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Mass of the Roman Rite given nihil obstat imprimatur
« on: January 25, 2016, 10:37:30 PM »
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  • This book was published in 1950. The nihil obstat is a declaration that any book bearing it has no "doctrinal or moral error", and yet this book is filled with destructive, antiquarian and erroneous ideas about the Mass and as a whole is Modernist.

    How in the world did it get approved?


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    Mass of the Roman Rite given nihil obstat imprimatur
    « Reply #1 on: January 25, 2016, 10:56:19 PM »
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  • A little more information would help such as the exact title, author, publication date and so on. Also, a few examples that would illustrate the problems you found and your reason for believing they are erroneous would be helpful.


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    Mass of the Roman Rite given nihil obstat imprimatur
    « Reply #2 on: January 25, 2016, 11:56:56 PM »
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  • Of the three things you asked, the only thing I didn't give was the author, because I thought it would already be known.

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    Mass of the Roman Rite given nihil obstat imprimatur
    « Reply #3 on: January 26, 2016, 12:11:48 AM »
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  • Perhaps because the heresy of Modernism had already entered the Church long before the Vatican II Council. Probably during the second part of the XIX century. Not for anything, Pope St. Pius X wrote his excellent encyclical "the Oath Against Modernism" in 1910, and his precedent Pope Pius IX, the "Syllabus of Errors" in 1864. Liberalism was already rampant in the hierarchy in the 50's.

    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    Mass of the Roman Rite given nihil obstat imprimatur
    « Reply #4 on: January 26, 2016, 12:18:37 AM »
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    Of the three things you asked, the only thing I didn't give was the author, because I thought it would already be known.


    OK, how about some of those propositions that you consider heretical?

    Or would you just rather we read the whole thing and guess at what you are talking about?


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    Mass of the Roman Rite given nihil obstat imprimatur
    « Reply #5 on: January 26, 2016, 12:38:48 AM »
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  • Sorry, it just became clear that you were referring to the slimy Jesuit Jungman's book.  He was obviously very instrumental in bringing forth the Novus Ordo.

    Cardinal Spellman is the imprimatur.  :jester:

    How did this get published and authorized? Cantarella is correct. The sewer lid was already off, and waiting for more fools  to fall in.

    I hope you didn't read both volumes to find this out.


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    Mass of the Roman Rite given nihil obstat imprimatur
    « Reply #6 on: January 26, 2016, 05:51:30 PM »
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  • The Book, "Church and state in Czechoslovakia by Ludvik Nemec Oct. 1954 Imprimatur of Spellman stated the imprimatur was stolen?  If I can locate the page I will bring more info.  It happened during 1940's under Pope Pius XII.

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    Mass of the Roman Rite given nihil obstat imprimatur
    « Reply #7 on: January 26, 2016, 09:09:12 PM »
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  • Ok, page 300 under the chapter "Calvary of the Catholic Church."  "The distribution of this pastoral letter(Prague, June 15 1949) was a remarkable achievement, sinice the bishops' consistory offices remained in occupation of government secret police and officials, who were using their seals and their stationery freely, so that, as one pastor explains, the very imprimatur on any new publications must be regarded wit suspicion as possibly a forgery. Foot note which I am not sure what it is referring to (CIC, canon 329, 335)

    This book is very explicit.  Deep explanation of all the take over of Czechoslovakia.  Mercy, Russia just took her, a complete take over!  Not to mention all the murders, labor camps, take over of all land and in this case all literature.


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    « Reply #8 on: January 26, 2016, 09:38:01 PM »
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  • Quote from: Lighthouse

    Sorry, it just became clear that you were referring to the slimy Jesuit Jungman's book.  He was obviously very instrumental in bringing forth the Novus Ordo.

    Cardinal Spellman is the imprimatur.  :jester:

    How did this get published and authorized? Cantarella is correct. The sewer lid was already off, and waiting for more fools to fall in.

    I hope you didn't read both volumes to find this out.


    Jungman --- eeeeeww!   :barf:

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