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Offline TCat

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« on: August 29, 2013, 07:21:34 AM »
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  • On Churchmilitant.tv the vortex episode of 29/8/13 features an interview with a mexico bishop who made the most disgusting statements.

    He explains with a vigour that could only have come from sin and the devil, his point of view that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are normal and that the church is wrong to call it a sin.

    He said anyone who thinks they are depraved is mentally ill.

    I am furious. These people are traitors. He betrays God but he also betrays himself! What a parasite. He and people like him are precisely the reason the Catholic faith is disappeared and replaced with this modern pseudo protestant liberal pseudo Marxist freemason led cesspool of fαɢɢօtry just leeching off the people stupid enough to go to the novus ordo.

    I must do something about this. I will start by never going to novus ordo again. This is NOT my church. This is the furthest thing from Catholic.
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    Offline Frances

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    « Reply #1 on: August 29, 2013, 07:41:46 AM »
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  •  :applause:Healthy outrage!
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  


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    « Reply #2 on: August 29, 2013, 08:20:24 AM »
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  • Good for you, TCat.  Leaving the Novus Ordo Church is the most important battle line to draw.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    « Reply #3 on: August 29, 2013, 09:39:34 AM »
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  • Quote from: Mithrandylan
    Good for you, TCat.  Leaving the Novus Ordo Church is the most important battle line to draw.


    Agreed. We can see your growth here on the forum, TCat. Don't ever look back. Believe me, you'll find true peace by leaving the NO for good.
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    « Reply #4 on: August 29, 2013, 09:50:03 AM »
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  • Alas, it will take years before I move to a place where I can receive the sacraments. But the NO is no substitute. The SSPX would say that it gives people a protestant spirit, and that was what was happening, I became lukewarm in the faith. but I have no love for the novus ordo.

    But its typical of the Vatican 2 church to have bishops like these. This man is proliferating poison and infecting his flock ( if he has a flock ).
    Really the only way to avoid being contaminated if you go to novus ordo is to not listen to the priests and bishops. You never get Catholic dogma from any of them. How they get away with this used to be beyond me, but now it is clear that the hierarchy not only tolerates this anti-Catholicism, but actively promotes it, and promotes NOTHING ELSE!!

    No wonder the conciliar church is in rigour mortis. It is being eaten by flesh eating worms as we speak.
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    « Reply #5 on: August 29, 2013, 09:58:04 AM »
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  • You will receive so many graces by staying home and praying the Rosary, reading from your missal, watching the Mass online, etc. You will receive NO graces from the NO "sacraments." My family and I are able to attend Mass only a handful of times per year; our closest Mass is 200 miles away. Pray, pray, pray.
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    « Reply #6 on: August 29, 2013, 11:13:02 AM »
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  • One must wonderful why pedophilia is "abnormal"?  Does the good Bishop think that we are "sick in the head" for condemning those individuals who like to look at images of nude children?  Go head and play the "Devil's advocate" here.

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    « Reply #7 on: August 29, 2013, 02:38:53 PM »
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  • This bishop is not a bishop. He is a traitor to God and to the church.
    Yeah I see why you say the new mass and go along with all of the apostacy of Vatican 2, I see it all now, youre an avid ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ supporter, you want to encourage their sickeing disgusting evil hellish acts, you see nothing wrong with that because you are a traitor, and according to you you think all of the catholic traditions of the saints are bad while everything that comes from this new world of evil and sleazy lust obsessed garbage state where parasites rule is good according to you. You are vain and full of yourself, a total careerist who sells out everything he supposedly stood for just for an increase in prestige and rank from equally sodomite loving leeches back in the Vatican. I would not be surprised if you were a homo yourself looking for ways to abuse kids if any of them still comes to your church. I bet you have ordained other liberal acyolites just like you whose mission is to destroy all trace of the catholic faith. YOu are nothing but a burden on souls, you are an apostate, a disgrace, an abomination, a willing fag lover whose place can be found in Sodom before it was destroyed by the wraith of GOD.
    You will not escape the wraith of God. Anyone with a soul left in them after your nihilistic poison will leave your disgusting presence and discover tradition, which will seem as a different planet to them from where they have come from. You do not live on this planet, you life on fagtopia, a place where sleazy liberal fagmaker bishops ridicule the faith by their very existence and serve up a plate of your own excrement for your flock to consume. If you still have a flock that is. Soon you will face the consequences of your decisions, your flock will be gone, you will have to sell your church to pay victims of abuse and your congregation will be almost entirely fαɢɢօts with no trace of the catholic faith in them whatsoever. You are not a CAtholic, and as such you aint no muthafkn bishop of mine! SHAME ON YOU"!!!
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    « Reply #8 on: August 29, 2013, 02:41:38 PM »
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  • Were you surprised to hear a Novus Ordo "bishop" in support of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity? I would be more surprised to hear one oppose it.
    R.I.P.
    Please pray for the repose of my soul.

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    « Reply #9 on: August 29, 2013, 02:44:05 PM »
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  • no not really surprised but it still pisses me off because I wanted to join the church but I cant because its gone and reduced to a remnant. I will never be able to do what I want because of them! They all hate what the religion stands for! :really-mad2:

    and he calls us mental that is just wrong and gets to me :boxer:
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    « Reply #10 on: August 29, 2013, 03:16:07 PM »
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    I will never be able to do what I want because of them!


    Wrong, my friend. You're already doing what you NEED... what you WANT, which is the freedom to worship in your homeland according to the Tradition of Holy Church, will, will, WILL COME.

    IT WILL.

    A penitent heart, a desire for true contrition and the avoidance of mortal sin and Our Lady's Rosary were (and are) sometimes the only things the saints of old times (and our future ones, Deo volente) ever had (or will have, for now).

    Hang in there... I'm in your boat, too. I don't even have a traditional priest I can get to nor trust (We have ICK, plenty of diocesan Messes and an SSPX chapel, but I don't trust +Fellay and I won't go to them until I know where they stand re: Rome and recognition).

    You DO have, however, POWERFUL weapons against sin and despair and discouragement.

    Our Lord Jesus Christ promised never to leave or forsake us, never to leave us fatherless. He promised the Holy Ghost to all who obey Him. Our Lady graced us with her Rosary, and there are countless stories of miracles associated with those who faithfully obeyed Our Lord's Church, even in dire situations, and were protected by Our Lady's promises to those who faithfully recite her Psalter.

    Take courage... those who cling to Christ, no matter how weak and feeble their powers may be, will find salvation if they endure to the end. There's only one way to do that. Hate sin, beg forgiveness, pray faithfully, devote your mind and heart to "things above, and not [on] things beneath".

    Praying for you.

    Immaculate Heart of Mary, triumph soon!

    Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.
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    « Reply #11 on: August 29, 2013, 06:38:37 PM »
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  • That bishop has already been "rebuked" and sent to Rome last year to answer for his "TRANSgressions".
    Archbishop Raul Vera of the Archsiocese of Saltillo in the state of Coahuila, Mex.
    Quite a rapsheet.  Quite a character.
    He installed the famous Rocker priest: "Fr." Adolfo Huerta Aleman


    Last year, the good bishop also installed Fr. Humberto Alvarez, the holy water shooting-out-of-a-super-soaker comic book priest.



    Bp. Raul Vera, backed by an american priest Robert Coogan, a "ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Catholic ministry priest". Started a fαɢɢօt Group in Coahuila Called San Elredo. (no saint by that name btw).  
    Fr. Coogan

    Well, when episcopal masses became overtly gαy,

    Bishop Vera....


    Parishoner became furious. They blocked the Cathedral, they sent letters to the Nuncio, letters to Rome. I can't find the pictures of the protesters. But they covered the Cathedral fence with cardboard signs saying "send him to Rome!"
     "We want a Catholic Bishop!".  True story.

    Then Bishop Vera gets called in by Rome. He returned to his archdiocese 1 month later, and everything was business as usual. They didn't do jack $%^# to him.

    His pastoral group meeting banners:


    One of his mass pamphlets:


    Yes, he is a student and profesor of Liberation Theology. He is a very good friend (I wonder why) of the head of the CDF.....

    Thats one of his "masses" Instead of a crucifix, a Mexican Marxist Jєω-loving, fag-supporting teacher.


    in Mexico, blind obedience gives way to reason. It is part of its tradition.
    For many down there, not all, they don't understand or give a hoot about VII, formulas, valid orders etc. It's what the Bishop says, they do.
    This particular bishop stands out because of his avid pro-homo, pro-Jєω, pro-liberation theology masses, groups, psycho priests that are under him.

    But if the traditional mass were restored down there, many would go to it. Again, not because they would recognize the theological differences, but because its the official mass. Period. So pray for the Mexicans. It was once the most traditional Catholic country of the American continent. Now its a cesspool.
     

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    « Reply #12 on: August 29, 2013, 06:48:51 PM »
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  • Which one is the "priest" in the top photo, the one who looks like a cocker spaniel?
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    « Reply #13 on: August 29, 2013, 06:49:32 PM »
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  • This is the group meeting banner:


    Since I can't edit my revious post anymore: It was protesters (plural).



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    « Reply #14 on: August 29, 2013, 06:52:29 PM »
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  • Quote from: Charlemagne
    Which one is the "priest" in the top photo, the one who looks like a cocker spaniel?

    Yup.







    http://reuters.com/photographers-blog/2013/03/15/church-faith-and-rockn-roll/