I think trad women need to mature beyond adolescent recreations, and finally realize swimming isn't important.One needs incredibly dark sunglasses, a special kind that darken according to immodesty. (Borrowing an idea from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy)
Good grief, the big deal some women make about being on the beach or at the pool boggles the mind.
You would think Francis could almost write his next encyclical on the theology of the beach.
Get over it, already.
Swimming is for babies and the navy.
I agree with SeanJohn. Just plain silly and not modest at all anyway you try to slice it.
I think trad women need to mature beyond adolescent recreations, and finally realize swimming isn't important.
Good grief, the big deal some women make about being on the beach or at the pool boggles the mind.
You would think Francis could almost write his next encyclical on the theology of the beach.
Get over it, already.
Swimming is for babies and the navy.
How is this different than a "dress" (vs "swimdress")? Doesn't this cling in the water?I was hoping for an answer to this question. I don't swim, but I don't see a real difference between this product and a short dress. Is the fabric different? Or are these not meant to be worn in the water? And if not, why not just wear a dress on the beach/at the pool?
I was hoping for an answer to this question. I don't swim, but I don't see a real difference between this product and a short dress. Is the fabric different? Or are these not meant to be worn in the water? And if not, why not just wear a dress on the beach/at the pool?These dresses (at least the ones I have gotten) are made of a special material that doesn't cling as much as normal material because it doesn't hold water like most normal clothes. That is one of the main reasons that I prefer them. They also come with leggings (I usually get the really long ones) and many of the dresses come several inches below the knee. Between all of that they are the most modest swimsuits I have come across.
These dresses (at least the ones I have gotten) are made of a special material that doesn't cling as much as normal material because it doesn't hold water like most normal clothes. That is one of the main reasons that I prefer them.Thank you. That is interesting!
I think trad women need to mature beyond adolescent recreations, and finally realize swimming isn't important.I agree with you.
Good grief, the big deal some women make about being on the beach or at the pool boggles the mind.
You would think Francis could almost write his next encyclical on the theology of the beach.
Get over it, already.
Swimming is for babies and the navy.
Yes, mixed-gender swimming usually is an occasion of sin, but what if EVERYONE wore the very modest swimsuits as in the OP's link? In that case, probably not.Where does one draw the line then? Isn't immodesty all around us?
But there's another consideration besides the occasion sin. Even if someone has attained a significant degree of purity, it's still wrong IMO to take part in such a culture of immodesty. Even if I were fully clothed and were entirely safe from occasions of sin, I still would not want to go to a beach or a pool party where everyone was running around immodestly. There's just something incongruous about a Catholic being in such a place.
So, for instance, most saints held dancing to be an occasion of sin. Yet, even if I did not actively participate, and there were no occasion of sin for me personally, I would not want to even be present at a dance (especially modern dances) because of the aversion we have to it given our Catholic sensitivities.
Of course, there could also be the possibility of scandal with your presence as well if it gives someone the impression that you condone that sort of environment.
Where does one draw the line then? Isn't immodesty all around us?
Isn't the line here obvious? I walk around a grocery store where there happen to be a few women wearing shorts or tight shirts, vs. I walk around a beach where nearly 100% of the people there are gravely immodest. In addition, going to buy groceries is a necessary activity, and it would not cause scandal for people to know that you were there, even if some present happened to be immodest.I wonder how Our Lady handled the immodesty in Egypt when daily she had to go to the well etc. ::)
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Isn't the line here obvious? I walk around a grocery store where there happen to be a few women wearing shorts or tight shirts, vs. I walk around a beach where nearly 100% of the people there are gravely immodest. In addition, going to buy groceries is a necessary activity, and it would not cause scandal for people to know that you were there, even if some present happened to be immodest.
The problem women have is that God created them to want to make a "fashion statement" with every clothing situation. It's not possible to be fashionable while swimming. If you want to swim, you can be fashionable/immodest or frumpy/modest. We're not fish; swimming is a luxury.Big important point you brought up there. Generally speaking, women want to be photogenic, look good, appeal to their natural vanity in every situation. Why can't they just focus on the social aspect of swimming as a family? Usually it is a chance to relax, talk, be with your family/kids, etc. Women should be happy with that alone.
I think trad women need to mature beyond adolescent recreations, and finally realize swimming isn't important.
Good grief, the big deal some women make about being on the beach or at the pool boggles the mind.
You would think Francis could almost write his next encyclical on the theology of the beach.
Get over it, already.
Swimming is for babies and the navy.
Yes, let's get into some Catholic doctrine.Thank you!
Has anyone brought up the phrase yet, "Unnecessary occasion of sin"?
A beach is an unnecessary occasion of sin. A grocery shop is a NECESSARY occasion of sin. We have to eat in order to live. We do not need to sunbathe or swim in order to live.
See the difference?
The actual danger, or occasion of sin, could be the same. Heck, it could be WORSE at the grocery store in certain circuмstances (30 young, attractive women in shorts and immodest clothes at the grocery store vs. only 5 near-naked women a good distance away at the beach on a given Monday late morning) but it doesn't change one's clear, rational, Catholic judgment on the matter.
It's all a question of: is it necessary or not to be there?
What fabric have you used and what pattern, please, Seraphina.I use the original (1970s) polyester, the cheap, thick rough cloth that doesn't wrinkle or absorb water. Look on remnant tables or order from Spector's Store, Kidron, Ohio. For a pattern I copy a simple A-line short sleeve dress I've had for decades. I made it in the 1970s from a pattern that is long gone and forgotten. Underneath I make simple elastic waist waist shorts that do not show. I can wear normal undergarments with it, usually a pull-over style top that dries quickly.