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More Than One Reality Exists (in Quantum Physics)
« on: March 20, 2019, 10:47:40 AM »
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    More Than One Reality Exists (in Quantum Physics)

    By Mindy Weisberger, Senior Writer | March 20, 2019 07:00am ET

    Can two versions of reality exist at the same time? Physicists say they can — at the quantum level, that is. ...

    Wigner's friend
    This perplexing idea was the brainchild of Alfred Wigner, winner of the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1963. In 1961, Wigner had introduced a thought experiment that became known as "Wigner's friend." It begins with a photon — a particle of light. When an observer in an isolated laboratory measures the photon, they find that the particle's polarization — the axis on which it spins — is either vertical or horizontal.

    However, before the photon is measured, the photon displays both polarizations at once, as dictated by the laws of quantum mechanics; it exists in a "superposition" of two possible states.

    Once the person in the lab measures the photon, the particle assumes a fixed polarization. But for someone outside that closed laboratory who doesn't know the result of the measurements, the unmeasured photon is still in a state of superposition.  ...

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    Re: More Than One Reality Exists (in Quantum Physics)
    « Reply #1 on: March 20, 2019, 12:36:10 PM »
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    • This is the kind of delusion you get when people suffer a woman to teach, especially one of the tribe. Quantum physics does not describe alternate realities, and alternate realities contradicts metaphysics and truth. There is only one reality and the proper term to describe alternate realities is: delusions.
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    Re: More Than One Reality Exists (in Quantum Physics)
    « Reply #2 on: March 20, 2019, 03:37:17 PM »
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    • Gee look at me I just cut off my arm with a chainsaw but that is ok since I have an alternate reality somewhere else.
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    Re: More Than One Reality Exists (in Quantum Physics)
    « Reply #3 on: March 21, 2019, 06:53:08 AM »
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    • The science-fiction I would love a few of them to try is to transfer their body atoms to another place and come out alive there. A 'beam me up Scotty' exercise.

    You see they do not recognise it is the soul that gives life, and once separated life disappears. But they won't believe that until a pile of ashes comes out on the other side.
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    Re: More Than One Reality Exists (in Quantum Physics)
    « Reply #4 on: March 21, 2019, 09:01:51 AM »
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    • “When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.”

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    Re: More Than One Reality Exists (in Quantum Physics)
    « Reply #5 on: March 21, 2019, 01:57:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: cassini on March 21, 2019, 06:53:08 AM
    The science-fiction I would love a few of them to try is to transfer their body atoms to another place and come out alive there. A 'beam me up Scotty' exercise.

    You see they do not recognise it is the soul that gives life, and once separated life disappears. But they won't believe that until a pile of ashes comes out on the other side.
    Somebody tell the "me" that won the lottery over there to send "this me" a check through the transporter instead!
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    Re: More Than One Reality Exists (in Quantum Physics)
    « Reply #6 on: March 21, 2019, 03:17:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant on March 21, 2019, 01:57:10 PM
    Somebody tell the "me" that won the lottery over there to send "this me" a check through the transporter instead!

    I won a quantum lotto but they sent the cheque to the other me. Never got a cent! 
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    Re: More Than One Reality Exists (in Quantum Physics)
    « Reply #7 on: March 21, 2019, 03:24:10 PM »
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    • 98% of Quantum Physics involves speculation due to our inability to actually measures things once you get down to a low enough level.

    Great article here about how Quantum Physics is the attempt to eliminate the law of non-contradiction, the very foundation of all logic.  So, for instance, if you say that A and NOT A cannot be true at the same time, then you can use one to disprove the other.  That's at the core of logic in the simplest terms  QP tries to eliminate that, claiming that A and NOT A can exist (and both be true) at the same time.  QP is the latest attempt of atheistic science to argue that reality can contradict itself.

    http://steve-patterson.com/quantum-physics-abuse-reason/

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    You can not create your own reality just by willing it so. There is absolutely no data which suggests consciousness plays any role in collapsing the wave-function. The most obvious answer is the most accurate: the apparatus used to measure quantum phenomena in the double-slit experiment interferes with the results.

    I’m afraid the scoundrels don’t have an easy way out. If reality is actually not a giant blurry paradox, there’s is indeed reason to fret over self-contradiction and imprecision. Suddenly, the laws of logic start binding you again, and you’re no longer free from the constraints of rational thinking. I sincerely believe, within my lifetime, the ridiculous claims of the CI and quantum mystics will be relegated to the dustbin, and a lot of people will feel quite embarrassed, including professional physicists.

    It's taking phenomenology a step further by claiming that the mind and consciousness can create its own reality.  It's latest step of the classic battle to shake the yoke of God from the shoulders of the non serviam crowd.

    Every Catholic with some interest in science should read this article.
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    Re: More Than One Reality Exists (in Quantum Physics)
    « Reply #8 on: March 21, 2019, 05:15:22 PM »
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    • Much of modern physics is a complete scam. Whenever their models cannot explain something, they just make up some hypothesized particle or type of matter that would, if real, make their equations add up. Sometimes they find these particles, often they don't. And they run with unproven models relying on unproven forms of matter and energy, etc. for decades before they're either disproven or finally proven.

    Quantum physics is an even bigger mess and at this stage is basically all hypotheses stacked on top of each other. 
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    Re: More Than One Reality Exists (in Quantum Physics)
    « Reply #9 on: March 21, 2019, 05:17:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cantarella on March 21, 2019, 09:01:51 AM
    “When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.”

    ― G.K. Chesterton
    This is very true, it's how the Jєωs managed to convince the masses that 5 year old boys can decide to be girls and that that's somehow normal and ok. 
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    Re: More Than One Reality Exists (in Quantum Physics)
    « Reply #10 on: March 21, 2019, 08:17:57 PM »
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    • Quantum Physics is a racket.
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    Re: More Than One Reality Exists (in Quantum Physics)
    « Reply #11 on: March 21, 2019, 09:41:39 PM »
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    • Quote from: cassini on March 21, 2019, 06:53:08 AM
    The science-fiction I would love a few of them to try is to transfer their body atoms to another place and come out alive there. A 'beam me up Scotty' exercise.

    You see they do not recognise it is the soul that gives life, and once separated life disappears. But they won't believe that until a pile of ashes comes out on the other side.
    Of course the transporter screwed up every once in a while...... :D
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    Re: More Than One Reality Exists (in Quantum Physics)
    « Reply #12 on: March 21, 2019, 11:50:05 PM »
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    • Any other 'reality' that would be discovered by quantum physics would still be ruled by God.
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    Re: More Than One Reality Exists (in Quantum Physics)
    « Reply #13 on: March 22, 2019, 10:35:33 AM »
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    • Quote from: Kazimierz on March 21, 2019, 09:41:39 PM
    Of course the transporter screwed up every once in a while...... :D


    Told you, soul does not re-emerge with body, and here is proof!
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    Re: More Than One Reality Exists (in Quantum Physics)
    « Reply #14 on: March 22, 2019, 07:01:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on March 21, 2019, 03:24:10 PM
    98% of Quantum Physics involves speculation due to our inability to actually measures things once you get down to a low enough level.

    Great article here about how Quantum Physics is the attempt to eliminate the law of non-contradiction, the very foundation of all logic.  So, for instance, if you say that A and NOT A cannot be true at the same time, then you can use one to disprove the other.  That's at the core of logic in the simplest terms  QP tries to eliminate that, claiming that A and NOT A can exist (and both be true) at the same time.  QP is the latest attempt of atheistic science to argue that reality can contradict itself.

    http://steve-patterson.com/quantum-physics-abuse-reason/

    It's taking phenomenology a step further by claiming that the mind and consciousness can create its own reality.  It's latest step of the classic battle to shake the yoke of God from the shoulders of the non serviam crowd.

    Every Catholic with some interest in science should read this article.
    Thanks for the article. It was a good read and I recommend it now also. 

    I also read his other article 
    http://steve-patterson.com/infinite-things-do-not-exist/

    A bit off topic but related to the same type of logical error is the usage of the term infinity. It has always bothered me when the teacher would proclaim that "this number line goes on infinitely" or "this decimal repeats infinitely". No it doesn't. It only goes as far as a person makes it. To suggest that something can be infinite is to suggest that it is somehow above what can naturally exist, that is to say it must be supernatural. To assign the quality of infinite to anything is to deify it. The mathematician then creates his own gods. The quantum physicist  has created his gods with these ridiculous infinite realties/universes. And if one considers that the evolutionist's 4 or 5 billion years is a span of time so incompressible  as to be effectively infinite, then the Darwinist has divined the genesis theory, complete with creator, for the above secular humanist religion. Just some thoughts I had.

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