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Offline Motorede

Re: matthew 27:52 trying to convert friend
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2019, 08:44:03 PM »
Quote from: apollo on June 08, 2019, 08:28:22 PM
The Church Of The Bible by Fr. Arnold Damen

The One True Church by Fr. Arnold Damen

Quite often Protestants will reject anything a Catholic priest says.
They stubbornly persist in the idea that everything they need to
know is in the Bible.  That is why quoting from the Bible is useful.

Of course, they always say something like, "That is figurative speech",
when they don't like it.  

Then what you are left with is to say, "Protestants create their own
religion by deciding what is figurative and what is literal."  They are
deciding, not God.  

Conclusion.  The Word of God is subject to their interpretation of it.
This is not divine faith, this is human faith (more intellectual pride
than anything else, pride and rebellion).
I am aware of that. My purpose in telling you about this sermon was for you to use his arguments-- not to give the sermon to them. I have found his logic most effective. Hope you do,too.
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Offline apollo

Re: matthew 27:52 trying to convert friend
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2019, 08:57:30 PM »
Quote from: Motorede on June 08, 2019, 08:44:03 PM
I am aware of that. My purpose in telling you about this sermon was for you to use his arguments-- not to give the sermon to them. I have found his logic most effective. Hope you do,too.
OK, but you did not give any links to Fr. Damen's articles.
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Offline Motorede

Re: matthew 27:52 trying to convert friend
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2019, 09:06:50 PM »
Quote from: apollo on June 08, 2019, 08:57:30 PM
OK, but you did not give any links to Fr. Damen's articles.
I mentioned that they were most likely in this forum's library. I thought I remembered seeing someone put them there a few years ago. The Church or the Bible is the title.
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Offline apollo

Re: matthew 27:52 trying to convert friend
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2019, 09:21:10 PM »
Quote from: Motorede on June 08, 2019, 09:06:50 PM
I mentioned that they were most likely in this forum's library. I thought I remembered seeing someone put them there a few years ago. The Church or the Bible is the title.
If you go back and read my reply, you will see that I have provided two links to his articles.
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Offline forlorn

Re: matthew 27:52 trying to convert friend
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2019, 04:49:31 AM »
There's no arguing when the opposition is willing to handwave any verse away as a metaphor, an "illustration", or even "apocryphal" as some soul-sleepers have. 

Although there is one thing you could point out: The Protestant's whole spiel was about how Jesus came to show us what resurrection/eternal life would look like, and that ours would look like His. Yet Jesus did not go to soul-sleep or any of that, He descended into Hades. So by the protestant's logic, if our resurrection is like Christ's, we would not go to soul-sleep or have our souls die, but we'd descend into Hell. Thus proving that the protestant's beliefs are actually contradicted by his own logic, therefore making his position that our resurrection/afterlife must resemble Christ's completely untenable. 
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