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Traditional Catholic Faith => General Discussion => Topic started by: jmid on December 10, 2012, 11:44:45 AM
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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/churchmilitanttv/2012/12/06/open-mic-night-with-michael-voris
Michael Voris has a weekly Internet Radio show; this past week he was taking callers to hear what their opinions were on “What is the biggest problem in the Church” It was frustrating that not one person pointed to Rome as the culprit. I wasn’t really surprised though, it seems that people in the NO or even Trads have a hard time admitting that the Pope himself is responsible for the horrible crisis facing Mother Church. What accounts for this? Is it psychological? Like an abusive parent, where the children refuse to believe Daddy is a drunken loser and keep yearning for his love?
Just as the Faith of the Apostles was shaken by the crucifixion, asking “How can this be.” I ask myself the same question , Our Lord tells us “The Gates Of Hell Shall not Prevail” but yet they have prevailed!!! How can this be?? The Church in every way possible has been overrun. Masons and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are now in charge on every level, there is no unity of faith anymore, the church is no longer Holy, she has become a whore, selling herself to the highest bidder. There is no equal in the whole of History of The Church, to the crises we are now facing. We have become like the some poor pathetic beggars asking for some miracle to save us. The Church has been crucified, and yet many people still refuse to believe it, even though the stench is overwhelming. Either the resurrection of The Church needs to happen soon, or we may need to ask ourselves the final question, which is too horrible to even consider.
Veni, veni Emmanuel;
Captivum solve Israel,
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Excellent post, thank you.
Checking out the link now.
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Just as the Faith of the Apostles was shaken by the crucifixion, asking “How can this be.” I ask myself the same question , Our Lord tells us “The Gates Of Hell Shall not Prevail” but yet they have prevailed!!! How can this be??
Then Christ was either in error, or He lied.
So, God therefore doesn't get it right all the time. And therefore, it is okay not to believe what He promises to us. He could even be lying to us about all His promises.
So, why bother continuing to do anything He wants? Heaven is a promise from an inconsistent God.
...by your logic.
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Jmid, here's one man's "man in the street" sound byte:
They LIKE the whole Nervous Ordeal regime. It's painless, it's easy, it's quick as a wink and it FREES them from the "guilt trip" poor ol' granny and grampa were always going on about.
And, if you join the NO regime in the next five minutes they'll also send along this extra special bonus, free of charge!
.... You DON'T HAVE TO THINK! NO STUDY! NO REFLECTION!
That's right, folks! Never again will you have to think objectively, supernaturally... or even naturally. You'll be free to cruise down that river with tangerine trees and marmalade skies to your heart's content! Fr. Flapdoodle and Bp. Bubbles will do ALL the heavy lifting for you! Amazing? Sure! But they're happy to do it FOR you! Just relax your mind and float downstream....
Who cares if you haven't heard from the pulpit a discouraging word since the Nixon Administration or been to Confession since Jimmy Carter? Hey, we're past all THAT, now, right?
Lenin, Stalin, Kruschchev, Brezhnev, Andropov - the lot!, are either screaming in paroxysms of fiery agony right now as the other demons torment them with mockery over how they should have thought of this scam themselves, or....
they're hoisting a few volcanic draughts to each other, toasting their success!
( And, there may may more than a bit to substantiate the latter... )
Dos vidanya, Tovarisch!
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Our Lord tells us “The Gates Of Hell Shall not Prevail” but yet they have prevailed!!! How can this be?? The Church in every way possible has been overrun. Masons and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are now in charge on every level, there is no unity of faith anymore, the church is no longer Holy, she has become a whore, selling herself to the highest bidder. There is no equal in the whole of History of The Church, to the crises we are now facing.
I do not believe that the gates of Hell have prevailed, I think it is only the "institution of the Vatican" that has been overwhelmed, the true Church, those who live by and pass on the actual of the deposit of faith, is still as strong as ever. It's just that the true faith is not widely followed anymore and and it is harder to pass on to a stiff necked people.
The Church overcame Arianism, which was probably worse than what we are going through now, so do not lose heart, Christ will triumph as he promised; he is neither a deceiver nor a liar.
Marsha
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Michael Voris. Bah humbug.
Mr. Voris was very inspirational to me when I was a NO Catholic, but I've become disillusioned with him after I started going to traditional Latin Masses. It's like his theology is right, his zeal is right, and theeeeeeen he says something stupid like, "Vatican II wasn't the problem - the people's interpretation of Vatican II was the problem!"
And then it's like aw man, you were so close! So close! Just take that one last step into being a traditionalist! Come on! You can do it!
He seems like the kind of guy I was a year ago - an ardent lover of tradition, and yet I never said how I really felt about the NO and I didn't go to the TLM because, well, I wanted to be "obedient". I bet Michael Voris attends Mass performed by the FSSP, and he'd probably make a great member over at Fish Eaters. I just hope that one day he throws his lot in with the Society, and starts putting his zeal into tackling the root of our current crisis, and not just its symptoms.
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LARAMIE – Exactly, that’s the unthinkable, that is why the resurrection must happen soon.
Marlelar said-“I do not believe that the gates of Hell have prevailed, I think it is only the "institution of the Vatican" that has been overwhelmed, the true Church, those who live by and pass on the actual of the deposit of faith, is still as strong as ever. The Church overcame Arianism, which was probably worse than what we are going through now, so do not lose heart, Christ will triumph as he promised; he is neither a deceiver nor a liar. “
How can you only the Vatican? Just about every NO parish preaches heresey, or has a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ priest running the show. I can’t think of one, solid, orthodox Bishop in the whole USA !!! (Outside of the few Trad Bishops, who of course are not tolerated in the NO) No offense , but you must live in a cave in the middle of nowheresville to think the” faith is as strong as ever” !! The large majority of Catholics don’t even believe in the most basic tenets of The Faith. Divorce, promiscuity, and paganism is the norm now.
As far as The Arian Crisis, I believe it is much worse now, for just a few the following reasons.(I could write a few thousand page book listing the examples)
1. We have had 5 successive Popes with heretical modernist tendencies.( They all actually took an oath to avoid Modernism !!)
2. Although I believe there was a Pope who burned incense to The Roman Gods, never before in history have we had two successive Popes, along with just about every Bishop in the world, encourage and actually engage in worship to false gods!!
3. Never before in history have we had to witness the weekly blasphemies at NO masses around the world. (Women on the altar, communion in the hand, heresy promoted from the pulpit……the list is endless!!)
4. The constant promotion and elevation of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, Modernists ,Masons to the highest offices of The Church.
5. Divorces officially granted by The Church, to couples that have been married in The Church for many years with children.
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Exactly Alex,
But I am sure most of us were at where is at right now. He just hasn't had that "moment" yet we he finally has to admit that yeaaa Rome is full of crap.
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Some executive from Real Catholic TV accused trads of being Protestant over on Fisheaters, Jitprig posting as Jackson K. Eskew provoked the response. It's almost as if he knew Voris and co. were browsing there.
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Some executive from Real Catholic TV accused trads of being Protestant over on Fisheaters, Jitprig posting as Jackson K. Eskew provoked the response. It's almost as if he knew Voris and co. were browsing there.
Links?
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I believe I have raised the rhetorical question whether it is always good, or charitable, to tell a truth that may cause more harm than good? Not that we should learn truth and wisdom from commercials on TV, but is one really commanded to tell one's wife that this dress makes her look fat just because it's the truth?
So what IS the "truth" about Assisi? At its most objective and stripped of all editorializing, at Assisi the Pope invited religious leaders from around the world to come together and pray for peace. Since this an objectively true statement, it goes far to explain why the secular media ignored it almost completely, and why it would be considered a "page 5" news item even in the Catholic press. It's pretty boring, isn't it?
What makes it interesting to the Protestant Traditionalists in this forum is that, at Assisi, the Pope MIGHT give the impression that he considers all religions to be of equal value. Of course, this impression would be FALSE because the Pope, if asked, would say that all religions are NOT of equal value (as he articulated in Dominus Iesus). Since the Pope does not teach that all religions are of equal value, then any impression that he is so teaching is just plain FALSE.
Okay. Now it can be asked "if you consider this story rather boring and that false impressions about the Assisi event are easily refuted, then why didn't you run a story on it?" How about "Because the positive content of this story is about as interesting as any of several papal visits to various sites in Italy and because there is the potential for misunderstanding (as demonstrated by those who find fault with almost anything the Pope does, who create problems that they can look faithful and pious in the solving) that would make the net value of this story to be negative rather than positive." How's that?
People here in this Forum have reacted to Assisi as an event well beyond its actual importance. Sure, it was important to the Pope to do this, just as it seems to be important to have the Pope add prestige by his presence at countless events. This story was and is almost NOTHING almost EVERYWHERE. Only the Protestant Traditionalists are reacting to this story as if it were comparable to selling indulgences to build St. Peter's basilica!
It's really astonishing how many "out of context" platitudes can be marched out to attack both prudence and common sense. Can anyone take seriously that St. Thomas Aquinas would be thinking about an event like Assisi when he said "If people are scandalized at the Truth, it is better to allow the birth of scandal, than to abandon the Truth." Is the Assisi event even a "Truth"? Or is the Assisi event a scandal primarily because it serves the agenda of those who purport to defend the Faith and want to reinforce their reasons for not being in communion with the Church? If it weren't for the existence of people who have already rejected the authority of the Pope and seek to justify their rejection by accuмulating examples of papal malfeasance, ineptitude and perceived heterodoxy, the Assisi event wouldn't even appear on most radars. The Assisi event is not "Truth." It was an event that can be described objectively as "world religious leaders come together to pray for peace." For reasons that I do not judge honorable, the Assisi event has been made into an occasion of scandal when the entire event could have taken place and passed into history with nary a whimper.
We judged the Assisi event as not newsworthy. I don't think we even covered it as a news item, which could have been done objectively but for the poisonous context which had already been created for its reception. If everyone had let this event pass without notice, it wouldn't have been noticed and couldn't have caused any scandal. But because of the hyperventilating of Protestant Traditionalists, the story became toxic and couldn't even be covered fairly and objectively.
The more important issue, to me, has become how blindingly obvious it is that the voices in this Forum whose raison d'etre seems to be attacking "The Pope and his Church" behind a pretense of loving and defending the Truth have spectacular parallels with early Protestantism! Luther et al attacked "The Pope and his Church" for teaching error, thus forfeiting any authoritative legitimacy in Rome. They had their pet issues which they defended by appeal to an authority other than "The Pope and his Church," namely Scripture. The Protestant Traditionalists use Tradition and the Magisterium (the historical record) against "The Pope and his Church." Unlike Luther et al, because of advances in modern technology, today's Protestant Traditionalists have their own "house organs" (book publishers and magazines), conferences that cater to their issues featuring speakers who who absolutely MUST reinforce the virtue of bashing "The Pope and his Church," and even validly ordained clergy to celebrate liturgies that are disconnected from the authority of the Roman Catholic Church. Most likely, as with early Protestantism, these separatist tendencies will continue until the definition of a truly separate and new Christian denomination will be more obvious. Right now, the Protestant Traditionalists don't perceive themselves so much as "outside the Church" as "we are the real Catholic Church" and what everyone else thought was the Catholic Church has become a "false" ("Conciliar") church." The parallels are striking and, to me, tragic.
So, no, we didn't cover the Assisi event. Perhaps we could have if the well hadn't been so thoroughly poisoned in advance. But since the well was poisoned, it was prudent to ignore the story for the good of souls. Yes, the story was "true," but it isn't always virtuous to tell the truth. It's never a virtue to lie. But you shouldn't always tell the truth. Sometimes silence is the more virtuous course.
Not all the voices in this Forum are Protestant. But the loudest ones are.
Terry Carroll
Executive Producer
RealCatholicTV.com
http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1142220;sa=showPosts
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Wow, that is very disturbing !! If the Bishop of New York held the same exact event in NYC they would have been all over it, but because it was The Pope who did this, they are afraid to touch it. That is the typical Neo-Catholic thinking that I was talking about in my first post. There is something psychological that just makes these people disconnect with reality. The evil one scored a huge victory when he finally got The Papacy in his grasp. If you point out the obvious, well then you are a Protestant, if you just go along, you lose the Faith.
I read on Angelqueen a post fron the Voris camp, the same type of diatribe calling the SSPX schismatic, blah,blah,blah...but you gotta think that sooner or later logic has to catch with these people.
What drives me nuts is these people will go to Trad Chapels!! It just doesn't make sense? If they really bought into this schismatic, protestant name calling stuff , then why not just stay at some "conservative NO"??
With all that being said....I still like the guy!!! Maybe I'm losing it :tinfoil:
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Some executive from Real Catholic TV accused trads of being Protestant over on Fisheaters, Jitprig posting as Jackson K. Eskew provoked the response. It's almost as if he knew Voris and co. were browsing there.
Fisheaters is to the right of Real Catholic TV (on average).
RCTV won't cover Assisi, Fatima's Third Secret or ever suggest the buck stops at the top in relation to many of the Church's problems.
In that sense RCTC is pretty impotent. Bishop so and so did this, how terrible!" [ The only person who can do anything about it, is completely inert but we won't bring that up]. Next week, rinse repeat. "Oh dear! Write letters and complain to the chancery".
Eventually people will either lose heart or look deeper at the problem.
If that was their game then it would be succeeding. I suspect however they are mentally stuck at reaching the conclusions that common sense will take you to.
I'd like to see what their long term subscrition renewals look like. I bet people subscribe for a year, maybe two and then move on.
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Wow! I had no idea those folks paid attention to the Fisheaters. I wonder if any of them read my posts.
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Some executive from Real Catholic TV accused trads of being Protestant over on Fisheaters, Jitprig posting as Jackson K. Eskew provoked the response. It's almost as if he knew Voris and co. were browsing there.
Fisheaters is to the right of Real Catholic TV (on average).
RCTV won't cover Assisi, Fatima's Third Secret or ever suggest the buck stops at the top in relation to many of the Church's problems.
In that sense RCTC is pretty impotent. Bishop so and so did this, how terrible!" [ The only person who can do anything about it, is completely inert but we won't bring that up]. Next week, rinse repeat. "Oh dear! Write letters and complain to the chancery".
Eventually people will either lose heart or look deeper at the problem.
If that was their game then it would be succeeding. I suspect however they are mentally stuck at reaching the conclusions that common sense will take you to.
I'd like to see what their long term subscrition renewals look like. I bet people subscribe for a year, maybe two and then move on.
Perhaps true but I know there are members who are practically life
members, not because they're in need of it, but because they think that
RCTV is doing an important work of spiritual mercy: instructing the ignorant.
You've go to keep in mind where the standard deviation is on the
bell curve KWIM? And the skew factor --- or the "eeeeww factor."
Maybe you don't need it, but there are a lot of others out there that do,
and if Voris is putting out a product that cracks that nut, then there is
some hope for the future. What would there be without him?
EWTN? TAN Books? The Remnant?
Might as well be Circle Media or The Tidings. ........... Or DICI ... HAHAHAHA
woops.. that's not funny...............
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FWIW, recent and brief discussions with a few Nervous Ordealers has indicated to me that there is, deep down, an unease and they ARE looking, at least, at the Latin Mass as superior to the other stuff that drives them nuts. That is at least a tiny beginning - for them.
Most Trads, no - 98% of ALL Trads with whom I am very well acquainted have arrived at this life-altering realization following prolonged study and reflection. There are, in my own little circle, only a tiny number who were Trads right from the get-go, back in the 60s and 70s.
Thus, Voris serves a basic purpose. He's got some people starting to ask "why"?
Eventually, some number of those will run into people like us and we can show them.
I have mixed emotions about MV. He does a good job at "what" he's about and his sincerity and commitment are unquestionable. Officially, including the men working with him, are still off-put by the "irregularity" of the SSPX. However, it was not too long ago that MV did a very fair, balanced and honest show on the SSPX and it demonstrated his willingness to examine the facts, close up.
It took me a few years to decide the Trad movement really WAS what it claimed. Those hesitancies, largely emotional, are tough to discard all at once. Yet, if one just keeps studying the good, solid material that is out there, one day dawn will break on marble head and, bingo!
I'm not going "nice" on the issue of the unbridgeable gap between Santo Subito's "version" of the Church and Catholicism itself, but every day there ARE Catholics at any of a number of stages along the continuum that eventually will get them back on track with orthodox doctrine and practice.
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How can you only the Vatican? Just about every NO parish preaches heresey, or has a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ priest running the show. I can’t think of one, solid, orthodox Bishop in the whole USA !!!
NO parishes are part of the "institution of the Vatican" and are thereby contaminated with the same worldly spirit as the Vatican itself. I'm sorry I wasn't clear, I didn't mean just Vatican city, or the buildings in Rome, I meant the whole "structure" and that includes the current parish system as they take their orders from the Vatican regardless of where they are situated geographically.
My point is that the true faith is alive and well, the gates have not "prevailed", the true faith is lived by fewer and fewer people but it does still exist.
Marsha
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In response to Jmid, the gates of Hell have not prevailed. Our Lord suffered His Passion... Shouldn't His Bride, the Church, do the same?!? Same can be applied to us... Do we think that Heaven should come cheap??!?!
The wheat is being separated from the chaff. From all Eternity, we were destined by Our Father to be in these times! We must fight under the banner of the Red and the Blue! Rosaries in hand, souls beautiful by the Holy Ghost being present, we need to be an example to the world!
Our Lady of Fatima said that many people go to Hell, because there is no one to pray for them... We cannot be dejected looking around at the chaos...
Keep your eyes fixed on our Captain and our Queen! As Bishop Sheen said, "dead bodies float downstream.. It takes a real person with character to swim against the tide!"
Pax,
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Ps yes, sigh, I know that B. Sheen said some modernist things...please read for content!! :)
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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/churchmilitanttv/2012/12/06/open-mic-night-with-michael-voris
Michael Voris has a weekly Internet Radio show; this past week he was taking callers to hear what their opinions were on “What is the biggest problem in the Church” It was frustrating that not one person pointed to Rome as the culprit. I wasn’t really surprised though, it seems that people in the NO or even Trads have a hard time admitting that the Pope himself is responsible for the horrible crisis facing Mother Church. What accounts for this? Is it psychological? Like an abusive parent, where the children refuse to believe Daddy is a drunken loser and keep yearning for his love?
Just as the Faith of the Apostles was shaken by the crucifixion, asking “How can this be.” I ask myself the same question , Our Lord tells us “The Gates Of Hell Shall not Prevail” but yet they have prevailed!!! How can this be?? The Church in every way possible has been overrun. Masons and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are now in charge on every level, there is no unity of faith anymore, the church is no longer Holy, she has become a whore, selling herself to the highest bidder. There is no equal in the whole of History of The Church, to the crises we are now facing. We have become like the some poor pathetic beggars asking for some miracle to save us. The Church has been crucified, and yet many people still refuse to believe it, even though the stench is overwhelming. Either the resurrection of The Church needs to happen soon, or we may need to ask ourselves the final question, which is too horrible to even consider.
Veni, veni Emmanuel;
Captivum solve Israel,
Jmid, you are not alone in your thoughts. Where is the simple Catholic world of my youth, the 1950s. Today, everyone has to be a theologian to try to figure out how the word of God still holds true while Rome behaves like Protestants.
This must be where blind faith comes in. There are times I cannot believe God would allow things to get so bad IN HIS CHURCH. But He did. Oh yes I know there are traditional theologians who try to explain the situation but it all feels made up to me. So it all comes down to blind faith. I prefer understandable faith, but I cannot figure that out. That is all we have left Jmid, the only explanation that makes sense to me.
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Wow, it must have been so nice to live in the 50's... That is my favourite era!
Ever since I was little, I felt that I was "misplaced" in the wrong era! :) I always wanted to be Donna Reed (but not to vacuum in high heels, ha ha!)
Must have been nice to live in the time when the Church was truly Catholic, and even if you went to Holy Mass in Spain, you would still be able to follow along!
<sigh!>
michaela +
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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/churchmilitanttv/2012/12/06/open-mic-night-with-michael-voris
Michael Voris has a weekly Internet Radio show; this past week he was taking callers to hear what their opinions were on “What is the biggest problem in the Church” It was frustrating that not one person pointed to Rome as the culprit. I wasn’t really surprised though, it seems that people in the NO or even Trads have a hard time admitting that the Pope himself is responsible for the horrible crisis facing Mother Church. What accounts for this? Is it psychological? Like an abusive parent, where the children refuse to believe Daddy is a drunken loser and keep yearning for his love?
Just as the Faith of the Apostles was shaken by the crucifixion, asking “How can this be.” I ask myself the same question , Our Lord tells us “The Gates Of Hell Shall not Prevail” but yet they have prevailed!!! How can this be?? The Church in every way possible has been overrun. Masons and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are now in charge on every level, there is no unity of faith anymore, the church is no longer Holy, she has become a whore, selling herself to the highest bidder. There is no equal in the whole of History of The Church, to the crises we are now facing. We have become like the some poor pathetic beggars asking for some miracle to save us. The Church has been crucified, and yet many people still refuse to believe it, even though the stench is overwhelming. Either the resurrection of The Church needs to happen soon, or we may need to ask ourselves the final question, which is too horrible to even consider.
Veni, veni Emmanuel;
Captivum solve Israel,
Prepare yourself because it is going to get worse. Wherever the Catholic Faith is you will find the Church still alive, have courage. In other words if there is a family keeping the Faith and honoring Mary it is there that you have the proof the Church is still here and when the Catholic Faith is practiced unadulterated you will very quickly notice holiness begin to sprout. The Faith is holy. It does not depend on anybody to keep it's holiness. False Catholics (like the pope & bishops) who live bad lives can do nothing to change the holiness of the True Church which Christ left here for our eternal salvation. The true Faith is holy and will make true Catholics holy.
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Wow, it must have been so nice to live in the 50's... That is my favourite era!
Ever since I was little, I felt that I was "misplaced" in the wrong era! :) I always wanted to be Donna Reed (but not to vacuum in high heels, ha ha!)
Must have been nice to live in the time when the Church was truly Catholic, and even if you went to Holy Mass in Spain, you would still be able to follow along!
<sigh!>
michaela +
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This was Ireland in the 1950s. We were not rich then, but we were very happy. The churches were so packed one could be pushed off one end of the pew to make room for at the other end. There were days one could not get into certain Masses so packed were they. Say there was something on in the parish church. From an hour before the streets would come alive with people leaving their homes to make their way towards the ringing bells. It was so natural for all to attend church functions. The country was Catholic, nothing happened without the bishops and priests being invited.
The schools were so Catholic every subject included Catholicism in some way. We learned the penny cathecism by heart, theologiand by the age of ten. Just listen to thiss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dMOk4EQybQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0q-_gWOYjY
The voices are real kids of that era.
I recall a Christian Brothers' seminary near my home, 300 acres of land where they grew everything to eat, kept cows for milk etc. Some days they would walk in pairs up the road, they stretched for a quarter of a mile there were so many. That seminary is now a Raddison Hotel.
My father, Lord rest his soul, submitted his three sons to a convent to serve mass at 7.30 AM each day. Later I was an alter boy at the local parish. Me and my pal volunteered to serve everything, not because we were holier than others, but because we could get out in the evenings. The retreats were for men then another for women. If I was serving Mass at the womens' retreat we had to leave the church for the instruction.
Dirty films and books were banned and the constitution was Catholic. The classic films shown were very decent. TV consisted of Robin Hood in snow, indeed everything in snow. Parish dances were held, the boys lined one side of the room, girls the other. the priest would be there, separating couples that got too close together.
Sin was diffucult, the girls kept the boys in check, not a kiss until the third date.
But we were all happy.
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Your post brought tears to my eyes, it sounds like Heaven!! :pray:
I had the wonderful fortune of going to Ireland about six years ago...my family came from County Cavan. I was able to visit there, and Dublin and a sweet little town named Mallahide.
Wonderful days, wish I could have seen more... Unfortunately had to be admitted to the hospital for 3 days, but I long to return again and spend months if not years there! <3
Thank you for allowing us to see inside of your world, and some of your happy memories. You are very truly blessed!
Love,
michaela +
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Cassini
Thank you for your post.
I am 48 years old, I always tell my kids that I saw "The tail end" of the Old America growing up in North Jersey. I remember when I was young going to Mass to a packed house in very large Catholic Churches, standing room only.
It must have been the beginning of The NO, around 69-73. There were Processions through the streets of our city( Which had mostly Italians,Irish,Polish ethnics) I remember hanging out with my buddies on the corner, and having Nuns walking up and stopping to admonish us.
There was a Pizzeria, all the kids would eat at, one time my buddies and I were there, it was very loud with all the kids laughing and joking, then all of a sudden The Parish Priest walked in and the place went silent. He walked to each table and spoke with each one, told us all to be good.
It was very strange, of course these are the memories of a young mind, but there wasn't any divorce, all the Moms were home,in the neighborhood we were all the same religion and shared the same culture.
At the public school I went to, we had a boys gym and the girls had their own gym.
I recall when we were making First Communion, we had to go on a retreat during the week, and the whole class except for the two kids, left school to go.
Then all of a sudden the modern world came crashing down on us and its been mayhem ever since.
Now the Churches are empty, 99% of those kids from the pizzeria and retreat either became secular or Protestant; the Nuns and Priests are no where in sight, no more processions, the neighborhood is now Americanized ( Jєωιѕн Multi-cultural)
Sooo Sad
Cassini you hit the nail on the head, when you said all the explanations seem made up, so right....so very right.
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Your post brought tears to my eyes, it sounds like Heaven!! :pray:
I had the wonderful fortune of going to Ireland about six years ago...my family came from County Cavan. I was able to visit there, and Dublin and a sweet little town named Mallahide.
Wonderful days, wish I could have seen more... Unfortunately had to be admitted to the hospital for 3 days, but I long to return again and spend months if not years there! <3
Thank you for allowing us to see inside of your world, and some of your happy memories. You are very truly blessed!
Love,
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Michaela, I was born not too far from Malahide. I went to primary school near there too. It is a small world.
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I tell you what, Mallahide was so charming, as soon as I got discharged from the hospital, I asked my husband if it was alright with him if we stayed there the rest of our holiday!!
I have a great picture sitting at the Coffee Scene right across from St Sylvester's (?), and across from Duffy's Pub.
It was so wonderful, we just happened to walk into St. Sylvester's right during Adoration..it was such a grace-filled time. We stayed in that church a lot during the rest of our holiday, too! :pray:
The darndest thing happened, though. I was sitting at the Coffee Scene (having a beautiful scone, BTW), and snapped a picture of the spire of the church. Got home, and guess what??!?! that was the ONLY pic that did not show up. <sigh>
At least I got some pictures of the inside.
Will you ever go back, on holiday or otherwise? If I get better, I would like to go to Rome, and then back to Mallahide.
Erin Go Bragh! :alcohol:
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