:  use Liberalism against the Christians.  It has the added benefit of making western culture appear to the Moslems as The Great Satan.  That works for satan, too.


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    « Reply #28 on: April 15, 2014, 10:34:33 AM »
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    Meanwhile we elevate and worship these four-footed beasts above our own children [our own God], no wonder why we're slated for extinction [worthy of death] soon enough.



    Romans i. 20-25; 32:  

    "For the invisible things of him, form the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made ;  his eternal power also, and divinity :  so that they are inexcusable.  Because that, when they knew God, they have not glorified him as God, or given thanks :  but became vain in their thoughts, and their foolish heart was darkened.  
          For professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.  And they changed the glory of the incorruptible God into the likeness of the image of a corruptible man, and of birds, and of
    fourfooted beasts, and of creeping things.  Wherefore God gave them up in the desires of their heart, unto uncleanness, to dishonour their own bodies among themselves.  
         Who changed the truth of God into a lie ;  and
    worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever.  Amen.
         ...Who, having known the justice of God, did not understand that they who do such things, are
    worthy of death ;  and not only they that do them, but they also that consent to them that do them.


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    « Reply #29 on: April 15, 2014, 11:06:52 AM »
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    I'm all in favor of pets, but this is plain silly!  You see plenty of homos with canine and feline "children" around New York.  (I'd rather not see them at all, but better they have animals than adopted babies!)  The same may go for a self-centered "career" single.  


    True - less perversions promulgated and less to answer for on Judgment Day.

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