Author Topic: maybe things not all bad w sspx they tried to give Priebke a funeral (Read 1165 times)

clarkaim · « **on:** October 15, 2013, 06:03:25 PM »

Until the lawyer called it off as the Italian police would not let anyone in. Well some are willing to stand up for truth and give a dead guy a funeral. If you can't laugh at Hitler, I'll laugh with Hitler.

poche · « **Reply #1 on:** October 16, 2013, 02:43:16 AM »

What does it mean to be a "notorious sinner?" Here was a person who did bad things, but in his later hears regularly went to confession to a Catholic priest and recieved absolution. Now he is being denied a Catholic burial. Why did the Catholic priest give him absolution and then later on deny him a Catholic funeral?

"The Rome Vicariate, which overseas churches in the city and province, promptly announced in a statement soon after his death that no public funeral would be granted to him in the city or outskirts of Rome. Officials cited canon law which states that a funeral may be denied to "manifest sinners who cannot be granted ecclesiastical funerals without public scandal of the faithful."

Priebke's lawyer released statements saying that "a large part of the Italian people are concerned that religious rites be refused to a dead person" and said he would hold the funeral in the street if no church would allow the funeral.

"Priebke", he said "received confession regularly and was absolved by the clergy."

http://gma.yahoo.com/notorious-nαzι-...opstories.html

clare · « **Reply #2 on:** October 16, 2013, 03:30:01 AM »

Who am I to judge?

poche · « **Reply #3 on:** October 16, 2013, 04:40:11 AM »

The question I have is different than whether a nαzι veteran of World War II should have a Catholic burial. It is what constitutes notorious sin? How can someone die after recieving absolution from the Catholic Church be refered to as such a notarious sinner that he cannot have a Catholic funeral?

Matthew · « **Reply #4 on:** October 16, 2013, 08:15:59 AM »

Ridiculous!

So now being a nαzι is the "one unforgivable sin". It doesn't matter if you're a Catholic in good standing.

That is NOT Catholic teaching.

Catholic doctrine is that a "notorious sinner" or "public sinner" is someone who has committed public sins, who has not yet repented or is not in good standing with the Church.

You can tell who's in charge of the Conciliar Church, when you look at the laws that have been penciled in the books, like "nαzιs can never be considered forgiven"

And some people have the STUPIDITY to attack +Williamson for his knowledge about the Jєωs and their cօռspιʀαcιҽs! The Jєωιѕн plan and activities are obvious, at least to me.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #5 on:** October 16, 2013, 12:17:42 PM »

Perhaps having been a nαzι is the one sin against the Holy Spirit that can't be forgiven.

SoldierOfChrist · « **Reply #6 on:** October 16, 2013, 01:16:42 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Ridiculous!

So now being a nαzι is the "one unforgivable sin". It doesn't matter if you're a Catholic in good standing.

That is NOT Catholic teaching.

Catholic doctrine is that a "notorious sinner" or "public sinner" is someone who has committed public sins, who has not yet repented or is not in good standing with the Church.

You can tell who's in charge of the Conciliar Church, when you look at the laws that have been penciled in the books, like "nαzιs can never be considered forgiven"

And some people have the STUPIDITY to attack +Williamson for his knowledge about the Jєωs and their cօռspιʀαcιҽs! The Jєωιѕн plan and activities are obvious, at least to me.

The Jєωιѕн conspiracy is so obvious that it makes me sick. The degree of self-delusion that people are under these days is astounding. You can compile a very long list of statements from U.S. presidents and other political leaders, dating back to George Washington, and continuing on to JFK, which state unequivocally that there is an invisible government, conspiring against the official gov't and the people. But that's not enough for most people. You can give them the protocols to read, but that's not enough. You can point out that building 7 came down because of an office fire melting the steel girders, but they take it at face value. I could go on and on. The conspiracy is so incredibly obvious. I don't understand the logic of the ordinary people who self-delude and tow the line. Is it all just to avoid ostracization?