The concilliar church is a different religion. Might as well went into a mosque and tried to call that your "sunday obligation." The Third Commandment says "Keep Holy the Sabbath Day." If you can't get to Mass, then God isn't going to expect that from you. Keep it holy. Pray, and think of God, and give Him His due. If you missed on purpose, then you've committed a sin. It's a lesser sin if you missed because of a fault, but still a sin. It's one thing to miss on purpose, and another to miss because of a fault.

I missed Mass, too. I was there, but my youngest felt yukky (nauseated, sleepy), and I had to take her outside right after the Gospel. I went downstairs to look for Benedryls or anything to get her through (my son was cantor and we love hearing him), but she was just too sick. My husband had the car keys, and I didn't want to disrupt anything more (it would cause a mass exodus to see if we were okay), so we just waited and I tried to make her comfortable.

But later, someone came out and offered to sit with her so I could go have the Eucharist (he'd just had it, I guess)  

So I feel like I caused others to sin by worrying about us (facepalm x 3); I guess it was a nice thought, but I'm certainly not going to miss a good part of the Mass and then step in to get the Eucharist. I shooed him back inside, and I just tried to hear what I could from outside, and prayed a lot, but it feels really crummy being at Mass and not being at Mass. I should have known my daughter wasn't well, and stayed home, but my thoughts have been scattered this weekend.

It's not the exact same thing, of course, but just sharing that I missed Mass at Mass. Sometimes, I guess things just happen. We're Catholic; of course we're going to feel great guilt until the next Sunday Mass.

Next Sunday, get there early so you could go to confession.  

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That's everything I needed to know. Thanks.

Go to confession as soon as you can.

Also, to Reconquest: read the (traditional) mass from your missal, with the proper. This is general practice for when you cannot assist on Sunday.

You are in mortal sin; 40 minutes travel for a valid mass of St. Pius V is not unreasonable, far from it. Are you a Catholic or not?

It goes without saying that you should not attend a suspect and bastard rite, no matter how nearby it is. If you have questions about why this is so, I welcome them.

In general, it is irreligious to stay up so late on a Saturday without an important reason. Sunday is the Sabbath; it just doesn't do to wake up late and sluggish, with half of it already gone. We should wake up early, with prayer in our hearts and thanksgiving on our lips.

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That's everything I needed to know. Thanks.

Go to confession as soon as you can.

Also, to Reconquest: read the (traditional) mass from your missal, with the proper. This is general practice for when you cannot assist on Sunday.

You are in mortal sin; 40 minutes travel for a valid mass of St. Pius V is not unreasonable, far from it. Are you a Catholic or not?

It goes without saying that you should not attend a suspect and bastard rite, no matter how nearby it is. If you have questions about why this is so, I welcome them.

In general, it is irreligious to stay up so late on a Saturday without an important reason. Sunday is the Sabbath; it just doesn't do to wake up late and sluggish, with half of it already gone. We should wake up early, with prayer in our hearts and thanksgiving on our lips.

The only thing I would add to this, is that I'm not sure it's true to say 40 minutes is not unreasonable.  The reason that if I was in this position I would consider myself in mortal sin is this: If it is a drive I am accustomed to, that means it is within my means.  Different people have different means.  If I drive forty minutes to mass every week (that's about the drive we made to our Resistance Mass center this morning) then obviously it is within my means.  For some people it may not be.  I've heard different magic numbers when it comes to how far for mass is 'too far' (i.e., at what point you are absolved of the obligation) but never anything conclusive.  

Sleeping in and missing mass is a sin of neglect.  Unless necessity drives us to, we should go to bed at a reasonable hour Saturday evening because we have an obligation in the morning.  The principle isn't all that different from a parent not feeding their kids because they forgot.  The fact that you didn't positively intend to miss mass does not lift the obligation.  We are only excused from the obligation if necessity demands it (e.g., staying home with sick kids, being ill yourself, have to work).

Pray your missal if you can't reach mass (which is a Traditional Mass or a Divine Liturgy) and then get to confession if you've missed it because of sloth or another insufficient reason.

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The only thing I would add to this, is that I'm not sure it's true to say 40 minutes is not unreasonable.  The reason that if I was in this position I would consider myself in mortal sin is this: If it is a drive I am accustomed to, that means it is within my means.

I don't own a vehicle; the commute is around 30 minutes on a good day and over an hour on a bad one, which is part of the reason I panicked.

Like I said, if it is within your means, you should be there.  You do not need to make a case for yourself in this thread, you can do that in the confessional.h

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It goes without saying that you should not attend a suspect and bastard rite, no matter how nearby it is. If you have questions about why this is so, I welcome them.

I ended up deciding against going to NO but would indeed appreciate a logical explanation of why staying home is preferable when a true mass is unavailable.

Because your obligation is to attend a Catholic liturgy.  Would you go to the local ѕуηαgσgυє, mosque or protestant Church if you missed mass?  Of course not.  Similarly, a conciliar liturgy does not fulfill one's Sunday obligation.

By staying home, while you are not fulfilling the letter of the obligation, you can at least pray as a Catholic.  

 :shocked:  I believe the travel rule wherein Mass is not required is if travel time is over one hour by conveyance, 30 minutes on foot, or is dangerous due to weather or conditions, or is unreasonably expensive.  This wasn't the OP's question.  If he'd have gone to bed earlier, he'd have been at Mass.  
But to determine the degree of his sin is not up to us!  

It is unwise to try and generate excuses for another.  According to Church rules, I NEVER need hear Sunday Mass!  It's more than hour's travel, would take a week on foot, requires I go through dangerous, crime-infested neighborhoods, and the price between gas and tolls is very unreasonable!  But since I AM able, by God's Providence, to hear Mass most Sundays, despite these inconveniences, why wouldn't I?  Do I sign up for government welfare when I do alright without it?
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You are in mortal sin; 40 minutes travel for a valid mass of St. Pius V is not unreasonable, far from it. Are you a Catholic or not?

Graham, are you? Catholics are required to receive valid instruction from competent authorities. You are not a priest, nor are you a theologian. You have no right, actually you are wrong, to pass public judgements on who is a mortal sinner.  My own opinion is that 40 minute drive with the hazards of traffic and the cost of gas could be seen as unreasonable, but I don't set myself up as a final authority.

Lighthouse, he said he missed mass because he slept in. It doesn't take a priest or a theologian to determine that he sinned mortally.