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Offline Last Tradhican

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Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2018, 01:05:53 PM »
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    Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    "In the country of blind men, the one eyed man is a king."

    What other "conservative" bishop is there left in the Novus Ordo for Matt to interview? Even among all the traditionalist groups Indult/SSPX/Sede  he is left only with Fellay.

    Schneider is a one eyed man, a conservative progressivist, like Ratzinger is now.
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24


    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #16 on: August 04, 2018, 03:46:53 PM »
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  • Yeah and that little guy... 4th from the left... could he be a Rasputin understudy?  :facepalm:



    This co-religionist photo says it all for Bp. Schneider.

    But, to be sure, here's some more of his quotes:

    Here's what he said at a conference for bishops in Rome on 17 December 2010,


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    "Taking account of the experience of several decades since then, of interpretations doctrinally and pastorally confused, and contrary to the continuity, over two millennia, of doctrine and prayer of the faith, the necessity and the urgency rise for a specific and authoritative intervention by the pontifical Magisterium for an authentic interpretation of the conciliar texts with completions and doctrinal clarifications: a type of “Syllabus errorum circa interpretationem Concilii Vaticani II.” There is need for a new Syllabus, this time directed not so much against errors coming from outside the Church, but against errors spread within the Church on the part of those who maintain a thesis of discontinuity and rupture with its doctrinal, liturgical, and pastoral application. Such a Syllabus would consist of two parts: a part marking errors and a positive part with propositions of doctrinal clarification, completion, and precision."
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    “Syllabus errorum circa interpretationem Concilii Vaticani II.” ~~~~~ What a waste of time!
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    I've got a better idea: Take Vatican II and Throw It Into the FIRE!

    Like one courageous priest did in another thread here but I lost the link somehow.
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    Offline s2srea

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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #17 on: August 05, 2018, 07:49:18 AM »
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  • I think you have your facts mixed up:.....
    Thank you SJ (and incredulous) for the thoughtful reply. Good point about the user name. My name is Richard Attar. 
    To be clear, and  I'm sorry I won't be able to post much more than this for right now, yes I do align myself with the views I've seen of Michael Matt. Though I'm not some sort of apologist for him in any way. I can only speak to articles and videos I've seen of his. I understand what you're saying about him making the comparison to the Archbishop. Yes my views on many topics have changed. I I cannot refuse the direction I believe God has  moved me towards. And I believe it to be for the better. God bless you all.

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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #18 on: August 05, 2018, 07:56:11 AM »
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  • Thank you SJ (and incredulous) for the thoughtful reply. Good point about the user name. My name is Richard Attar.
    To be clear, and  I'm sorry I won't be able to post much more than this for right now, yes I do align myself with the views I've seen of Michael Matt. Though I'm not some sort of apologist for him in any way. I can only speak to articles and videos I've seen of his. I understand what you're saying about him making the comparison to the Archbishop. Yes my views on many topics have changed. I I cannot refuse the direction I believe God has  moved me towards. And I believe it to be for the better. God bless you all.

    I am impressed by the humble tenor of your response.  

    Shortly after I had posted my comment, I thought I was a bit harsh the way I made my response, and wished I could have softened it a bit.  But the editing window having expired, "scripsi, scripsit."  

    Which is all to say that, though I disagree with your position, I am edified by the way you handle yourself; I could learn from that.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    Offline Incredulous

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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #19 on: August 05, 2018, 04:07:41 PM »
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  • Thank you SJ (and incredulous) for the thoughtful reply. Good point about the user name. My name is Richard Attar.
    To be clear, and  I'm sorry I won't be able to post much more than this for right now, yes I do align myself with the views I've seen of Michael Matt. Though I'm not some sort of apologist for him in any way. I can only speak to articles and videos I've seen of his. I understand what you're saying about him making the comparison to the Archbishop. Yes my views on many topics have changed. I I cannot refuse the direction I believe God has  moved me towards. And I believe it to be for the better. God bless you all.

    Thanks s2srea.
    Didn't mean come-off as uncharitable.
    But the day I fall for Bp. Schnieder's apostolate, is the day I give up the trad Catholic fight.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #20 on: August 05, 2018, 05:45:53 PM »
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  • Thanks s2srea.
    Didn't mean come-off as uncharitable.
    But the day I fall for Bp. Schnieder's apostolate, is the day I give up the trad Catholic fight.
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    But - but what if Bishop Schnieder converts first ----> would you then still be giving up the TCF?   :farmer:
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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #21 on: August 05, 2018, 05:58:54 PM »
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    But - but what if Bishop Schnieder converts first ----> would you then still be giving up the TCF?   :farmer:
    That would take a miracle!

    But - nothing is impossible with God.
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #22 on: August 05, 2018, 06:06:51 PM »
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  • His Excellency Bishop Schneider is one of the best Bishops in the Conciliar Church. He is opposed to receiving Holy Communion in the hand, openly speaks out against the "gαy pride" movement, and supports the use of the Traditional Latin Mass. He has also demonstrated courage in defense of the truth.

    However, associating with the Conciliar Church is akin to associating with error and heresy. It almost impossible to be a cleric in the Conciliar Church without accepting error or heresy at some point. Although I am averse to criticizing clergy, it is clearly evident that the errors of the Conciliar Church have influenced His Excellency Bishop Schneider in some ways.
    "Nam, etsi ambulavero in medio umbrae mortis, non timebo mala, quoniam tu mecuм es. Virga tua, et baculus tuus, ipsa me consolata sunt." - Psalmi 22:4


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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #23 on: August 05, 2018, 06:17:15 PM »
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  • Dear s2srea,

    I've been to a few MJM conferences in the past, myself... earlier this year Mr Matt held a conference to "unite all of Tradition" against the apostasy of Rome and to address the crisis . I suspect that was the conference where you saw Bishop Schneider speaking. He was there.
    Because it was advertised as bringing ALL of Tradition together (  representatives from the FSSP , SSPX as well as some "friends of Tradition" from the Consiliar church attended ), I wrote on the Remnant comment board that Mr Matt needed to include the four Resistance Bishops if he were serious about including everyone in Tradition.
    Well ...fireworks was the response from Mr Matt. ( I strongly suspect he was the comments moderator by his personal reference to Bishop Williamson and sincerely nasty response to me- I don't think a hired moderator would be allowed to go there) Needless to say he didn't feel Bishops Williamson, Faure, Aquinas and Zendejas names should even be mentioned, let alone invited. We may be critical of MJM, but he doesn't even want to acknowledge our existence however valid it is.

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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #24 on: August 05, 2018, 06:55:03 PM »
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  • Dear s2srea,

    I've been to a few MJM conferences in the past, myself... earlier this year Mr Matt held a conference to "unite all of Tradition" against the apostasy of Rome and to address the crisis . I suspect that was the conference where you saw Bishop Schneider speaking. He was there.
    Because it was advertised as bringing ALL of Tradition together (  representatives from the FSSP , SSPX as well as some "friends of Tradition" from the Consiliar church attended ), I wrote on the Remnant comment board that Mr Matt needed to include the four Resistance Bishops if he were serious about including everyone in Tradition.
    Well ...fireworks was the response from Mr Matt. ( I strongly suspect he was the comments moderator by his personal reference to Bishop Williamson and sincerely nasty response to me- I don't think a hired moderator would be allowed to go there) Needless to say he didn't feel Bishops Williamson, Faure, Aquinas and Zendejas names should even be mentioned, let alone invited. We may be critical of MJM, but he doesn't even want to acknowledge our existence however valid it is.
    And you guys aren't even sedevacantists!  We're truly the bottom of Matt's barrel!  :laugh2:
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #25 on: August 05, 2018, 07:41:37 PM »
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  • Dear s2srea,

    I've been to a few MJM conferences in the past, myself... earlier this year Mr Matt held a conference to "unite all of Tradition" against the apostasy of Rome and to address the crisis . I suspect that was the conference where you saw Bishop Schneider speaking. He was there.
    Because it was advertised as bringing ALL of Tradition together (  representatives from the FSSP , SSPX as well as some "friends of Tradition" from the Consiliar church attended ), I wrote on the Remnant comment board that Mr Matt needed to include the four Resistance Bishops if he were serious about including everyone in Tradition.
    Well ...fireworks was the response from Mr Matt. ( I strongly suspect he was the comments moderator by his personal reference to Bishop Williamson and sincerely nasty response to me- I don't think a hired moderator would be allowed to go there) Needless to say he didn't feel Bishops Williamson, Faure, Aquinas and Zendejas names should even be mentioned, let alone invited. We may be critical of MJM, but he doesn't even want to acknowledge our existence however valid it is.
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    If the Novus Ordo supporters of Fr. Gruner were of concern to him, ramp that up threefold for MJ Matt. He is entirely sold out to giving Novus Ordites their standard fare, nothing that would scandalize them. They would run straight to their bishop who would issue some official-sounding denunciation of The Remnant, and it would be curtains for Matt & Co. So he won't even go there.
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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #26 on: August 15, 2018, 07:54:36 PM »
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  • Recently heard that the rank & file SSPX priests are condoning and welcoming of Bp. Schneider.

    What pathetic neo-trad-theater.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #27 on: August 15, 2018, 11:48:23 PM »
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  • Cardinal Burke is getting old, Bp Schneider is the next "conservative V2 prelate"...

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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #28 on: August 16, 2018, 08:11:07 AM »
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  • How does Bishop Athanasius find time to be a shepherd to his flock when he is traveling around to give talks?   

    And if he participated in ecuмenical worship services, doesn't that break the first Commandment?  
    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #29 on: August 16, 2018, 08:12:20 AM »
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  • Cardinal Burke is getting old, Bp Schneider is the next "conservative V2 prelate"...
    Matt and his ilk, will glom onto some other conciliar prelate who he can pass of as "traditional".