Author Topic: Missed Sunday obligation (Read 2926 times)

reconquest · « **on:** August 04, 2013, 09:53:16 AM »

Went to bed too late, woke up too late, chapel is about 40 mins away which means mass would have probably ended by the time I got there.

1) Should I have just sucked it up and gone to the N.O. next door?
2) Aside from confession, are there any specific things I should do to make up for this (such as attending an evening mass this week)?

TCat · « **Reply #1 on:** August 04, 2013, 10:05:50 AM »

Same thing happened to me, except the only church in this town is novus ordo, and let me tell you about my local church.

The priests are extreme liberals. There are alter girls. There is no organ music played. The choir is all female, they sing songs they made up themselves with the most corney of lyrics. The women go to mass in revealing clothes. People don't kneel before they enter a bench. There are often mistakes made while the priest says the mass. There are Eucharistic ministers, all female, who place communion into the mouth. The church has alter rails but doesn't use them making it hard to kneel and receive on the tongue. The choir sings protestant songs every now and then. The priests often give heretical speeches in the homily. The candles are all electric and most of them are broken. The statues of saints are behind the alter rails so you cant get near them. The priests are so bad at preaching it makes you wonder are they imposters wearing priest disguise.

And one day just recently, there was a charity that wanted to sing songs to raise money inside the church building. One of the songs they sung was that paul mc cartney(?) song "IMAGINE", with the words
"Imagine there's no heaven"
This was sung inside a Catholic church in practice rehersals. I complained to the priests and nothing was done about it.
There is much I could say about this church.

SO I didn't go to mass because like you I got up late, but I don't feel it is any loss, because my faith suffers from going to this church. Indeed sometimes I go just to punish myself for sin.

At least you live near a TLM, be thankful for the privilege and commit yourself to going next time.

reconquest · « **Reply #2 on:** August 04, 2013, 10:14:46 AM »

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The priests are so bad at preaching it makes you wonder are they imposters wearing priest disguise.

Doesn't it?

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SO I didn't go to mass because like you I got up late, but I don't feel it is any loss, because my faith suffers from going to this church. Indeed sometimes I go just to punish myself for sin.

I broke out laughing here.

TCat · « **Reply #3 on:** August 04, 2013, 10:21:57 AM »

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SO I didn't go to mass because like you I got up late, but I don't feel it is any loss, because my faith suffers from going to this church. Indeed sometimes I go just to punish myself for sin.

I broke out laughing here.

That's just the way it is... unfortunately, whatever can be done? I have found myself trying to convert priests sometimes, they are afraid to talk to me now.

Tiffany · « **Reply #4 on:** August 04, 2013, 10:49:05 AM »

Quote from: TCat

That's just the way it is... unfortunately, whatever can be done?

Stay away from the NO.

Mabel · « **Reply #5 on:** August 04, 2013, 10:59:03 AM »

Your Sunday obligation under ordinary circuмstances is to attend mass at the parish where you have domicile. We are not required to attend mass anywhere else under pain of sin. My parish doesnt have mass on Sunday, theyve replaced it with strange rites. Unfortunately, our parishes have been invaded by non-Catholics, non-Catholic rites, and so many more things that justifiably keep us away from anything of the new religion.

Under these circuмstances, you didn't sin at all anyways. You never intended to miss mass. The best thing to do is to sanctify the day by keeping the laws of the Church regarding servile work and spend as much time in prayer as you would have spent hearing mass.

However, if you place yourself under the 1983 code, none of this really matters. The laws are so lose that there is hardly any purpose to them.

reconquest · « **Reply #6 on:** August 04, 2013, 11:24:04 AM »

Thanks for the on-point reply.

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Under these circuмstances, you didn't sin at all anyways. You never intended to miss mass.

Can someone second this? I never intended to miss mass but carelessly staying up until 3 in the morning on a Saturday (I was listening to ) seems like a violation of the 1st commandment as well as the 3rd.

Ursus · « **Reply #7 on:** August 04, 2013, 11:24:32 AM »

Quote from: Mabel

Your Sunday obligation under ordinary circuмstances is to attend mass at the parish where you have domicile. We are not required to attend mass anywhere else under pain of sin. My parish doesnt have mass on Sunday, theyve replaced it with strange rites. Unfortunately, our parishes have been invaded by non-Catholics, non-Catholic rites, and so many more things that justifiably keep us away from anything of the new religion.

Under these circuмstances, you didn't sin at all anyways. You never intended to miss mass. The best thing to do is to sanctify the day by keeping the laws of the Church regarding servile work and spend as much time in prayer as you would have spent hearing mass.

However, if you place yourself under the 1983 code, none of this really matters. The laws are so lose that there is hardly any purpose to them.

I'm not sure, I'd like to hear more thoughts on this. Sometimes the NO is the only option depending on where we are, location wise for various reasons.

Charlemagne · « **Reply #8 on:** August 04, 2013, 12:20:50 PM »

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Sometimes the NO is the only option depending on where we are, location wise for various reasons.

The NO is never an option under any circuмstances - at least not under my roof.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #9 on:** August 04, 2013, 01:56:18 PM »

Quote from: TCat

Same thing happened to me, except the only church in this town is novus ordo, and let me tell you about my local church.

The priests are extreme liberals. There are alter girls. There is no organ music played. The choir is all female, they sing songs they made up themselves with the most corney of lyrics. The women go to mass in revealing clothes. People don't kneel before they enter a bench. There are often mistakes made while the priest says the mass. There are Eucharistic ministers, all female, who place communion into the mouth. The church has alter rails but doesn't use them making it hard to kneel and receive on the tongue. The choir sings protestant songs every now and then. The priests often give heretical speeches in the homily. The candles are all electric and most of them are broken. The statues of saints are behind the alter rails so you cant get near them. The priests are so bad at preaching it makes you wonder are they imposters wearing priest disguise.

And one day just recently, there was a charity that wanted to sing songs to raise money inside the church building. One of the songs they sung was that paul mc cartney(?) song "IMAGINE", with the words
"Imagine there's no heaven"
This was sung inside a Catholic church in practice rehersals. I complained to the priests and nothing was done about it.
There is much I could say about this church.

SO I didn't go to mass because like you I got up late, but I don't feel it is any loss, because my faith suffers from going to this church. Indeed sometimes I go just to punish myself for sin.

At least you live near a TLM, be thankful for the privilege and commit yourself to going next time.

Did your priest talk with a lisp, and/or were his wrists kinda loose?

For Greater Glory · « **Reply #10 on:** August 04, 2013, 02:10:14 PM »

Mabel said:

Your Sunday obligation under ordinary circuмstances is to attend mass at the parish where you have domicile. We are not required to attend mass anywhere else under pain of sin. My parish doesnt have mass on Sunday, theyve replaced it with strange rites. Unfortunately, our parishes have been invaded by non-Catholics, non-Catholic rites, and so many more things that justifiably keep us away from anything of the new religion.

Under these circuмstances, you didn't sin at all anyways. You never intended to miss mass. The best thing to do is to sanctify the day by keeping the laws of the Church regarding servile work and spend as much time in prayer as you would have spent hearing mass.

However, if you place yourself under the 1983 code, none of this really matters. The laws are so lose that there is hardly any purpose to them.

Thanks so much, Mabel for posting this. Usually, starting on Saturday evenings, I come under attack from the devil about Sunday Mass. I no longer attend the SSPX chapel, and have gone to independent chapels 50 and 70 miles away only several times since last October. It's very hard to go, considering everyone in the house is not going-taking care of chores, tasks, etc. Also, Mass is early, so you must rise really early and I'm 61, not 21 or 31. I get so stressed that I hate to see Sunday coming, but I know I must offer my suffering for my sins! The thought has come to mine, twice, that the Church must provide the Mass, but come Saturday I forget all about that! Thanks again

P. S. I would never go to the novus ordo again. It's a false religion and Anne Catherine Emmerich said to pray that the false church leaves Rome!!!

P. S. If Bishop Fellay could realize the suffering he has caused, he would die. I continue to pray to Our Lady of Prompt Succor for him!

TCat · « **Reply #11 on:** August 04, 2013, 02:13:38 PM »

Quote from: InfiniteFaith

Did your priest talk with a lisp, and/or were his wrists kinda loose?

Hmm. Why, what does a lisp and loose wrists indicate? :detective:

Frances · « **Reply #12 on:** August 04, 2013, 02:29:31 PM »

:scratchchin: Missing Mass WAS your fault because you were presumptuous in believing that you would be able not only to wake up in time to get there, but would also be attentive. Watch out for the word "intent." How many felons doing time "intended" for prison to be the result of their crime? The party-animals in the campground last night did not "intend" to be arrested by the state police on charges of open containers, drugs, public indecency, public nuisance, endangering the welfare of minors, menacing, illegal dumping, creating a fire hazard, and arborcide. (Latter is for chopping down a live tree!) They intended to have a "good time." So missing Mass IS your fault unless you were forced against your will to stay up so late. (If I had overslept, and missed Mass, it would NOT be a sin because I was unable to safely hike past the party-ers to notify the police. There is no cell or internet service in the woods, so I was forced to stay awake in my tent until 4:30am. Then I had to give info. to the sheriff, and move my campsite, lest the few that got away into the woods return tonight. I made it to 11:00 Mass, nonetheless. I'm going to move into the gated area, set up, take a Sunday nap!). You get my point!
As for the novus ordo, don't bother. You may as well go to a protestant service! Hey, we all get indulgent. Make a sincere Act of Contrition, read the Missal, pray 15 Decades, go to Confession, and go to bed early next Saturday! Make that your intention. If you are in a habit of staying up too late, make one concrete step, this day, to do the opposite. Ask Our Lady for help. Mothers are good with bedtimes!

reconquest · « **Reply #13 on:** August 04, 2013, 02:43:39 PM »

That's everything I needed to know. Thanks.

StCeciliasGirl · « **Reply #14 on:** August 04, 2013, 03:20:53 PM »

I missed Mass, too. I was there, but my youngest felt yukky (nauseated, sleepy), and I had to take her outside right after the Gospel. I went downstairs to look for Benedryls or anything to get her through (my son was cantor and we love hearing him), but she was just too sick. My husband had the car keys, and I didn't want to disrupt anything more (it would cause a mass exodus to see if we were okay), so we just waited and I tried to make her comfortable.

But later, someone came out and offered to sit with her so I could go have the Eucharist (he'd just had it, I guess)

So I feel like I caused others to sin by worrying about us (facepalm x 3); I guess it was a nice thought, but I'm certainly not going to miss a good part of the Mass and then step in to get the Eucharist. I shooed him back inside, and I just tried to hear what I could from outside, and prayed a lot, but it feels really crummy being at Mass and not being at Mass. I should have known my daughter wasn't well, and stayed home, but my thoughts have been scattered this weekend.

It's not the exact same thing, of course, but just sharing that I missed Mass at Mass. Sometimes, I guess things just happen. We're Catholic; of course we're going to feel great guilt until the next Sunday Mass.