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Offline Raoul76

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Mom suicidal and in psych ward -- URGENT prayer request.
« on: May 25, 2010, 11:58:27 PM »
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  • I haven't said anything about this because my mom was embarrassed and didn't want her personal information splashed all over the Internet, but I can no longer keep it secret.  Not only do I need to keep myself sane by getting some good advice, but my mom needs all the prayers she can get.

    My mom has been on antidepressants since a ѕυιcιdє attempt when she was around 40, when my dad divorced her.  After that she threw herself into her work with renewed energy, juiced up on these pills.  But two years ago -- she is 64 now -- as I was in the process of conversion, the whole house of sand inevitably collapsed.   The pills weren't working, the work environment had become toxic, and I was telling her she had to quit, because part of her job was incompatible with Catholicism.  She had a major breakdown and became almost like a zombie.  

    Recently my mom tried to hang herself and today I had to check her into the psych ward of a hospital yet again, despite that they continue to ply her with drugs, constantly changing her prescription.  That was outweighed by the necessity that she be closely monitored for the next few days.  The next thing to try is Neurotransmitter Restoration Therapy, but my mom is in a deep black hole.  She will say things like "You were right about everything, but it's too late for me" and "The devil has got me."  No matter what you suggest, the answer comes back as negative and despairing.  

    On top of this, I have her psychiatrist pushing shock therapy on me.  My atheist uncle also sees that as an option while I do not.  They find my Catholicism a nuisance, I think.  I won't even drive her to the pharmacy to get the drugs because they are what got her here in the first place and I have taken a slightly more "tough love" approach, while everyone else is using her as a guinea pig, in my opinion.  If they don't have God, they don't have the answers. Simple as that.  My mom needs to completely detox to see clearly, because I believe these drugs are blocking the action of the Holy Ghost, but as soon as she starts to go through the inevitable withdrawal she has another breakdown and then they lock her up and give her more drugs... It's an endless, exhausting cycle.

    My mom is nominally Catholic.  She was a catechumen with me and was baptized with me last year, but she seems to intellectually understand the faith more than she has internalized it.  And she still resists certain teachings.  It can be incredibly worrisome to think your mom is a Catholic only to hear one day "I don't believe in heaven or hell like you do."  Yeah, she knows that is what the Church teaches, but part of her resists all of this and finds it too harsh, I think.  The problem is that God cannot help her to the fullest extent until she starts to believe everything He says.  I constantly have to admonish her not to kill herself, because part of her obviously still believes if she does, she will have blackness and peace.  The thought of hell nearly drove me insane when I was converting, so I understand why she has gone into denial about it.  But she is also one of those who the fear of hell should help, to stop them from doing something stupid -- if only they'd believe in it.

    Bottom line, I will need the most fervent prayers to the Virgin and to your saints of choice.  I am asking everyone here to help me.  Alexandria, you had good success with your prayers for me, when I was a home-aloner -- now you really have your work cut out for you!  Please pray especially for enlightenment, that she will stop making up her own kinder, gentler religion in her head and accept revealed truths -- and also pray that God has mercy on her.  She was truly duped by the liberal time in which she was raised; a true believer in all the lies, despite having many good qualities ( she was a virgin until marriage and put a high premium on monogamy, just without being in the Church ).  

    I may say more about this tomorrow, more about what led her to this pass, so that people can understand in more detail how she has been driven to this.  But I still feel some of this information is too personal for the Internet, despite the emergency situation.  I'll beg her tomorrow to give me permission, though, because I think it has the seeds of a potential great conversion story.  But she is not there yet, and is in great danger of losing her soul.  Satan is working on her overtime, and it is not pretty.
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.


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    « Reply #1 on: May 26, 2010, 12:03:45 AM »
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  • i'm sorry, it's a terrible thing to see one's mother depressed.


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    « Reply #2 on: May 26, 2010, 12:13:47 AM »
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  • Ask Our Lady of Good Success to help you, and Saint Mariana. Do a novena for your mother.

    http://www.ourladyofgoodsuccess.com/frames-3-4-2005/aaa.htm

    ^ To Saint Mariana.

    http://www.ourladyofgoodsuccess.com/frames-3-4-2005/aaa.htm

    ^ To Our Lady of Good Success.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

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    « Reply #3 on: May 26, 2010, 12:35:19 AM »
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  • Quote from: Raoul76
    I haven't said anything about this because my mom was embarrassed and didn't want her personal information splashed all over the Internet, but I can no longer keep it secret.  Not only do I need to keep myself sane by getting some good advice, but my mom needs all the prayers she can get.

    My mom has been on antidepressants since a ѕυιcιdє attempt when she was around 40, when my dad divorced her.  After that she threw herself into her work with renewed energy, juiced up on these pills.  But two years ago -- she is 64 now -- as I was in the process of conversion, the whole house of sand inevitably collapsed.   The pills weren't working, the work environment had become toxic, and I was telling her she had to quit, because part of her job was incompatible with Catholicism.  She had a major breakdown and became almost like a zombie.  

    Recently my mom tried to hang herself and today I had to check her into the psych ward of a hospital yet again, despite that they continue to ply her with drugs, constantly changing her prescription.  That was outweighed by the necessity that she be closely monitored for the next few days.  The next thing to try is Neurotransmitter Restoration Therapy, but my mom is in a deep black hole.  She will say things like "You were right about everything, but it's too late for me" and "The devil has got me."  No matter what you suggest, the answer comes back as negative and despairing.  

    On top of this, I have her psychiatrist pushing shock therapy on me.  My atheist uncle also sees that as an option while I do not.  They find my Catholicism a nuisance, I think.  I won't even drive her to the pharmacy to get the drugs because they are what got her here in the first place and I have taken a slightly more "tough love" approach, while everyone else is using her as a guinea pig, in my opinion.  If they don't have God, they don't have the answers. Simple as that.  My mom needs to completely detox to see clearly, because I believe these drugs are blocking the action of the Holy Ghost, but as soon as she starts to go through the inevitable withdrawal she has another breakdown and then they lock her up and give her more drugs... It's an endless, exhausting cycle.

    My mom is nominally Catholic.  She was a catechumen with me and was baptized with me last year, but she seems to intellectually understand the faith more than she has internalized it.  And she still resists certain teachings.  It can be incredibly worrisome to think your mom is a Catholic only to hear one day "I don't believe in heaven or hell like you do."  Yeah, she knows that is what the Church teaches, but part of her resists all of this and finds it too harsh, I think.  The problem is that God cannot help her to the fullest extent until she starts to believe everything He says.  I constantly have to admonish her not to kill herself, because part of her obviously still believes if she does, she will have blackness and peace.  The thought of hell nearly drove me insane when I was converting, so I understand why she has gone into denial about it.  But she is also one of those who the fear of hell should help, to stop them from doing something stupid -- if only they'd believe in it.

    Bottom line, I will need the most fervent prayers to the Virgin and to your saints of choice.  I am asking everyone here to help me.  Alexandria, you had good success with your prayers for me, when I was a home-aloner -- now you really have your work cut out for you!  Please pray especially for enlightenment, that she will stop making up her own kinder, gentler religion in her head and accept revealed truths -- and also pray that God has mercy on her.  She was truly duped by the liberal time in which she was raised; a true believer in all the lies, despite having many good qualities ( she was a virgin until marriage and put a high premium on monogamy, just without being in the Church ).  

    I may say more about this tomorrow, more about what led her to this pass, so that people can understand in more detail how she has been driven to this.  But I still feel some of this information is too personal for the Internet, despite the emergency situation.  I'll beg her tomorrow to give me permission, though, because I think it has the seeds of a potential great conversion story.  But she is not there yet, and is in great danger of losing her soul.  Satan is working on her overtime, and it is not pretty.


    Im so sorry Raoul!  The  mind control drugs do that to people after being on them a long time.  The liver becomes toxic.  She needs to do some liver cleanses.
    Ill keep her in my prayers. :pray:

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    « Reply #4 on: May 26, 2010, 06:00:11 AM »
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  • Raoul,

    You can't go off anti-deprressant medication cold turkey like you are sugggesting. It is especially deadly for someone that has been on them for years. They need to be "WEANED" off them slowly over time. Wanting to get your mother off these meds is a good thing, but the way you are going about it is moronic and could be deadly for your mother. You are a smart guy and I would think you would at least do a modicuм of research on these drugs before trying to cold turkey your mother off them. That was very stupid.

    I will pray for your mothers safety.

    Andrew


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    « Reply #5 on: May 26, 2010, 10:45:01 AM »
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  • The "cold turkey" method is definitely not recommended, since no matter what the person is taking, or what for, the body will have become accustomed to them. A gradual decline in use is needed to avoid a potentially disastrous shock to her system.

    In the meantime, it sounds like your mother needs to hear more about the love, mercy and goodness of God. I'm sure there must be some very good books out there on the subject. "I Wait for You" is definitely one of them. Another great topic you might want to introduce her to is St. Therese, "the Little Flower", because her whole 'thing' was about little, helpless souls getting to heaven, who cannot be giants of grace like the great saints, due to their littleness and weakness, but pointing out that it is still possible for them to be "little saints".

    Sometimes we focus so much on the reality of hell, and the "thou shalt not"s that we forget the side of mercy, of love and of God's compassion and understanding for us.

    Also, I would definitely bring Mary and the Rosary into this situation somehow. There is nothing she, through her Divine Son, cannot do. Also St. Joseph! He is definitely the saint for our times!

    God help you both!  :pray:
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    « Reply #6 on: May 26, 2010, 11:30:55 AM »
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  • Raoul

    Have you told Fr. Gabriel all of this?  He must go to see her.  It sounds to me like this may be a combination of things with maybe a little weakness on the part of your Mother being greatly exacerbated by satan and his minions.

    Are you aware of St. Dymphna, the patroness of people with nervous and/or mental disorders?

    I will add your Mother to my prayers.  I hardly know what to say to you, and I can't imagine the stress you are under.  Do you have a good supply of Holy Water?  Drench your home with it.   Whatever you give your mother to drink, put a few drops in it.  Sprinkle it on her food.  Bless all that she owns with it.  I think this has more to do with satan than anything.

    Do you have St. Benedict medals?  Miraculous medals?  I am of the personal opinion that you will get further with Divine Assistance than with so-called "mental health professionals.  I have no faith in psychiatry, psychologists or anything else connected with the "mental health" field.  Anti-depressants seem to have the opposite effect on most people.  I think they just mess more people up than they help.

    God bless you dear Raoul.  Know that you and your mother are in my prayers.  If I had the money, I'd have Masses said for the both of you - you to handle everything and for your mother to be delivered from these demons.  

    Pray to St. Ubaldus too.  He has been "given a special power against the wicked spirits who lay snares for our perdition.  It has frequently happened that the simple invocation of his name has sufficed to foil their machinations...."  The quote is from Dom Gueranger's "The Liturgical Year".

    PM me your mother's first name if you want.

     :pray:

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    « Reply #7 on: May 26, 2010, 11:41:16 AM »
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  • I`m very sorry for you Raoul.

    Did you talk to some priest on this? If you think the psychiatrist is not good, why you don`t try to get some other?. I`m sure someone here can recommend you a good one.

    I`ll pray for both of you.

    God bless you

    Cristian


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    « Reply #8 on: May 26, 2010, 11:47:25 AM »
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  • Quote from: sedetrad
    Raoul,

    You can't go off anti-deprressant medication cold turkey like you are sugggesting. It is especially deadly for someone that has been on them for years. They need to be "WEANED" off them slowly over time. Wanting to get your mother off these meds is a good thing, but the way you are going about it is moronic and could be deadly for your mother. You are a smart guy and I would think you would at least do a modicuм of research on these drugs before trying to cold turkey your mother off them. That was very stupid.

    I will pray for your mothers safety.

    Andrew
      Oh, man, it can cause psychotic breaks to change a med schedule!  We have psychiatrists, psychologists and substance abuse counsellors in our family who have seen the same results of a sudden change.

     This is not the time for Scientology.

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    « Reply #9 on: May 26, 2010, 12:49:08 PM »
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  • You have lots of advice here from people that really care, I don't know what else I can add, except some prayers.

    Maybe a change of scenery might help, what about a little vacation, she might look forward to that.   Something to look forward to seems to be a good prescription for anyone.  
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    « Reply #10 on: May 26, 2010, 03:21:07 PM »
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    « Reply #11 on: May 26, 2010, 03:52:10 PM »
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  • There are some very interesting audios by Fr. Chad Ripperger FSSP who is both a psychologist and exorcist.  He happens to think that the majority of the people being treated by psychiatrists and psychologists are suffering from either diabolical possession or obsession.  

    Go to www.sensustraditionis.org and click on "multimedia."  Scroll down until you get to his sermons on "Spiritual Warfare."

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    « Reply #12 on: May 26, 2010, 03:54:16 PM »
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  • Hope your mom gets well soon. Getting off meds is a dangerous game just like the more sensible minds here have stated.

     I present your experience as further evidence that Club Infallible leads to ...  

      Not good.

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    « Reply #13 on: May 26, 2010, 05:19:22 PM »
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  • Mike,

    I didn't mean to sound so harsh in first reply. I cannot imagine what you are going through. I would be distraught if my mother were in the same dire straits. I just wanted to emphasize the importance of weaning when it comes to these drugs. I am on a beta blocker because of my fast heart rate and if I were to stop taking it suddenly without any weaning, I could end up in the hospital. Beta blockers are mild drugs compared to anti-depressants. I hope that she makes it through this tough situation. You are both in my prayers.

    Andy

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    « Reply #14 on: May 26, 2010, 06:49:33 PM »
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  •  I didn't mean to be harsh either and I also wish the best for you and your family.

    This subject brings to mind what would happen in a national emergency where supplies are cut off. Having a 6 month supply of meds would probably be a good idea.