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Offline graceseeker

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men go by logic (?), women by emotion?
« on: August 31, 2017, 03:49:32 PM »
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  • that's the stereotype, that's what "men" would have us believe.

    I have known women who were more logical (at least about certain things) than men.. and i have known men who got quite emotional when "their women" left or whatever. So this is a dumb stereotype

    and then there is that saying "Feelings are just feelings" as though we should... what? ignore them? Right. Scott Peterson FELT like getting rid of his wife... he should have examined those feelings a little better b4 acting


    and i could give other examples.. 

    I think it is stupid for men to act like feelings don't matter or that they always defy logic. Feelings have a logic all their own.. and we ignore them at our peril. We should not base all our decisions on feelings alone, but that does not mean feelings are stupid or ignore-worthy or whatever. I mean, get real. I think saying such things as Feelings are just feelings 

    is a way of dismissing people's concerns and issues and problems


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    Re: men go by logic (?), women by emotion?
    « Reply #1 on: August 31, 2017, 04:27:56 PM »
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  • I agree.  Both men and women can be emotional, just in different ways.  The "emotional" men I have met have usually been ruled by their anger, the "emotional" women by their self-pity.  But that's just been my own personal experience.

    The ability to step back from an emotional response and analyze a situation logically is a learned skilled. Little boys and girls both react emotionally when they don't get their own way, but the chances are the girl will cry and the boy will stomp his feet. They must grow up and learn how to deal with their emotions in a positive way.

    Bottom line is we're all human and "the heart has reasons that reason knows nothing of".  This applies to men and women!



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    Re: men go by logic (?), women by emotion?
    « Reply #2 on: August 31, 2017, 04:58:05 PM »
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  • I agree.  Both men and women can be emotional, just in different ways.  The "emotional" men I have met have usually been ruled by their anger, the "emotional" women by their self-pity.  But that's just been my own personal experience.

    The ability to step back from an emotional response and analyze a situation logically is a learned skilled. Little boys and girls both react emotionally when they don't get their own way, but the chances are the girl will cry and the boy will stomp his feet. They must grow up and learn how to deal with their emotions in a positive way.

    Bottom line is we're all human and "the heart has reasons that reason knows nothing of".  This applies to men and women!
    If I remember Biology correctly, it would be more accurate to say that males are biochemically "retarded" in the third(?) trimester, putting up a kind of emotional "flood gate" and also resulting in later emotional development than females on average. 

    So, it isn't so much that men are more logical than that women are "doomed" to think AND feel at the same time. Males, typically, not so much.

    To say that there is neither complementarity, and so difference is to speak against tradition. 

    There ARE differences, and thank God for that and all else. If I'd actually eaten those kittens that time... it would have probably bothered me eventually if a female hadn't started with the waterworks and weird color shifts.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: men go by logic (?), women by emotion?
    « Reply #3 on: August 31, 2017, 05:00:21 PM »
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  • I agree.  Both men and women can be emotional, just in different ways.  The "emotional" men I have met have usually been ruled by their anger, the "emotional" women by their self-pity.  But that's just been my own personal experience.

    The ability to step back from an emotional response and analyze a situation logically is a learned skilled. Little boys and girls both react emotionally when they don't get their own way, but the chances are the girl will cry and the boy will stomp his feet. They must grow up and learn how to deal with their emotions in a positive way.

    Bottom line is we're all human and "the heart has reasons that reason knows nothing of".  This applies to men and women!
    I have learned the hard way that ignoring feelings is bad. but of course you can't share your emotions with just anyone so I share w/ Jesus. sometimes I write out what I am feeling, even if it sounds awful ("I hate so and so") and then tear it up, just to be able to vent. I don't write that line so much anymore b/c I have learned nto to hate... but just saying u should be honest in what u are writing, then tear it up. I don't always tear it up b/c sometimes it's good to look back on stuff... you can learn a lot from that kind of thing. 
    as to learning logic and it being a skill: I have learnd that doing things as Jesus said takes a lot of emotion out of things. For example he said to love others as yourself. If you wait for your emotions to work, wait for them to tell you you "love" someone, you will never love anyone... But if you just do it, well, that is better than "emotional love" or whatever... I mean if someone loves you while in  a state of emotion, when the emotion is gone, so is that person..
    anyway---

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    Re: men go by logic (?), women by emotion?
    « Reply #4 on: August 31, 2017, 05:14:30 PM »
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    that's the stereotype, that's what "men" would have us believe.
    Graceseeker, I'm puzzled. You are categorised here as a male, and yet from your introduction, you are portrayed as female. One thing is certain - you are certainly emotional, being unable to collect your thought in order to finish a sentence. I wonder too if you haven't appeared in different incarnations. Peace be with you, dear Graceseeker.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.


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    Re: men go by logic (?), women by emotion?
    « Reply #5 on: August 31, 2017, 05:20:57 PM »
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  • Graceseeker, I'm puzzled. You are categorised here as a male, and yet from your introduction, you are portrayed as female. One thing is certain - you are certainly emotional, being unable to collect your thought in order to finish a sentence. I wonder too if you haven't appeared in different incarnations. Peace be with you, dear Graceseeker.
    The OP is not the sort of thing a man would post, usually. Men don't get emotional about things like this.
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    Re: men go by logic (?), women by emotion?
    « Reply #6 on: August 31, 2017, 05:26:24 PM »
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  • As I understand it, it isn't all or nothing, it is a matter of degrees.  In other words, a women lives from her heart, a man lives from his head.  So, a women's priority is by necessity, her feelings, because until those are resolved, she's not comfortable.  While a man's priority, is by necessity, his thinking, because until that is resolved, he's not comfortable.  They both think and feel, but they do not have the same priorities.  This is supposed to be complementary, but that of course requires starving vice and feeding virtue.  It requires reason and a desire to do what's right.  Otherwise, this can only lead to war.  

    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."

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    Re: men go by logic (?), women by emotion?
    « Reply #7 on: August 31, 2017, 05:27:58 PM »
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  • Also, for example, in "2+2 = x", no one solves for x with their feelings.

    They might guess, or perhaps sense for x, but they aren't "doing maths" at that point. 
    "Lord, have mercy".


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    « Reply #8 on: August 31, 2017, 05:29:25 PM »
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  • As I understand it, it isn't all or nothing, it is a matter of degrees.  In other words, a women lives from her heart, a man lives from his head.  So, a women's priority is by necessity, her feelings, because until those are resolved, she's not comfortable.  While a man's priority, is by necessity, his thinking, because until that is resolved, he's not comfortable.  They both think and feel, but they do not have the same priorities.  This is supposed to be complementary, but that of course requires starving vice and feeding virtue.  It requires reason and a desire to do what's right.  Otherwise, this can only lead to war. 
    Where were you four women ago? Fat lotta good that did...

    j/k

    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: men go by logic (?), women by emotion?
    « Reply #9 on: August 31, 2017, 06:04:33 PM »
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  • As I understand it, it isn't all or nothing, it is a matter of degrees.  In other words, a women lives from her heart, a man lives from his head.  So, a women's priority is by necessity, her feelings, because until those are resolved, she's not comfortable.  While a man's priority, is by necessity, his thinking, because until that is resolved, he's not comfortable.  They both think and feel, but they do not have the same priorities.  This is supposed to be complementary, but that of course requires starving vice and feeding virtue.  It requires reason and a desire to do what's right.  Otherwise, this can only lead to war.  
    God made woman more emotional (maybe intuitive is a better word) to help her fulfill better her role of motherhood and to be the heart of the home. Man He made more logical  to help him in his important role of leadership. 

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    Re: men go by logic (?), women by emotion?
    « Reply #10 on: September 01, 2017, 12:58:30 AM »
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  • Where were you four women ago? Fat lotta good that did...

    j/k
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    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."


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    Re: men go by logic (?), women by emotion?
    « Reply #11 on: September 01, 2017, 01:05:46 AM »
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  • God made woman more emotional (maybe intuitive is a better word) to help her fulfill better her role of motherhood and to be the heart of the home. Man He made more logical  to help him in his important role of leadership.
    Yeah and depriving men of a family wage has destablized that.  So, I think, it's much more challenging today, then it used to be.  
    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."

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    Re: men go by logic (?), women by emotion?
    « Reply #12 on: September 01, 2017, 10:37:17 AM »
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  • Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    Re: men go by logic (?), women by emotion?
    « Reply #13 on: September 01, 2017, 11:39:38 AM »
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  • I would say that it's easier for men to reason according to logic in a properly ordered way. 

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    « Reply #14 on: September 15, 2017, 03:49:12 PM »
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  • St. Thomas Aquinas says in several places (e.g., here) that women have a defect of reason (defectu rationis).
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