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Offline Zeitun

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Misunderstood Temperaments
« on: July 05, 2013, 06:01:23 PM »
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  • Which is the most misunderstood termperament and why?

    Choleric
    Melancholy
    Sanguine
    Phlegmatic


    Offline Frances

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    « Reply #1 on: July 05, 2013, 11:56:41 PM »
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  •  :cry: :confused1:  The most misunderstood is the melancholic temperament because the inner life is kept carefully hidden from view-sometimes from the melancholic himself.  Melancholics wear many masks. :clown:
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    « Reply #2 on: July 06, 2013, 02:57:20 AM »
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  • From my observation, phlegmatics are the most misunderstood. Their strengths are less obvious, less flashy and they also tend to be scorned and looked down upon by the other 3, especially cholerics and sanguines.

    Because cholerics and sanguines tend to be proud of their own weaknesses (how many times do such people boast about being loud or proud or willful, sarcastic etc...) they see what are actually the complementary strengths of the phlegmatic as weaknesses. It's only once they have the humility to realize that those characteristics within themselves are truly weaknesses that they are able to appreciate the characteristics within the phlegmatic as actual strengths.


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    « Reply #3 on: July 06, 2013, 02:49:48 PM »
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  • I've seen these terms used elsewhere but never knew what they were about; just used Wiki to see, but I'm not really clear on it all. I went to college early and participated in some study about how younger kids fit in with older ones (I think it helped pay for tuition, and my parents made me do it). I consistently tested INTJ; they never used any of these temperament terms, or even what INTJ meant. (I was fine in college, I think because of the way I carry myself: friendly, but assertive when I need to be.) Are the 4-letter personalities (INTJ) comparable to these temperaments, or are they totally different?

    I've actually tried to use my INTJ assessment to change my personality to be a better Catholic. Like, if it says INTJs don't like details, I'd force myself to read a poet who described trees in great detail (though I still don't enjoy him). (GRR.) And I work hard on emulating truly humble, faithful people (Saints, but also living people I admire) hoping to ease up on my sometimes cold-seeming personality, but it's harder than it seems! It can come off fake (ie, offensive) to others, which I don't want.

    Maybe I'd have more success seeming warm if I knew a temperament to "work on" and pray about that instead of the briggs-myers (?) 4-letter personality type. I've got to come off (1) more mature when I'm having fun (usually writing code or cooking or everyday things), but mostly (2) less cold and more holy when I'm in a high-stress situation.

    tl/dr: does INTJ translate to these temperaments? If so, I'd throw that temperament in as the least-understood!  :laugh1:
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    « Reply #4 on: July 06, 2013, 10:44:05 PM »
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  • INTJ has nothing to do with the four temperaments, I don't think.
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    « Reply #5 on: July 07, 2013, 08:08:22 AM »
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  • I've always had the impression that the Meyers-Briggs types are somewhat comparable to the temperaments but I've never studied them, so I couldn't tell you how they compare.

    I know you probably shouldn't try to change your personality though. The way we look at it is, your temperament is what God gives you to work with, it cannot be changed, but your character is what you do with that temperament. So in using your strengths and in correcting your weaknesses you are building your character.

    Now, in correcting your weakness you ARE technically building the strength of another temperament. For example, a choleric correcting his temperament is actually developing the strengths of a phlegmatic because they are opposites. But the mindset is different when you think about it in terms of correcting your own weaknesses rather than trying to assume another temperament.

    It seems more doable psychologically to use one's own strengths and accept and correct one's own weaknesses instead of trying to be like someone else, does that make sense? Because no matter how much you correct your own weaknesses, you still won't be that other personality, even if you acquire those strengths. It's best to be secure in your own personality/temperament, see it as the foundation because that's how God made you, and then build character from there.

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    « Reply #6 on: July 07, 2013, 12:11:16 PM »
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  • Conclusion: Three phlegmatics viewed this post, but no melancholics. :cry:
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    « Reply #7 on: July 07, 2013, 12:15:18 PM »
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  • Quote from: Frances
    Conclusion: Three phlegmatics viewed this post, but no melancholics. :cry:


    Where do you get your data on who viewed this post? I did, and I'm a melancholic.


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    « Reply #8 on: July 07, 2013, 12:35:25 PM »
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  • Quote from: Frances
    Conclusion: Three phlegmatics viewed this post, but no melancholics. :cry:


    I'm a choleric melancholy. :)

    Melancholics may be misunderstood now and then but they also suffer from a bit of martyr syndrome. When considering which is more misunderstood, one has to separate the times they feel misunderstood from the times they actually are misunderstood.  :wink:


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    « Reply #9 on: July 07, 2013, 01:07:21 PM »
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  • I'm Melancholic/Sanguine. :)
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    « Reply #10 on: July 07, 2013, 01:17:40 PM »
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  • I think Frances meant who responded to this thread, not viewed. Just a side note.

    I'm a melancholic. I think our types are misunderstood because we don't always say exactly what we mean: a) because we can't put it in words adequately, and b) we are shy of standing out in a crowd and being wrong.

    The temperaments are fascinating and very useful for correcting our faults. I did read that children will have the temperaments of one or both parents. I've found this to be true to an extent. Our children are either dominately choleric (my husband), or melancholic (me), or a mixture of the two....and then one sanguine (what??). Any of you have a similar case?


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    « Reply #11 on: July 07, 2013, 04:15:28 PM »
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  • In my family we have 2 sanguines (me & youngest son), 2 cholerics (sons), and 1 melancholic (DH).

    Here are the combos for each:

    DH-melancholy/phlegmatic  :reading: :sleep:

    me-sanguine/choleric   :jester:  :boxer:

    S1-choleric/phlegmatic  :drillsergeant:  :tv-disturbed:

    S2-choleric/sanguine   :light-saber:  :laugh2:

    S3 - sanguine/phlegmatic   :jester:  :cool: