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Traditional Catholic Faith => General Discussion => Topic started by: amariec on December 19, 2009, 07:41:57 PM
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While praying the rosary we are taught to meditate on the Mystery. I do but often don't know how to keep the focus or even on what thought or images to focus on. What methods do you guys use?
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I use an illustrated brochure that describes the mysteries. I try to keep the image of the one I am praying nearby and if I find my attention wandering, I look at it.
I have misplaced the brochure I was using but it did not include the new series and I don't bother with that, I stick to the joyful, sorrowful & glorious. Here are some links:
http://www.theholyrosary.org/sorrow.html
http://www.theholyrosary.org/joyful.html
http://www.theholyrosary.org/glorious.html
Someday maybe I will be able to keep the image in my mind's eye, but often I seem to have trouble just remembering.
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Does anyone have the list of the virtue we may ask for at each decade?
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Here are links with the Cathinfo code for Amazon sales of Rosary-related items: (I think these will work because I took them afterclicking through the ad on this page. Just to be sure, you should go through that ad at the top of the page to make a purchase)
Beads:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=rosary&x=18&y=11
Books:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_nr_i_1?rh=i%3Astripbooks%2Ck%3Arosary&keywords=rosary&ie=UTF8&qid=1261281676
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I use the method of St. Louis De Montfort in his great book, The Secret of the Rosary. For each Mystery, he gives us a virtue to meditate upon as well as the Mystery Itself. I also made a Power Point presentation with paintings that correspond to each Mystery and sometimes I play it while I am praying the Rosary and that also helps me focus. Other times I keep a Bible handy and I read the passages that go with the Mystery before praying it. It really helps to pause briefly between the decades and reflect for a minute on the Mystery, its accompanying virtue, and how you can better practice that virtue in your own life.
The more you learn about the events described in the Mysteries the more material you have to meditate upon as well. For example, some time ago I listened to an online sermon by a CMRI priest about the comparisons between Joseph the husband of Mary and Joseph the Patriarch, son of Jacob. This gives me ideas for meditation while saying the First two Mysteries, the Incarnation and the Visitation, which both involved Joseph.
(http://www.catholictradition.org./Galleries/calendar71.jpg)
As a matter of fact, here is the page with that same sermon:
http://www.traditionalcatholicsermons.org/index_files/CMRI_Archives.htm
Go down to "In Saints Page." After hearing the sermon I read Genesis 32 to 50 which talks about Jacob and Joseph, and I learned something about Anna, the elderly woman who spent all her time in the temple praying and fasting, and who recognized the Infant Jesus as the Messiah during His Presentation at the Temple. Luke 2:36 identifies her as the "daughter of Phanuel." It turns out in Genesis 32:30 that Phanuel is the name given by Jacob to the place where he wrestled with God: 30 And Jacob called the name of the place Phanuel, saying: I have seen God face to face, and my soul has been saved.
There's still so much to learn! (Like how to post smaller pictures, for example.)
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Does anyone have the list of the virtue we may ask for at each decade?
The following is a list of virtues from the Rosary Album I mentioned above.
Before the first Our Father and three Hail Marys, ask for an increase of Faith, Hope and Charity.
The Five Joyful Mysteries
1. The Annunciation
I desire a love of humility
2. The Visitation
I desire Charity towards my neighbor.
3. The Nativity
I desire the love of God.
4. The Presentation
I desire the spirit of sacrifice.
5. The Finding in the Temple
I desire zeal for the glory of God.
The Five Sorrowful Mysteries
1. The Agony in the Garden
I desire true repentance for my sins.
2. Scourging at the Pillar
I desire a spirit of mortification.
3. The Crowning with Thorns
I desire moral courage.
4. The Carrying of the Cross
I desire the virtue of patience.
5. The Crucifixion
I desire the Grace of Final Perseverance.
The Five Glorious Mysteries
1. The Resurrection
I desire a strong Faith.
2. The Ascension
I desire the virtue of Hope.
3. Descent of the Holy Ghost
I desire zeal for the glory of God.
4. The Assumption
I desire the Grace of a Holy Death.
5. The Coronation
I desire a greater love for the Blessed Virgin Mary
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I have also used the little booklet Rosary Novenas to Our Lady. It has a list of virtues for each decade.
You can purchase it at the following link as well as barnes and noble and other sites. Needless to say, avoid the booklet on the Luminous Mysteries that they advertise with it.
http://www.amazon.com/Rosary-Novenas-Lady-Charles-Lacey/dp/087946173X/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1261287529&sr=1-14
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I use the method of St. Louis De Montfort in his great book, The Secret of the Rosary. For each Mystery, he gives us a virtue to meditate upon as well as the Mystery Itself. I also made a Power Point presentation with paintings that correspond to each Mystery and sometimes I play it while I am praying the Rosary and that also helps me focus. Other times I keep a Bible handy and I read the passages that go with the Mystery before praying it. It really helps to pause briefly between the decades and reflect for a minute on the Mystery, its accompanying virtue, and how you can better practice that virtue in your own life.
The more you learn about the events described in the Mysteries the more material you have to meditate upon as well. For example, some time ago I listened to an online sermon by a CMRI priest about the comparisons between Joseph the husband of Mary and Joseph the Patriarch, son of Jacob. This gives me ideas for meditation while saying the First two Mysteries, the Incarnation and the Visitation, which both involved Joseph.
As a matter of fact, here is the page with that same sermon:
http://www.traditionalcatholicsermons.org/index_files/CMRI_Archives.htm
The Secret of The Rosary is indeed a wonderful book! Thank you for the advice on praying the Rosary and the link to the sermon.
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The Secret of The Rosary is indeed a wonderful book! Thank you for the advice on praying the Rosary and the link to the sermon.
You're welcome. I notice the virtues that St. Louis gives are different from those of the Rosary Album. Really there are so many virtues to be learned in each Mystery that one always has plenty of material for meditation on them.
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While praying the rosary we are taught to meditate on the Mystery. I do but often don't know how to keep the focus or even on what thought or images to focus on. What methods do you guys use?
Gen 9:3 --" even the green herbs have I given you".
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Gen 9:3 --" even the green herbs have I given you".
http://www.drbo.org/chapter/01009.htm
3 And every thing that moveth and liveth shall be meat for you: even as the green herbs have I delivered them all to you:
Quit smoking that stuff and eat it, roscoe, and I'll agree with you.
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As the site knows, I'm not a fan of Pius XII. Well, I was talking to a friend about how it was Pius XII who sainted Louis De Montfort and this friend, who agreed with me on Pius XII, said "At least he did something right."
Amen. The way this man wrote about Mary was exhilarating. Especially when he calls her "A sealed fountain," meaning God gave her more virtues than anyone else but kept them all almost a secret, because she was so humble... It taps into this feeling of incredible power concealed on Earth, but waiting to burst forth in its full splendor in heaven. You can think of this while meditating on the Coronation.
Sad postscript: This friend, an older gentleman very, very sentimentally attached to Fatima, stopped talking to me apparently because I was skeptical of it. I did not try to convert him to my point of view, which I wasn't sure of at the time anyway -- I'm still not absolutely sure -- and actually did everything I could to avoid the topic. I told him, "Hey, as long as you're aware of all the modern heresies, it can't do any harm to believe in Fatima." ( Because Fatima seems like a distraction when you consider how many people obsess over it yet are oblivious to heresy ).
But he kept hammering away. He got belligerent as heck. First he told me to read about it, so I did, partially reading books in English and French on Google ( probably infringing copyright laws, as I now realize, can't do that anymore! ) Then when I compiled a list of contradictions, and mentioned some of them to him, he kept saying "You haven't read about it, you haven't read about it," telling me I had to read Michel de la Sainte-Trinite, a Vatican II dude. Well, I had read him too, though in abridged form.
Keep in mind I am not one of those who is anti-miracle. I believe that it was really Michael the Archangel who appeared to Joan of Arc. I would even say that I am sure of it. It just rings true in many ways that I'll probably describe later, when I get around to writing my louange à Jeanne D'Arc. ( For a while, I never understood Jeanne D'Arc or why God would care about who won in a war between France and England ).
Fatima does not ring true in the same way. It seems like one link in a chain of hoaxes to me, although some will say that perhaps Medjugorje and Garabandal were attempts by the devil to create anti-Fatimas, to reduce the glory of Fatima... However, all of them have contradictions.
Unfortunately, since last talking to this friend, and since learning from St. Thomas that angels cannot confect the Eucharist as we are meant to believe happened at Fatima, which was the clincher -- because, having the brain of a cop or detective, there were already numerous contradictions I'd found in the story -- I am even more skeptical. Now when I say the Rosary I have replaced the Fatima Prayer with "O Divine Heart of Jesus, grant I pray thee, eternal rest to the souls in purgatory," etc.
What did people say after the Glory Be before 1917, before Fatima?
P.S. Roscoe needs to be banned. He is obstinate and unrepentant with his marijuana schtick, which some probably think is harmlessly amusing but is not. If you want to go deal pot, do it somewhere else, rosc.
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Roscoe may think he is praying to Jesus through Mary, but he's only pleasing satan with his prayers.
What did people say after the Gloria? The next mystery, I imagine. That's what I do. As well as using an illustrated brochure, beseeching a particular virtue, and I also dedicate each mystery in supplication for the salvation of a specific group of people.
Many from Cathinfo are thus prayed for every 4th decade (I always pray the Rosary in 5 decade intervals)
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http://cathom.blogspot.com/search/label/Rosary
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Roscoe may think he is praying to Jesus through Mary, but he's only pleasing satan with his prayers.
What did people say after the Gloria? The next mystery, I imagine. That's what I do. As well as using an illustrated brochure, beseeching a particular virtue, and I also dedicate each mystery in supplication for the salvation of a specific group of people.
Many from Cathinfo are thus prayed for every 4th decade (I always pray the Rosary in 5 decade intervals)
If anyone is pleasing satan it is those who claim Pius XI(XII) and XII(XIII) are anti-popes.