Author Topic: Maximilian Krah Implies Legal Action Against IA, Again (Read 8488 times)

Augstine Baker · « **on:** August 04, 2011, 02:43:13 AM »

Sent from Maximilian Krah:

It is absolutely fine when there are discussions about the Williamson trial on Ignis Ardens, including my witness, which I gave on request of the defence and to their full satisfaction. Anyway, I kindly ask you for deleting such comments which once again refer to so-called 'krahgate' or are simply aggressive against me. A serious part of statements in the discussion on the 'Bishop Williamson Appeal' is a 'krahgate' revival. There was a clear statement by Fr Morgan about it, and I hope you will accept and enforce it. As shown with the sedisvacantist virgo-maria.org page, the SSPX is not accepting such slanderous campagns in the web any longer. A page like IA which states its SSPX-friendship must not take part in such campagns. It is, for example, hard to understand when a declared atheist like Lady Renouf is alowed to blame the chosen authority of the SSPX, Bishop Fellay. All this happens under your responsibility.

So please delete all 'Krahgate'-related comments in the 'BW appeal' thread.

If you have any further questions, please don't hesistiate to email me: [edit] - it is definitly better to speak with somebody instead speaking about him, isn't it? We are both Catholics and SSPX-faithful und should be able to handle this issue without the hepl of a secular judge.

Sincerely yours,

MK

PS: When reading the hate-inspired comments of persons like 'Ethelred' (whose German comments were published under names like 'Leon' and 'Carl') you should see that those who blame me not honourable men, to say the least.

http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=7661

Pyrrhos · « **Reply #1 on:** August 04, 2011, 10:41:54 AM »

Judaizers collaborating with satanic states in order to take legal actions against Catholic priests and laity...well, no further comment necessary.

Dear Mr. K., for your own sake, please consider not to spend too much time with legal procedures, it might lengthen your own process at the most Supreme Court.

Augstine Baker · « **Reply #2 on:** August 04, 2011, 10:44:17 AM »

Patricius wrote an 'Open Letter to Maximilian Krah':

Open Letter to Maximilian Krah.

Max,

I am aware of the contents of the PM you sent an Admin earlier today. That admin has now resigned.

The PM is a thinly veiled threat towards this forum, and one too many. This is a Traditional Catholic discussion forum. People are free, and entitled to air their views and opinions on topics discussed.

If you don't like what you read, then don't give people ammunition. If you wish to threaten us, that's fine, but don't think I will take such threats, veiled or otherwise, lying down. I don't respond well to bullying, and I won't be bullied by you.

As I said, enough is enough!

Patrick.

Ethelred · « **Reply #3 on:** August 04, 2011, 10:57:50 AM »

Thanks Augustine, for forwarding Krah's threat, to the Cathinfo folks.

Is it a doubtful award to be attacked namely by the modernist and Zionist Krah. Well, since he kind of bewitches many of the folks over there in the English censoring forum Ignis Ardens, and even bewitches a few on Cathinfo (see thumbs down for combating him), and that is something I experience with many SSPX folks, there's usually not much an opponent of him can do directly.
The Zionist Krah has got the entire SSPX leadership behind him. So we Krah opponents are the SSPX Gothamist and fight a losing battle, humanly speaking. Yet Almighty God will still have the last word.

I just say one thing now: If a reader wants to see some "hate-inspired comments" of a non "honourable man", he would best take a look at Krah's very owns words. They speak volumes.

There are some sources:

a) Unfortunately the very best source is private. But maybe you know a "Mr Q" (© by Hollingsworth) who privately shares with you this vicious but meaningful English letter written by Krah and Fr Pfluger to Bishop Williamson on 1 January, 2011, which John Grace already mentioned here on Cathinfo. I guarantee, this letter leaves nothing to be desired!

b) A public but much more tiring source is scanning Krah's usually dull German postings on the Internet, for example under his nicknames
- Pius XII
and formerly
- MK28

Google-translated into "I, Robot"-English :
- Pius XII
- MK28

(Oh, I see, this robot stops to translate after some pages... Sorry, maybe another robot is better?)

Please use your Browser's search function Ctrl-F with the keyword "Williamson" to find those posts of Krah (not the website's headings) which contain public insults and slanders against the roman-catholic Bishop Williamson, going for years. Also please note that Krah ate boiled crow for a while, when he took some flack by the initial Krahgate exposure.

P.S. Matthew, will Krah be able to threaten Cathinfo, too?

wallflower · « **Reply #4 on:** August 04, 2011, 12:20:39 PM »

Quote from: Augstine Baker

Sent from Maximilian Krah:

It is absolutely fine when there are discussions about the Williamson trial on Ignis Ardens, including my witness, which I gave on request of the defence and to their full satisfaction. Anyway, I kindly ask you for deleting such comments which once again refer to so-called 'krahgate' or are simply aggressive against me. A serious part of statements in the discussion on the 'Bishop Williamson Appeal' is a 'krahgate' revival.

Ok so discussion is not the issue, twisting the use of his name and aggression against him are the issues. I was under the impression that the subject itself was being oppressed. I can understand that. I hate it when certain people on other forums do that to demean their opponents and wouldn't appreciate it done to me. Like him or not, it's a reasonable request, I would probably do the same, although veiling threats is really not endearing to put it mildly. You'd think he has more to worry about than bothering with Clare. As a Catholic perhaps he can offer up the ignominy just like I'm sure Bishop Williamson is doing.

There are certainly aspects to this that are worthy of uneasiness but my main concern in all of it is for Bishop Williamson, that he's at peace, well taken care of, treated with the respect he deserves and becoming stronger rather than broken by all of this. No one said being an SSPX bishop would be easy, but he's getting on in years and while we're all dreaming of the Golden Years he probably won't have a moment's peace until he goes to his heavenly reward. There's an injustice about it all.

JPaul · « **Reply #5 on:** August 04, 2011, 01:48:43 PM »

The actions of the lawyer and his employers have done more than derail a few threads, they have literally changed the character of that forum, and frightened others who must wonder will I be next, if I say x or y. Many well informed and astute members have left or stopped posting and the once broad scope of discussions, is becoming narrowed down and changing into what is allowed what is not. Since the original "affair", through the Vatican and the media, down through the Society's leaders and laywers, and into Catholic forums which have been threatened and infiltrated, we see the domination of international Jєωιѕн power and its corrupting influence.

Those who should be our Captains in the struggle to resist this assault upon the Holy Religion, have instead become our persecutors and collaborators with the Babylonian cult.

"Put not your trust in princes"

Elizabeth · « **Reply #6 on:** August 04, 2011, 10:33:14 PM »

Quote from: Ethelred

Thanks Augustine, for forwarding Krah's threat, to the Cathinfo folks.

Is it a doubtful award to be attacked namely by the modernist and Zionist Krah. Well, since he kind of bewitches many of the folks over there in the English censoring forum Ignis Ardens, and even bewitches a few on Cathinfo (see thumbs down for combating him), and that is something I experience with many SSPX folks, there's usually not much an opponent of him can do directly.
The Zionist Krah has got the entire SSPX leadership behind him. So we Krah opponents are the SSPX Gothamist and fight a losing battle, humanly speaking. Yet Almighty God will still have the last word.

I just say one thing now: If a reader wants to see some "hate-inspired comments" of a non "honourable man", he would best take a look at Krah's very owns words. They speak volumes.

There are some sources:

a) Unfortunately the very best source is private. But maybe you know a "Mr Q" (© by Hollingsworth) who privately shares with you this vicious but meaningful English letter written by Krah and Fr Pfluger to Bishop Williamson on 1 January, 2011, which John Grace already mentioned here on Cathinfo. I guarantee, this letter leaves nothing to be desired!

b) A public but much more tiring source is scanning Krah's usually dull German postings on the Internet, for example under his nicknames
- Pius XII
and formerly
- MK28

Google-translated into "I, Robot"-English :
- Pius XII
- MK28

(Oh, I see, this robot stops to translate after some pages... Sorry, maybe another robot is better?)

Please use your Browser's search function Ctrl-F with the keyword "Williamson" to find those posts of Krah (not the website's headings) which contain public insults and slanders against the roman-catholic Bishop Williamson, going for years. Also please note that Krah ate boiled crow for a while, when he took some flack by the initial Krahgate exposure.

P.S. Matthew, will Krah be able to threaten Cathinfo, too?

I think someone should put the stuff up here, with proof of its source.

I wouldn't know how to go looking for robots--but I see bullying and we need to protect our friends.

Ethelred · « **Reply #7 on:** August 05, 2011, 01:35:12 PM »

Quote from: Elizabeth

I think someone should put the stuff up here, with proof of its source.

I wouldn't know how to go looking for robots--but I see bullying and we need to protect our friends.

Protecting our good catholic Bishop, that's what the Krahgate authors, translators and distributors basically try to do for a long time, I think. I say blessings from God to them!
Unfortunately they're now being persecuted by the SSPX leadership and their lawyer Max Krah.

Elizabeth, did you already see Max Krah's bullying words about the honest Bishop Williamson during Krah's testominy at the "Bishop Williamson Appeal" in July 2011 ?

Nemmersdorf quoted an English translation of two German newspapers reporting about the show trial and this testimony, and my dear Hollingsworth put together a nice summary. Please see the thread Bishop Williamson's Appeal here.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #8 on:** August 05, 2011, 01:48:49 PM »

These tool-bags will, like all the others, undo themselves (which doesn't mean we shouldn't do all we can to assist them). None of them seems to grasp the lateness of the hour nor the unalterable direction and rapidly-increasing potency of the ongoing process.

I want to thank all of the soon-to-be-removed scuм for being such clueless and cowardly pieces of work, using now-impotent and utterly-predictable tactics in a game that has completely changed right before their own, blind eyes. They're already reaping it; they will continue to reap it until they choke on it and beg for mercy which will not be granted -- this is true of all who have abused their authority in recent years.

IOW, stick a fork in this one; he's done (he just hasn't grasped it yet).

Elizabeth · « **Reply #9 on:** August 05, 2011, 04:12:00 PM »

Hi Ethelred, I know the XXXX that Krah has said in court. I am interested in what he has been writing in forums. I guess it would involve a lot of translation.

I also wonder who the poster was at IA AC(something) threatening people. :ape:

This is a very creepy and confusing situation. There are a lot of people involved and some have personal agendas as well as altruistic ones.

Ethelred · « **Reply #10 on:** August 06, 2011, 01:06:27 PM »

Quote from: Elizabeth

Hi Ethelred, I know the XXXX that Krah has said in court.

Very well. :-)

Quote

I am interested in what he has been writing in forums. I guess it would involve a lot of translation.

Yes indeed. Some friends and me have had the doubtful pleasure to read his XXXX in our native language for years now. We know him well.

He regularly defames Bishop Williamson and other people. If Krah was the one being defamed, he would sue him(self) for "slander and calumny". See my next post please.

Quote

I also wonder who the poster was at IA AC(something) threatening people. :ape:

This is a very creepy and confusing situation. There are a lot of people involved and some have personal agendas as well as altruistic ones.

Indeed.
Krah himself was and still is threatening people publicly and privately. He also scans the Cathinfo forum, of course, and any other place he's been mentioned.
Those who oppose Krah have to be very careful. He's a bloodhound, and certainly he behaves like a Jєω.

He's being paid by the SSPX, which materially lives on the donations we SSPX laity donate. So, in the end we actually pay Krah who's slandering and calumniating our own Bishop Williamson. That is not right. May God punish the bad guys, soon!

Ethelred · « **Reply #11 on:** August 06, 2011, 01:08:48 PM »

On another forum our Hollingsworth posted the following.

Quote from: Hollingsworth on 6 August 2011, 16:30 CET

Since reference has been made in a recent post to the "gracious" Dr. Kroak, I think it might be helpful to publish a PM he (or someone else) sent to me yesterday Aug. 5. We need to understand the exact parameters of this man's alleged graciousness.

Dear Mr. Moore,

my New York attorney asked me for your detailed postal address, as he needs it for sueing you for slander and calumny. I only know you are living in Post Falls. May I kindly ask you to send me the correct address? It would save costs, which, at the end, you will have to pay. More, I think it is the much better and honest way to discuss the issues you are talking about from man to man, eye to eye, under the neutral chair of a jugde.

So, I´m awaiting your answer. I will be in NYC next week - next block week at Columbia Business School - and there going to speak about the case with my American colleague and prepare everything. Your postings here on IA as well as on Cathinfo are enough for a nice claim. My personal favourite is the "rat" which you called me, but it isn´t the most severe.

Sincerely!

"He who shall remain nameless"

Since a few days the word-filter of that another forum replaces any occurrences of "Krah" with "He who shall remain nameless".

wallflower · « **Reply #12 on:** August 06, 2011, 01:18:05 PM »

Wow, disgusting.

As I said before he should simply offer it up, as I'm sure Bishop Williamson is doing.

No lack for irony there.

John Grace · « **Reply #13 on:** August 06, 2011, 01:22:56 PM »

Quote from: Ethelred

On another forum our Hollingsworth posted the following.

Quote from: Hollingsworth on 6 August 2011, 16:30 CET
Since reference has been made in a recent post to the "gracious" Dr. Kroak, I think it might be helpful to publish a PM he (or someone else) sent to me yesterday Aug. 5. We need to understand the exact parameters of this man's alleged graciousness.

Dear Mr. Moore,

my New York attorney asked me for your detailed postal address, as he needs it for sueing you for slander and calumny. I only know you are living in Post Falls. May I kindly ask you to send me the correct address? It would save costs, which, at the end, you will have to pay. More, I think it is the much better and honest way to discuss the issues you are talking about from man to man, eye to eye, under the neutral chair of a jugde.

So, I´m awaiting your answer. I will be in NYC next week - next block week at Columbia Business School - and there going to speak about the case with my American colleague and prepare everything. Your postings here on IA as well as on Cathinfo are enough for a nice claim. My personal favourite is the "rat" which you called me, but it isn´t the most severe.

Sincerely!

"He who shall remain nameless"

Since a few days the word-filter of that another forum replaces any occurrences of "Krah" with "He who shall remain nameless".

Be assured of my support Mr Moore and don't be intimidated and stand firm.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #14 on:** August 06, 2011, 02:06:10 PM »

I believe, unless these people turn things around, we're witnessing the final dissolution of Bishop Fellay's SSPX. Their moral credibility will never recover from this. They are headed for ruin.